Scottie Pippen vs. Hawks (1994)

[Glide2keva]

39 points, 10 assists, 9 steals, 6 rebounds

[video=youtube;RRR9VnOO0xU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRR9VnOO0xU[/video]

 

[ChicagoDawg1991]

This was the last year at the Original Madhouse too huh?
Man he was a great player

 

[scottiepippen1994]

39 points, 10 assists, 9 steals, 6 rebounds

[video=youtube;RRR9VnOO0xU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRR9VnOO0xU[/video]

I have this game still on VHS. Also converted to DVD....The Hawks were actually the favorite to win the East in 94.
Its nice how Chicago destroyed them and blew them out.......It certainly helped having a true alpha dog like Scottie Pippen on the Bulls.
That was a great game, plus if I remeber correctly, the Bulls made a new record for most 3 pointers for a Bulls team in a single game....That was quite a show Pippen put on. :beerbang:

 

[Nillz of The Bulls Show]

Always amazes me how skeptics claim Pippen was nothing without Jordan. How do you discount finishing third in MVP voting this season only behind David Robinson & Hakeem Olajuwon.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Actually Pippen was tied for second in MVP voting if I'm not mistaken.
Plus Pippen was also ranked high in MVP voting in 1995 as well.
Pippen was an alphadog type franchise player without Jordan without a question.
It also baffles me how certain so called Bulls fans on this forum try to undermind and discredit Pippen and his greatness.
If not for a stupid call by Hue Hollins, Pippen very much could be showing off 7 rings to Jordans 6....oh yeah, and I forgot 2000 Portland....maybe 8 rings..........oh wait, if not for Barkleys greed and poor attitiude, Pip could of got a ring in Houston too......9 rings?

Bottom line is Pippen is and always will be a WINNER...

 

[Diddy1122]

Always amazes me how skeptics claim Pippen was nothing without Jordan. How do you discount finishing third in MVP voting this season only behind David Robinson & Hakeem Olajuwon.

It's not that Pippen was nothing without Jordan, it's that Pippen WOULD HAVE been nothing like he was without Jordan constantly pushing him in practice (& often after practice) to be great. That doesn't mean I think Pip would have completely sucked without MJ, but I don't think he ever would have become one of the 50 greatest players of all time if he wasn't traded from Seattle.

 

[Daa Bearrs]

Holy shit I think I was at that game! How many games did the Bulls play the hawks that year at old Chicago Stadium? Was it two? Because I know I was at one of them and I remember we blew them out. If so, this was the first Bulls game I ever went to (and the only game I ever went to at old Chicago stadium). I was 9 years old at the time.

 

[Crystallas]

Video like this, is why I wish more of us that archived games for our own collections, used super betamax.

 

[WC Jerome]

Actually Pippen was tied for second in MVP voting if I'm not mistaken.
Plus Pippen was also ranked high in MVP voting in 1995 as well.
Pippen was an alphadog type franchise player without Jordan without a question.
It also baffles me how certain so called Bulls fans on this forum try to undermind and discredit Pippen and his greatness.
If not for a stupid call by Hue Hollins, Pippen very much could be showing off 7 rings to Jordans 6....oh yeah, and I forgot 2000 Portland....maybe 8 rings..........oh wait, if not for Barkleys greed and poor attitiude, Pip could of got a ring in Houston too......9 rings?

Bottom line is Pippen is and always will be a WINNER...

You are preaching to the chior, bro! I couldn't agree with you more!!! No offense to MJ, but Scottie is actually my all-time favorite Chicago Bull & 2nd favorite NBA player of all-time (behind only Magic Johnson, who Scottie shut down in the '91 Finals).

 

[97Bulls]

It's not that Pippen was nothing without Jordan, it's that Pippen WOULD HAVE been nothing like he was without Jordan constantly pushing him in practice (& often after practice) to be great. That doesn't mean I think Pip would have completely sucked without MJ, but I don't think he ever would have become one of the 50 greatest players of all time if he wasn't traded from Seattle.

You need to do some research and find out how Pippen got to the NBA as a top five lottery pick. Pippen had the drive and determiination wayyyyyyy before he joined the Bulls and began practicing with Jordan.

Whats more is why didnt Jordan help out Brad Sellers? Or Jeff Sanders? Or Matt Stienga? Or Pete Myers? Or Keith Booth?
Why couldnt he turn BJ Armstrong into a perrenial allstar?

The hate Pippen recieves on this site is utterly pathetic.

 

[Glide2keva]

You are preaching to the chior, bro! I couldn't agree with you more!!! No offense to MJ, but Scottie is actually my all-time favorite Chicago Bull & 2nd favorite NBA player of all-time (behind only Magic Johnson, who Scottie shut down in the '91 Finals).

Uh oh!!!!

 

[97Bulls]

Id like to know wheres Rami, Heff, Firsttimer, Nwfisch and the others that have made it their civic duty to undermine Pippens greatness. And happily voice what they feel Pippen couldnt do. But act as if theyre unbiased.

A bunch of jokes

 

[nwfisch]

Id like to know wheres Rami, Heff, Firsttimer, Nwfisch and the others that have made it their civic duty to undermine Pippens greatness. And happily voice what they feel Pippen couldnt do. But act as if theyre unbiased.

A bunch of jokes

Saying he's the perfect complement to Jordan undermined his greatness? :lol:

Go back to saying Dolan is a better owner because he "tried harder."

Go back to saying Tyrus Thomas and Ben Gordon are "staples" of winning organizations.

 

[Diddy1122]

You need to do some research and find out how Pippen got to the NBA as a top five lottery pick. Pippen had the drive and determiination wayyyyyyy before he joined the Bulls and began practicing with Jordan.

Did I say I hate Pippen? Nope. Did I say he was a bad player? Nope again. Did I say Pip didn't have drive or determination? Wow, Nope again. 0-3 bro.

Whats more is why didnt Jordan help out Brad Sellers? Or Jeff Sanders? Or Matt Stienga? Or Pete Myers? Or Keith Booth?

:rolling:
Seriously, Brad Sellers? Do I really need to explain that one? or Jeff Sanders? You didn't even spell Matt Steigenga's name correctly! Do you even know any of these players you are listing or did you just wiki old shitty Bulls players?

The hate Pippen recieves on this site is utterly pathetic.

That's a completely untrue statement. Pippen does not receive ANY hate on here. If by "hate", you mean "objective thinking" then I guess we're hating on Pip all the time. What's pathetic is Pippen Lovers who don't acknowledge that MJ MADE HIM BETTER.

Don't believe me? Ask Pip. I'm sure he'll tell you the same thing.

 

[Deng Defense Force]

Id like to know wheres Rami, Heff, Firsttimer, Nwfisch and the others that have made it their civic duty to undermine Pippens greatness. And happily voice what they feel Pippen couldnt do. But act as if theyre unbiased.

A bunch of jokes

Well in all fairness, nwfisch is the Pippen expert. After all, he has seen about 10 youtube videos of Pippen and was able to overhear a few Barkley games while in the womb.

 

[Nillz of The Bulls Show]

It's not that Pippen was nothing without Jordan, it's that Pippen WOULD HAVE been nothing like he was without Jordan constantly pushing him in practice (& often after practice) to be great. That doesn't mean I think Pip would have completely sucked without MJ, but I don't think he ever would have become one of the 50 greatest players of all time if he wasn't traded from Seattle.

No question that Jordan was a major influence on Pippen, and without him Pippen may have not been the same player... but it's also a two-way street. Can we say with 100% certainty that Jordan's game isn't elevated by going against such an elite defender like Pippen in practice every day? Maybe. Maybe not. I hope I'm not making this up, but I also vaguely remember Jordan referring to Pippen as "the best one there" during Dream Team scrimmages, after Pippen had doubts he even belonged.

And the end of the day, neither won without the other... and I miss them both (pause).

 

[Diddy1122]

No question that Jordan was a major influence on Pippen, and without him Pippen may have not been the same player... but it's also a two-way street. Can we say with 100% certainty that Jordan's game isn't elevated by going against such an elite defender like Pippen in practice every day? Maybe. Maybe not. I hope I'm not making this up, but I also vaguely remember Jordan referring to Pippen as "the best one there" during Dream Team scrimmages, after Pippen had doubts he even belonged.

And the end of the day, neither won without the other... and I miss them both (pause).

While MJ will acknowledge that Pip made him better, which I'm sure he did, I think the amount he elevated MJ's game is minute in comparison to how MJ elevated Pip's. MJ already had the single greatest scoring season since Wilt the season before Pip was drafted, then won MVP & DPOY in Pip's rookie season. MJ didn't need Pip to become great. Yet certain Pip Lovers will have you believe that Pip is the reason for MJ's greatness. It's a total fallacy. Once again, it's not a knock against Pip, it's just cold hard facts.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Saying he's the perfect complement to Jordan undermined his greatness? :lol:

Go back to saying Dolan is a better owner because he "tried harder."

Go back to saying Tyrus Thomas and Ben Gordon are "staples" of winning organizations.

Well then, I guess Barkley, Magic, Shaq, and Bird would of been very good complimentary players if they had Jordan on there team also......what former great would of been the number 1 guy on there team if Michael Jordan was on there team......the answer is NONE.

No offense, Fisch, you are still a good man Charlie Brown, but it hurts me to see how you let Hue, FirstTimer and the rest of the hater brigade misinform you.....I know yyou are very interested in Bulls history, but at least don't solely base all you knowlede on just 1 guys biased opinion......Hue is not a basketball professor, just a man with his own opinion.....don't confuse opinions with facts.......
It is not factual to assume what Kind of player Pippen would of been without Jordan because it could of been both ways...Pippen might have been better without Jordan or worse....it could of been either way and nobody knows that for sure.....but a logical man would assume that Pippen would of been great no matter where he played...

I know you are smarter than this...........I have just given you your freedom, I suggest you use it buddy.......

 

[houheffna]

No question that Jordan was a major influence on Pippen, and without him Pippen may have not been the same player... but it's also a two-way street. Can we say with 100% certainty that Jordan's game isn't elevated by going against such an elite defender like Pippen in practice every day? Maybe. Maybe not. I hope I'm not making this up, but I also vaguely remember Jordan referring to Pippen as "the best one there" during Dream Team scrimmages, after Pippen had doubts he even belonged.

And the end of the day, neither won without the other... and I miss them both (pause).

Jordan would win MVP before Pippen was any good. Jordan may have staked his claim as the best player in the league by the time Pippen was drafted. Pippen needed Jordan much more than Jordan needed Pippen.

 

[nwfisch]

Jordan would win MVP before Pippen was any good. Jordan may have staked his claim as the best player in the league by the time Pippen was drafted. Pippen needed Jordan much more than Jordan needed Pippen.

Blasphemy.