Senior and Shrine Bowl Discussion Thread

[bearsfan1977]

Isnt this the guy people think may drop to the late 20's?

He’s not getting out of the top 15.

 

[playthrough2001]

2025 Reese’s Senior Bowl: Top performers at every position

Max Chadwick breaks down the the top performers at every position from the 2025 Reese’s Senior Bowl.

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Senior Bowl winners & losers: Jaxson Dart rises, Jalen Milroe sees fall in 2025 NFL Draft stock | Sporting News

Which 2025 NFL Draft prospects helped or hurt their stock the most during Senior Bowl practices in Mobile? While one SEC East QB had a good week, another did not.

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2025 Senior Bowl: Stock Up, Stock Down at Day 3 Practices

Day 3 of the Senior Bowl saw standout performances from prospects like Darius Alexander and Jack Bech, while others struggled. See who boosted their draft stock and who took a hit.

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[Luke]

2025 Reese’s Senior Bowl: Top performers at every position

Max Chadwick breaks down the the top performers at every position from the 2025 Reese’s Senior Bowl.

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Senior Bowl winners & losers: Jaxson Dart rises, Jalen Milroe sees fall in 2025 NFL Draft stock | Sporting News

Which 2025 NFL Draft prospects helped or hurt their stock the most during Senior Bowl practices in Mobile? While one SEC East QB had a good week, another did not.

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2025 Senior Bowl: Stock Up, Stock Down at Day 3 Practices

Day 3 of the Senior Bowl saw standout performances from prospects like Darius Alexander and Jack Bech, while others struggled. See who boosted their draft stock and who took a hit.

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why did Milroe even come out this year? I wouldn't take him until day 3.
Could Dart sneak into the late 1st, early 2nd for sure.
Good for Zabel but best IOL in the draft lol. maybe early 2nd tho.

 

[playthrough2001]

why did Milroe even come out this year? I wouldn't take him until day 3.
Could Dart sneak into the late 1st, early 2nd for sure.
Good for Zabel but best IOL in the draft lol. maybe early 2nd tho.

Zabel had a nice week. The hype is a seriously overblown. For example, is there any chance in the world a NFL GM would take Zabel over Jackson or Booker?

I wasn’t impressed by Milroe at Bama. I see him having a rough NFL ride.

 

[Luke]

Zabel had a nice week. The hype is a seriously overblown. For example, is there any chance in the world a NFL GM would take Zabel over Jackson or Booker?

I wasn’t impressed by Milroe at Bama. I see him having a rough NFL ride.

totally agree.
Yeah, that's just the usual SB hype train. Zabel definitely made himself some moolah tho.
Milroe had another year of eligibility. Maybe Bama didn't want him back but he could have gone elsewhere for more seasoning.

 

[msadows]

totally agree.
Yeah, that's just the usual SB hype train. Zabel definitely made himself some moolah tho.
Milroe had another year of eligibility. Maybe Bama didn't want him back but he could have gone elsewhere for more seasoning.

Teams love overdrafting QB's. I'm going to laugh so hard when the steelers take him at #21.

Around the same time in 2023 I thought that richardson would be a 2nd round pick cause nfl teams cant be dumb enough to draft a QB high who cant even throw against college defenses accurately. Boy was I fucking wrong

 

[HearshotKDS]

I know it's still early in the process but Zabel seems to be climbing draft boards all the way into the 1st round with how good and versatile he is.

Noel is an interesting pick for the Bears too - slot receiver that was one of the better return men as well. Bears seem to have been cursed on PR in the last X seasons. Not sure 72 is a great spot for him but maybe he rocks the combine and wont make it to day 3.

 

[--CyBear--]

The thing about this draft is after the first five or six players there is no consensus on who the next 15 or so players are. At that point it is an in the eye of the beholder type draft.

That's a 'normal' draft scenario.

 

[Nelly]

Noel is an interesting pick for the Bears too - slot receiver that was one of the better return men as well. Bears seem to have been cursed on PR in the last X seasons. Not sure 72 is a great spot for him but maybe he rocks the combine and wont make it to day 3.

Iowa State baby!

 

[Discus fish salesman]

He’s not getting out of the top 15.

The only 2 defensive players I'd consider at 10 (assuming Carter and Graham are gone) are green and Nolen. Both are probably considered reaches there but I'm alright with that as I think they could both be game wreckers.

 

[bearsfan1977]

The only 2 defensive players I'd consider at 10 (assuming Carter and Graham are gone) are green and Nolen. Both are probably considered reaches there but I'm alright with that as I think they could both be game wreckers.

I’ve been reading there are character concerns with Nolen. Who knows if any of that is true. A lot of nonsense gets spread about prospects, but it’ll be something to monitor.

Green is a really good prospect. I’m a fan of Mykel Williams, also.

 

[--CyBear--]

Haven't watch practices. Game is recorded and will get to it but hear there was a guy playing DT that's a state champ wrestler. Nash Hutmacher and why isn't he playing inside OL? He's a late round pick/UDFA, I'd consider taking a guy like that for the PS and convert him to inside OL. If he's not all that as a DT due to speed, leverage, strong hands and contact balance are exactly what you want inside OL. Quicks may still be an issue but this is how you roll dice with those picks if not a RB.

Yah, I know. Quite the projection without watching a snap, LOL. More a conceptual exercise.

 

[playthrough2001]

Dane Bruglers’ Senior Bowl winners by position via The Athletic (abridged):

“At one point during Wednesday’s practice, I was standing on the sidelines within 5 feet of three NFL coaches: Kevin Stefanski, Mike Tomlin and Dave Canales. For the prospects at the Senior Bowl, the chance to make a lasting impression in front of these coaches is invaluable.

Here are the players from each position who maximized their opportunities in Mobile:

Quarterback: Tyler Shough, Louisville​

If we’re being honest, none of the quarterbacks — Shough, Jalen Milroe, Jaxson Dart, Riley Leonard, Seth Henigan, Dillon Gabriel or Canadian prospect Taylor Elgersma — jumped out in a major way throughout the week. Based on an informal poll of scouts in attendance, no one disagreed.

However, Shough was the most consistent of the group, which isn’t a major surprise. In my Senior Bowl preview, I highlighted Shough as an underrated candidate to be QB3 or QB4 in this class (behind Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders), and he didn’t do anything to hurt that projection. With his size, arm strength and mobility, he has the requisite physical traits and sees the field well to deliver the ball downfield. If the main criticism against him is that he is already 25, plenty of teams can live with that.

Runner-up would be Gabriel, who processes things at a high level to make quick, snap decisions. The Oregon quarterback also was the most impressive in group interview sessions, multiple scouts said. In which middle round will the Miami Dolphins draft the southpaw?

Running back: Devin Neal, Kansas​

It can be tough for running backs to truly impress during Senior Bowl practices, but Neal was consistent all week hitting holes on time and catching the football. Though he wasn’t a high-volume pass catcher at Kansas, he was reliable when targeted in Mobile, and his hand-eye coordination is terrific (not surprising considering Neal also played baseball for a bit at Kansas).

Georgia’s Trevor Etienne and UCF’s RJ Harvey also caught the ball well during drills, and Miami’s Damien Martinez was impressive in pass protection, especially during Thursday’s practice.

Wide receiver: Jaylin Noel, Iowa State​

There were several deserving options for top wide receiver this week.

Oregon’s Tez Johnson is speedy yet undersized, at just 155 pounds — but that didn’t matter much either in college or this week during practices, because defenders struggled to get hands on him or affect his catch point. His week looked very similar to Tank Dell’s from two years ago.

Utah State’s Jalen Royals missed the last two months of the 2024 season with a foot injury, but he returned to the field in Mobile and reminded NFL scouts why he’d been stamped as a potential top-75 pick in September. Washington State’s Kyle Williams — and his play speed — was a nice surprise. TCU’s Jack Bech made several highlight-reel catches downfield. And, according to a few scouts in attendance, Iowa State’s Jayden Higgins is the favorite to be the first Senior Bowl receiver drafted.

But I’m giving the edge here to Noel, the “other” Cyclones receiver. Already considered a likely Day 2 draft pick, he only cemented himself in the top 100 with his ability to separate and pull away. He doesn’t have ideal size (5 feet 9 3/4, 196 pounds), but he plays with supreme confidence in his hands.

Tight end: Elijah Arroyo, Miami​

Entering Senior Bowl week, LSU’s Mason Taylor was my TE3 in this class, followed by Arroyo at TE4 — but the Miami product is closing that gap, based on how he performed in Mobile. Taylor also had a strong week, though, and both players deserve easy starter-level grades.

Arroyo (6-4 1/2, 251) is a fluid mover with the speed to create spacing from coverage and cleanly secure throws outside his frame. He is knocking on the door of the first round.

Offensive tackle: Josh Conerly Jr., OT, Oregon​

Here’s the thing about offensive tackles during Senior Bowl one-on-one drills: They all end up getting beat at some point (often multiple times). And that was especially true of this year’s group, which was tasked with facing a stacked defensive line class. There wasn’t one offensive tackle who truly impressed. When focusing on the positive reps, however, several handled themselves well — and Conerly is a good example of that.

Everyone has seen the Mike Green bull rush that left Conerly on his back, but I was encouraged by the way Conerly responded. The former Oregon left tackle put that play behind him and got better on the next rep and in the next practice, performing his best during one-on-ones on Day 3. When he is late with his hands and exposes his chest, Conerly is in trouble; when on time, he stays square and can get himself out of some compromising situations.

Interior offensive line: Grey Zabel, North Dakota State​

No other prospect in Mobile stacked more “wins” throughout the week than Zabel. He showed technique, play strength and quick feet to consistently work himself into position and control defenders.

On my midseason top 50 draft board in November, the North Dakota State left tackle made the cut as my top-ranked center — and he has only helped himself since then. I feel comfortable calling Zabel a top-40 lock, and a first-round landing spot isn’t out of the question.

Edge rusher: Mike Green, Marshall​

Anyone who follows my work knows how glowing my thoughts are on Green as a prospect. But — no bias here — he had the most flashes of a very flashy edge group in Mobile. That bull rush on Conerly got the most attention, but Green consistently made plays with bend, burst and violence.

I chuckle whenever I see someone caught up on Green’s size instead of focusing on the ways he wins. He is an easy first-round grade. The question is: How high will he go?

Defensive tackle: Darius Alexander, Toledo​

This year’s defensive line class is loaded, and it includes several likely early-rounders who were in Mobile: Ole Miss’ Walter Nolen, Kentucky’s Deone Walker and South Carolina’s T.J. Sanders.

But it was Alexander who had the most consistently impressive week. It didn’t matter whether he lined up on the edge, over the B-gap or as a nose, he won with fluid body control and strong hands, using a club-rip on one rep and then a firm bull rush the next play.

Defensive linemen that are 6-3 5/8, 304 with 33-inch arms and this type of talent rarely fall out of the top 100 — and I’ll bet Alexander doesn’t, either.

Linebacker: Jeffrey Bassa, Oregon​

Several linebackers did a nice job throughout the week. Georgia’s Smael Mondon Jr. was the loudest voice on the field and showed off his range during drills. Florida’s Shemar James flashed more than a few times, especially in one-on-one coverage against running backs.

After an up-and-down 2024 season, though, Bassa needed a strong week in Mobile to remind scouts of his talent — and he did that. The former safety plays fast and aggressive, which can backfire at times, but he has the natural fluidity to make quick recoveries. In an all-star game setting, NFL scouts and coaches pay close attention to how players move in space, and Bassa was terrific in that respect.

Cornerback: Quincy Riley, Louisville​

One-on-one drills are such a tough ask for cornerbacks — there’s no pass rush, no hook or post defender; there’s only green grass for the receiver. Yet, I was consistently impressed with this cornerback group in Mobile, especially Riley. The Louisville product consistently stayed in phase with receivers and did a great job turning his head or reading the eyes of the receiver to make plays on the ball.

Another aspect of Riley’s week that was impressive was the way he coached up the other corners. When a player such as Darien Porter returned to the huddle, Riley pointed out different leverages and route tells to help him on his next rep. Riley’s combination of experience and quick-reaction skills will serve him well in the NFL.

Safety: Dante Trader Jr., Maryland​

I didn’t hear a lot of buzz from scouts about this safety group, as it was an up-and-down week for the position. Virginia’s Jonas Sanker had a few nice moments, especially on Day 3. Georgia’s Dan Jackson doesn’t know how to play other than fast and physical, and that showed during practices.”

Senior Bowl winners by position: Which 2025 NFL Draft prospects impressed scouts?Senior Bowl winners by position: Which 2025 NFL Draft prospects impressed scouts?

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

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[playthrough2001]

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Bech had a great season at TCU. The team overall was pretty lackluster but this guy should have real mid-round appeal.

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RJ Harvey is one of my favorite value tier RBs. Also, he led the Big 12 in rushing.

 

[Luke]

Edge rusher: Mike Green, Marshall​

Anyone who follows my work knows how glowing my thoughts are on Green as a prospect. But — no bias here — he had the most flashes of a very flashy edge group in Mobile. That bull rush on Conerly got the most attention, but Green consistently made plays with bend, burst and violence.

I chuckle whenever I see someone caught up on Green’s size instead of focusing on the ways he wins. He is an easy first-round grade. The question is: How high will he go?

FWIW on this note, I heard Zach Zaidman talking with a Saints beat guy from NOLA.com on the score yesterday.
Zach asked him what the Bears can expect from Allen as a DC.
The first thing he responded with was that Allen loves big DE's.
I'm not saying that they wouldn't select Green but these DC's tend to get set in their ways on certain player types.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

NFL insider’s diary: Inside Bears HC Ben Johnson’s 2025 NFL Draft plan and latest on Saints’ coaching search

Three days of padded practice at the 2025 Senior Bowl have been completed as has the game, and this year’s edition has come to a close.

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Some Bears stuff in here

 

[bearsfan1977]

Zabel’s biggest asset is his versatility. I think he has the perfect profile to play C, and I would not at all be upset with him at 39 if he drops that far.