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You're a greater burden.
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This fat **** thinks he was called out by his coach, he was not
Ben Johnson said luther will be ready by training camp. Daniel is pretty fucking dumb, clearly thinks shemar turner is injured which he isnt. He doesnt even know turner practiced in full during rookie camp/mini camp/ota's
Ben Johnson said luther will be ready by training camp. Daniel is pretty fucking dumb, clearly thinks shemar turner is injured which he isnt. He doesnt even know turner practiced in full during rookie camp/mini camp/ota's
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So, do we still need to wait for him to play during the season or should he be cut?
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Daniel simply wants to be contrary to be contrary. With Bears fans, he hates everything Bears. But when he engages the 2 idiot Lions fans, he defends the Bears.
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Has this been shared? Lmaooooo
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Must be a new daniel thing because prior to this offseason he was the biggest meatball on here while everyone else was pessimistic.
Now that people are optimistic the guy is acting like a giant fucking cuckold walking around depressed.
The only thing that didnt change is how stupid his posts are
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The definition of trolling. He's a bored man and has nothing better to do with his time. Kinda sad actually.
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Nah steve smith never said good stuff about luther. Daniel said that steve smith thinks luther is lazy and quits on routes so he wont be a good nfl player.
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The least he could do is try to be funny
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You don't need to be this mad all the time bruh
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If Burden and Loveland don't contribute this year - Poles won't be here next year.
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I disagree, partly. They should contribute SOMETHING. I personally think they WILL have good years, but they're rookies. I don't expect Loveland to be a TOP FIVE TE or for Burden to be a TOP 20 WR. But they BOTH are the future, and you should be EXCITED about it. Poles has bought himself a few years for sure.
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Poles is 15-36, if this season is another stinker it's back to Kansas City for him.
That's not the best result for his prized draft pick or by extension - the franchise but it shouldn't take 5 years to build a winner.
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If this season is another stinker caleb is likely a bust and ben johnson its time to go back to detroit
TBH he probably already has an extension the moment they hired ben johnson
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Contrary just to be Contrary huh? Ryan Poles legacy speaks for itself. The Bears record speaks for itself. The players that were equally responsible for the 10 game losing streak, speaks for itself.
Caleb Williams down the field accuracy speaks for itself. Drafting pre injured players like Amegadjie Turner and Loveland speaks for itself. Passing on Jalen Carter speaks for itself. Trading for Chase Claypool speaks for itself. Claiming Alex Leatherwood off waivers and paying his rookie contract when no other team put in a waiver claim speaks for itself. Trading for Montez Sweat and paying him Top-10 defensive end money speaks for itself. Hiring Shane Waldron and having a sports talk radio guy from Seattle tell you it's an awful hire, speaks for itself, failure to build an offensive line when the two guys in charge are former offensive line guys speaks for itself. Having to trade for defensive line scraps after training camp with three practices before your week 1 game against the Titans speaks for itself.
Should I go on with more reasons why Ryan Poles sucks?
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Claiming that J'marcus Webb will be a great player speaks for itself
I'm pretty sure you said you'd log out and not post on here anymore if he was not the starting tackle for the bears in 2013. He didnt even make the damn team, yet here you are 12 years later still acting like an idiot
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Pssst……it’s not an act……
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Dude, I am not a fan of Poles either. I think that overall he sucks too. But, I think I call a spade a spade and am able to speak to positives and negatives. You simply blast every move and never even let things play out. You never mention positives unless you are engaged with the Lions fans.
Not everything Poles has done has been a failure. Most of it has. Let's see how this year plays out with the new coaches and schemes and lots of new players. I personally still see them as an 8 win team but I would be OK with that if there is progress made and CW improves.
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Here’s a detailed analysis of Burden. I’ll include some highlights.
“Most of you are old enough to remember that A.J. Brown was a slot receiver at Ole Miss and Justin Jefferson manned the slot at LSU. Analysts underrated both players based on their roles, failing to adequately document their skills that transcend the results.
Tracking production, breakout seasons, route success, and draft capital are all valuable layers of studying a player.
If you're not analyzing the processes of releases, route stems, route breaks, uncovering against defenders, and man-to-man routes vs. zone routes, there's a significant risk of missing the underlying foundation of what helps us project success for a player.
With a large enough sample, data analysis can gloss over this missing context and sometimes get more right than wrong and proclaim success. Analysts hope these processes are baked into the results. When they are, they don't have to understand the tools of wide receiver play that make or break the player's game.
This approach is good enough to allow you to color within the lines of safe decision-making because a large enough sample can encompass enough "good play" to bake the process into the results. When you follow safe decision-making, you're less likely to be a big loser in fantasy football.
If you stay within the lines too much and don't consider compelling scenarios to step outside, you're also less likely to be a big winner. There are areas of the draft where it's safer to avoid the consensus because everyone is thinking alike. In competitive endeavors, you win by fitting in.
Luther Burden III's data may scream dink-and-dunk and/or gadget archetypes like Robinson, Mecole Hardman, and Tavon Austin, but you might as well have seen smoke on Instagram while scanning your phone during previews in a movie theater and screamed FIRE!!!! None of these three gadgets had complete games with routes or at the point of the catch.
Luther Burden III is a far more complete route runner than characterized, and his speed will translate to the vertical game. Burden demonstrated position-specific techniques and concepts on film that some data analysts couldn't quantify due to sample size, but these skills led to route success beyond the gadget game.
Luther Burden III's route skills, speed, ability to adjust with his quarterback, and pass-tracking make him a legitimate intermediate and vertical threat.”
More at this link:
www.footballguys.com
“Most of you are old enough to remember that A.J. Brown was a slot receiver at Ole Miss and Justin Jefferson manned the slot at LSU. Analysts underrated both players based on their roles, failing to adequately document their skills that transcend the results.
Tracking production, breakout seasons, route success, and draft capital are all valuable layers of studying a player.
If you're not analyzing the processes of releases, route stems, route breaks, uncovering against defenders, and man-to-man routes vs. zone routes, there's a significant risk of missing the underlying foundation of what helps us project success for a player.
With a large enough sample, data analysis can gloss over this missing context and sometimes get more right than wrong and proclaim success. Analysts hope these processes are baked into the results. When they are, they don't have to understand the tools of wide receiver play that make or break the player's game.
This approach is good enough to allow you to color within the lines of safe decision-making because a large enough sample can encompass enough "good play" to bake the process into the results. When you follow safe decision-making, you're less likely to be a big loser in fantasy football.
If you stay within the lines too much and don't consider compelling scenarios to step outside, you're also less likely to be a big winner. There are areas of the draft where it's safer to avoid the consensus because everyone is thinking alike. In competitive endeavors, you win by fitting in.
Luther Burden III's data may scream dink-and-dunk and/or gadget archetypes like Robinson, Mecole Hardman, and Tavon Austin, but you might as well have seen smoke on Instagram while scanning your phone during previews in a movie theater and screamed FIRE!!!! None of these three gadgets had complete games with routes or at the point of the catch.
Luther Burden III is a far more complete route runner than characterized, and his speed will translate to the vertical game. Burden demonstrated position-specific techniques and concepts on film that some data analysts couldn't quantify due to sample size, but these skills led to route success beyond the gadget game.
- He repeatedly beats cornerbacks aligned at the line of scrimmage on vertical routes.
- He stacks (cuts off their paths to control the route) defenders early or late in routes.
- He uses effective changes in pacing and takes angles to enforce a defender's position to set up breaks.
- He uses his head and eyes at the top of routes to bait defenders playing over the top.
- His breaks are tight, sharp, and have the snap to gain angles of separation that defenders can't cut off.
- He can drop his weight into breaks against tight coverage, and it leads to effective separation.
Luther Burden III's route skills, speed, ability to adjust with his quarterback, and pass-tracking make him a legitimate intermediate and vertical threat.”
More at this link:
Luther Burden III: All-In? The Gut Check No. 645
Luther Burden III is a compelling candidate to become the most productive rookie fantasy receiver in 2025. Matt Waldman explains why.
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I mean, if they go 0-17 and Ben is a failure, sure. But I don't expect that. Does anybody expect that? It's a very tough SOS. Ben/Poles made a lot of great moves in the off-season, and the draft got great grades as well. That bought them time. Honestly, with this tough SOS I'd be happy if they got a winning record, 9-8. I do expect this OFF to look a lot better. It would take a total failure, IMO for either of them to be moved.
Also, this talk about Caleb being a bust, let's ease up on that. He struggled and had way too many sacks but he set some Bears rookie/QB records, and actually had a pretty good rookie stat line
3541 / 20 tds / 6 ints
I think it was like the tenth best rookie year ever? And let's compare him to Jayden Daniels who EVERYONE loves—
3568 / 25 tds / 9 ints
This regime has bought itself a few years, for sure.