Stephen A. Smith says T-Mac will sign with Bulls after lockout ends

[Diddy1122]

I'm curious, what are everyone's thoughts on Rodney Stuckey?

No one seems to be talking about him. He'll be a RFA. He can play both guard positions with skill, create his own shot & shots for teammates, works hard, plays solid defense, & could come relatively cheap. This is all assuming Detroit doesn't want him back. Detroit will amnesty someone (Rip, BG, Charlie V, take your pick) so they may decide to keep him, but hell it's worth a shot I think.

 

[Diddy1122]

The problem with this slant is that the 50% of the time that he's not a waste of talent could mean a lot more to the Bulls than a Bogans kind of player.

I'm not going to argue that he fits in well with the players they've been acquiring. But if you're talking about what they need? It becomes a different matter to discuss.

You know I could even change that from 50% to like 75%. He's the definition of streaky. Add on top of that, he's a head case it makes the risk more than the reward in my eyes.

 

[Lex L.]

You know I could even change that from 50% to like 75%. He's the definition of streaky. Add on top of that, he's a head case it makes the risk more than the reward in my eyes.

Just look at the impact Bogans had when he scored X amount of points. The problem was that his almost never happened. When he went off in game 1 vs the Heat, it was a route. Even if having Smith means two games, I'm not so sure its still not worth it over what Bogans gives us. With Bogans 10 pts is a massive accomplishment. With Smith, he can go from 8 pts to 31 pts in a qtr and a half like its nothing. Yeah, he's streaky compared to other players who are capable of putting up points. But compared to Bogans?

The thing about him being a head case is that if he gets in the right setting, it might work. It could also end badly. But we've seen what Bogans gives us. And I like Bogans but that doesnt mean we shouldnt upgrade if possible.

Im also not saying we should get Smith but I also don't think he should be readily dismissed. He's actually one of the few guys who can give Wade all he can handle on defense when he has it going. Im not sure how many other guys are out there that can make Wade play defense.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

afflalo helps the bulls because what they really need is another competent scorer, but more importantly another 3 point shooter that spreads out Ds so they cant pack it in or play zone

opens up the interior for the bigs and rose

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Oh I don't know..

I think rose and Smith will have good chemistry. They are both G's.

 

[Diddy1122]

Look I believe Smith could be a tremendous talent. I remember watching him in the McDonald's All-American game & thinking "This kid is going to be something special in the NBA." Unfortunately, he turned out to be one in a line of coddled, immature athletes who rely solely on their athleticism than actually acquiring the skills necessary to become a complete player.

 

[WindyCity7]

I'm curious, what are everyone's thoughts on Rodney Stuckey?

No one seems to be talking about him. He'll be a RFA. He can play both guard positions with skill, create his own shot & shots for teammates, works hard, plays solid defense, & could come relatively cheap. This is all assuming Detroit doesn't want him back. Detroit will amnesty someone (Rip, BG, Charlie V, take your pick) so they may decide to keep him, but hell it's worth a shot I think.

Hes def worth a look but overall he may be too small

 

[houheffna]

afflalo helps the bulls because what they really need is another competent scorer, but more importantly another 3 point shooter that spreads out Ds so they cant pack it in or play zone

opens up the interior for the bigs and rose

Having a guy shoot and possibly miss open 3s is not the problem that I saw...only one guy could shoulder the load. And he would get dominated by a bigger, stronger guy who is about as fast in Lebron. You can't win and you definitely can't beat a team like Miami with just one guy creating shots for himself...they are just going to lose again...

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Having a guy shoot and possibly miss open 3s is not the problem that I saw...only one guy could shoulder the load. And he would get dominated by a bigger, stronger guy who is about as fast in Lebron. You can't win and you definitely can't beat a team like Miami with just one guy creating shots for himself...they are just going to lose again...

game 1:
10-21

game 2:
3-20

game 3:5-12

game 4:6-24

game 5:7-22


i think there's a legitimate argument made for improving the 3 point shot

when the bulls have their 3 point shot working..it opens up their offense(of course game 1 alot of things were working for them)

certainly having another ballhandler would be good too, but i would be wary of adding someone with the IQ and shot selection of smith...not to mention the fact that he doesnt start in the denver...who starts over him? afflalo

 

[houheffna]

game 1:
10-21

game 2:
3-20

game 3:5-12

game 4:6-24

game 5:7-22


i think there's a legitimate argument made for improving the 3 point shot

when the bulls have their 3 point shot working..it opens up their offense(of course game 1 alot of things were working for them)

certainly having another ballhandler would be good too, but i would be wary of adding someone with the IQ and shot selection of smith...not to mention the fact that he doesnt start in the denver...who starts over him? afflalo

I don't think who starts necessarily symbolizes who the better player is.

And getting one guy in who isn't a better 3pt shooter than Kyle Korver, who himself contributed to the low efficiency you speak of, won't win in this instance.

There was one time that a team would win with one playmaker...1994. Since then, the options were there if not utilized. The Bulls don't have the option...and they definitely don't have anyone akin to Olajuwon. So I will continue to state that having a guy who can create a shot is optimum right now.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

I don't think who starts necessarily symbolizes who the better player is.

i think it speaks for who may be more important to the team overall rather in stretches

And getting one guy in who isn't a better 3pt shooter than Kyle Korver, who himself contributed to the low efficiency you speak of, won't win in this instance.

korver was partly bad because he had a lot of pressure on him to make the outside imo..he really doesnt have another sharpshooter than take the load off him(i.e. if he's off then the bulls have another option from the outside)
and certainly with afflalo,korver and an improving outside shot from deng and rose..will force team to respect the 3..and again that opens up a lot more opportunities inside

and i really dont think that getting a guy who

A.doesnt start on his own team

B.has a rather negative history surrounding him(regarding chemistry and team orientation)

C. has a poor shoot selection

is going to win "in this instance" either

There was one time that a team would win with one playmaker...1994. Since then, the options were there if not utilized. The Bulls don't have the option...and they definitely don't have anyone akin to Olajuwon. So I will continue to state that having a guy who can create a shot is optimum right now.

i'm not going to stand here and completely disagree regarding the bulls needing another playmaker or not...certainly that helps..but jr smith is a very poor option when you talk about playmaking..i would certainly rather have a guy who makes the defense honor the 3 point and probably less of a risk(also not too shabby a defender..team defender more importantly)

i certianly think the bulls could benefit from another playmaker..but jr smith? that seems like grasping at straws slightly...i'd much rather take ellis...

 

[houheffna]

Who starts doesn't necessarily make them more important either...

And I am not an advocate of JR Smith necessarily, but I am for someone filling the role of playmaker on the team beside Rose. There are better options available than Smith, but there are better options better than Afflalo also.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Who starts doesn't necessarily make them more important either...

depending on the team, but i still think jr not starting speaks a significant amount of volume

And I am not an advocate of JR Smith necessarily, but I am for someone filling the role of playmaker on the team beside Rose.

i understand where you're coming from..and again certainly the bulls should look for another playmaker..but it should not be jr smith

i suggest afflalo because he can attribute to a different aspect of the game that may also be a solution to the bull's offensive problems...there's more than one way to dissect a pig..or whatever the hell that phrase is..but you get the point

There are better options available than Smith, but there are better options better than Afflalo also.

of course there are..but i'm looking solely at what is relatively available and what the bulls may be aiming at as well as affordability(not including trades)

 

[nwfisch]

If the Bulls are going to overpay on a relatively unproven Affalo, I'd rather have them overpay Jamal Crawford...

 

[USCChiFan]

If the Bulls are going to overpay on a relatively unproven Affalo, I'd rather have them overpay Jamal Crawford...

I want no part of Crawford. He couldn't play D if his life depended on it

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

If Arron Afflalo had Jamal Crawford's ball-handling skills and court vision then he would be a perennial all-star.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

If Arron Afflalo had Jamal Crawford's ball-handling skills and court vision then he would be a perennial all-star.

But he doesn't.
Now back in reality, Afflalo is just a sliight improvement over Bogans.
Therefore, JR Smith will be a Bull.
:derbulls:

 

[RC_Skinny22]

Damn bro, in all seriousness. I like how you stand your ground, but your JR. Smith posts in every single thread really start to annoy!

 

[houheffna]

Yeah, J.R. Smith is a bit overhyped on this forum. It is not that necessary.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Okay fine then.
Ben Gordon it is....That is my final offer.....Yes!!!