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I would be stoked if they could get 2 guys better than McClellin at ILB. But that is a lot when you add it to pass rusher, 2x CB, DL Depth and possibly S.
I would be stoked if they could get 2 guys better than McClellin at ILB. But that is a lot when you add it to pass rusher, 2x CB, DL Depth and possibly S.
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I was just mostly confused by the guys evaluation of Kevin White by comparing him to a nobody in Leonard Hankerson but also to the old Roddy White.
That is a huge net. You've basically covered every scenario when you say he could turn out to be a nobody like Hankerson or a guy who gets you 1000+ yards for 6 years in a row like the old Roddy was doing.
Either way I don't know what about Kevin White as a prospect made him believe he's comparable for a guy who catches 30 balls for 300-500 yards. Wilson can accomplish that.
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This is a perfect example of the weird annual amnesia that strikes chicago fans regarding cutler.
The same amnesia also strikes the bears FO every year.
I understand where you are coming from, and that you are looking at the glass half full- A bad green bay game, a game vs az where you choose to look at the good rather than bad, a couple good games vs lesser teams, and a back and forth battle against detroit, all adding up to decent and not detrimental. I get it.
However- With so many years of history with this guy, I look at it like this- Green bay was what it was, Arizona was starting to put the screws to the bears and Cutler went out at just the right time to avoid the game turning bad for him, and he missed what likely would have been a dreadful game in seattle.
Personally, I think circumstances have literally line up to give him about the best possible outcome so far this year.
That is just my opinion, and I must say I view the guy a lot more critically than most.
Opinions aside though, he is literally status quo this season.
You say that before the season you would have said the bears need to move on from cutler, but your mind has since changed, and that is why the annual amnesia is such a bizarre trait of chicago fans in regards to cutler... they get a few games removed from a meltdown, and people begin to think "maybe he has figured it out".
Then, a few weeks later, Lucy pulls the football away once again, leaving the charlie brown bears fans on their backs lamenting the hope that this time would be different.
The fact is, we have not seen the full picture yet.
The servicable beginning of the year is lacking the second half of the arizona game, which could have been brutal given the fact that arizona is great at picking up and exploiting weakness on d, and it also lacks the seattle game, which likely would have been poor.
With those, maybe we would have had clarity.
What we do know is that he missed a couple games yet again with a non contact injury.
What we also know is that this season, where he has changed your mind, is nothing special compared to the rest of his bears career. In all actuality, there are several seasons with chicago in which he started FAR better than he has this year... a couple years where he had a 90+ rating and a 2-1 td to in ratio after 5 games. Many seasons where he was more prolific in YPA,and 4 of 7 with a superior rating.
Spot on average Cutler.
Interestingly enough, the worse seasons through 5 games were 2011, which many consider to be his best as a bear, and 2012, a 10 win season.
He is still looking at a bunch of tough games ahead, including one at Green bay- where as a bear he his 0-4, 3 tds and 12 ints.
I think after the Rams/Broncos/Packers stretch, the picture will be a little more clear and your opinion might just revert back to what it was in the pre-season once you see him play some full games against tough defenses (and the packers).
Bottom line is, I legitimately see absolutely no difference in the guy thus far in 2015, and I am surprised so many others seem to think he is a changed man. I still see many of the same flaws that have not come out full force in a game as of yet, but the stars have aligned to keep him out of that position vs arizona and vs. seattle.
He had his pretty good comeback a couple weeks ago, but inevitably the other half of his game will rear its ugly head in the near future.
By the end of the green bay game, we will be right back where we were every season since he has been here- dissapointed and feeling foolish for thinking things have changed.
As far as the dig at Hoyer, just saying... Hoyer in 3 starts has 7 tds and 2 ints.. Overall on the season with the other 2 almost full games, he is at 11-3 with a 97 rating.. I personally rather would enjoy watching that.
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No one read your 3000 rant about Cutler, airtime. We got it a while ago
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Cutler's pocket presence has improved, he is more patient, he isn't rattled easily, he is more vocal and seems to be comfortable in the system. At this point it is obvious that those who don't want to see improvement never will. Cutler has played better. Is it justifiable to keep him as a long term solution? No but it gives us flexibility in the draft so the bears don't have to reach for a QB
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Is he?
Give it till after the 3 game stretch ending in green bay. Stretches like this one against mid tier teams have been what keeps the guy around every damn year, and stretches against teams that fit the mold of denver, st. louis, and the inevitable lambeau collapse are what shakes the faith in the guy.
Personally, I thought for much of the year he looked better in 14 than he had ever looked. Moreso than this year even.
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This should be everyone's stance on Cutler.
He has bought the Bears more time to find his replacement, and he has probably bought himself another year or 2 on the team.
The last thing the Bears should do is reach on a QB, and or rush a guy onto the field. That is exactly what you will see Houston do this year, and it is exactly what the Bears do not need to do.
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The bolded is the mindset I dont understand.
Lets just go by your opinion on him and call it correct for the sake of argument.
what is there to gain by sitting on your hands and doing nothing? The playoffs? unlikely.
The best outcome of not trying to improve is simply that you dont draft a bust.
the side effect is that any key pieces you do have are aging out.
Every year you try to plug holes around the guy, other holes open up. that is life in the NFL. even if you address every other need on the team, who is to say that you wont wind up with busts at those positions?
I dont see sense in waiting a year or 2 to draft a lower round guy so the bears can wait a few more years to see if he develops.
I am 3 years beyond ready for a couple 3-13 rebuilding years. I dont give a rats ass about a couple 7-9 years to save jobs and hold off a rebuild.
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I am not saying wait and draft some low round guy who never will play.
What I am saying is that if you do not like the options available early in the draft this year, your can wait till next year without embarrassing your franchise. I am taking a high round QB in the next 2 years.
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