Scherzer/Zimmerman

[TL1961]

We have no need for Desmond, even with Castro gone.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

We have no need for Desmond, even with Castro gone.

He's a free agent at the end of the year. If they're getting Castro they'd want to move him. He'd just be deal grease and again this is just some dude's specualtion.

 

[chibears55]

Here we go trading Castro again. .lol

Kid been traded more times on this board then the Cubs probably got actual offers for him..

 

[brett05]

It's not necessarily "horrific" but there's also a reason it's not common. There's good reason things are usually paid for while they're being used.

If Scherzer can be good the next 7 years, then it's helpful the next 7 years and harmful the following 7 years after that.

$10 million is still significant money 8 years from now and it will be counting against whatever the Nats are willing to spend, while getting nothing back from it. It will be a factor. I've hated seeing the Cubs pay for players not on their team, yet having it count against what they're willing to spend.

The only reason to drag out spending money is because you can't afford something, and how well does that usually end?

I think it is rare because most put self ahead of team.

For frame of reference, $10 million is Jason Hammels.

 

[brett05]

Castro and a top 5 for Desmond/Strasburg.

I'm not so sure they won't want more (WAS that is wanting more)

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Here we go trading Castro again. .lol

Kid been traded more times on this board then the Cubs probably got actual offers for him..

I have no desire to trade Castro but if the Cubs wanted Strasburg, which I honestly don't think they'll get involved in, that's who they'd want. They traded for a young SS from San Diego but he's at least 2 years away and they lose Desmond after this year. My feeling is that they are going to trade Strasburg but St. Louis and Boston are much more likely landing spots.

Trust me though they get offers for him every single day. 24 year old SS, three time All Star on a team friendly contract through 2019? Yeah, every day.

 

[SilenceS]

I have no desire to trade Castro but if the Cubs wanted Strasburg, which I honestly don't think they'll get involved in, that's who they'd want. They traded for a young SS from San Diego but he's at least 2 years away and they lose Desmond after this year. My feeling is that they are going to trade Strasburg but St. Louis and Boston are much more likely landing spots.

Trust me though they get offers for him every single day. 24 year old SS, three time All Star on a team friendly contract through 2019? Yeah, every day.

It's funny. I showed a quote from Peter gammons that said that Cubs would only entertain castro trade if they were offered a shit ton . He said the only people that doesn't hold castro in high regard in this league are Cubs fans. Maybe that's why the players voted him in the all star game. Maybe the league may know a little more then some message board heroes


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[TC in Mississippi]

It's funny. I showed a quote from Peter gammons that said that Cubs would only entertain castro trade if they were offered a shit ton . He said the only people that doesn't hold castro in high regard in this league are Cubs fans. Maybe that's why the players voted him in the all star game. Maybe the league may know a little more then some message board heroes


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it's absolutely goofy why he's held in such low regard by Cubs fans. He's not even 25 years old and he's been to 3 All Star games!!!! Not to mention the below market contract. Other teams drool over this kid.

 

[brett05]

Can we stop over-hyping AS appearances?

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Can we stop over-hyping AS appearances?

I actually usually don't but 3 AS appearances by your 24th birthday is impressive.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Can we stop over-hyping AS appearances?

Over-hyping AS appearances is something you would consider for a LaHair type player. Castro? He deserves the accolades. He's a terrific young player.

 

[brett05]

Over-hyping AS appearances is something you would consider for a LaHair type player. Castro? He deserves the accolades. He's a terrific young player.

He's a good young player compared to his contemporaries of which his 2nd AS appearance was as a replacement.

 

[Parade_Rain]

He's a good young player compared to his contemporaries of which his 2nd AS appearance was as a replacement.

You don't respect the game. You have no idea what an AS appearance actually means.

 

[brett05]

You don't respect the game. You have no idea what an AS appearance actually means.

I know what it means and I do respect the game. But smearing seems to be in your character right now, so I'll pass on your challenge.

 

[Parade_Rain]

I know what it means and I do respect the game. But smearing seems to be in your character right now, so I'll pass on your challenge.

Your lack of appreciation for how hard the best of the best work is troubling and a 23 year old having 3 AS appearances is better than good.

 

[brett05]

Your lack of appreciation for how hard the best of the best work is troubling and a 23 year old having 3 AS appearances is better than good.

I appreciate all of that. No one is going to confuse at this point of Castro being a hard worker. You totally undervalue the weakness of the position right now. Castro is good. And I think if someone took the time to compare AS SS it would pan out as good. He's a Solid B guy and there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[Parade_Rain]

I appreciate all of that. No one is going to confuse at this point of Castro being a hard worker. You totally undervalue the weakness of the position right now. Castro is good. And I think if someone took the time to compare AS SS it would pan out as good. He's a Solid B guy and there is nothing wrong with that.

If I showed your postings here to some of my MLB associates they would be greatly amused.

 

[brett05]

If I showed your postings here to some of my MLB associates they would be greatly amused.

You keep talking about the folks you know, talk to, etc....What do you do to have such contacts?

 

[TL1961]

Castro is a good hitter at a premium position. His D is not as good as some, but better than he gets credit for.

They were discussing Castro and shortstops on MLB the other day. (Russo, the New Yorker) They had a list of the Top 10 SS selcteby some publication, and the host was questioning why Castro wasn't there, and essentially said he would choose him over just about anyone else on the list after Tulo, and the co-host agreed except on Reyes of all people.

Russo was singling them out by name, and asking the co-host "Would you really take "X" over Castro?" in a way that indicated that not only would he select Castro, but found it inconceivable someone might not. Right down (or up) to Peralta, who for some reason is rated high. Average D, average bat. Big salary. But plays for Cards, so highly rated.

Now I don't put Russo's opinion above any other pundit, but was pointing out that clearly there are people not in Chicago or tied to the club that value Castro.

I know a lot of it has to do with when you get called up, but the kid has 850 hits at age 24. he had an OPS of .777 at the SS position. He is valuable!

 

[SilenceS]

He's a good young player compared to his contemporaries of which his 2nd AS appearance was as a replacement.

When was he a replacement?


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