Tanaka will be posted

[CSF77]

That is pretty dumb reasoning. Typical

First thing to ask here is: is he better than shark and Wood? Yes.

Does the market feel that he is the best arm? Yes he is holding up 3 100 mil starters. So if the market (scouts not dumb sox fan)decorates Tanaka as better than Garza and higher value than The other two due to giving up a pick. Ya seems that the educated are in agreement that Tanaka has legit 1A to 2 talent.

Let's face it. If the scouts thought that Garza was better he would be off the board. That is reality

 

[daddies3angels]

To me this is a MUST have for Cubs. Theo saids there never a FA for young players. Guess what here is a 25 y/o with front of rotation written all over him. Lets see if Cubs can stop talking and actually do something for change

 

[X]

Signing Tanaka would be par for the Cubs... wasting money on some unproven, overrated player...check. Inexplicably avoiding top MLB FA commodities because they don't want to win now....check. Still claiming to be in "rebuid" mode via the farm system...check. All in all, pretty bizarre, inconsistent organizational strategy.

Typical Cubbie moves that ensure the lovable loser franchise tag for years to come.

This market was ridiculously weak, and the top players were vastly overpaid.Not sure who the Cubs "inexplicably avoided"...

 

[nwfisch]

This market was ridiculously weak, and the top players were vastly overpaid.Not sure who the Cubs "inexplicably avoided"...

Robinson Cano.

 

[CSF77]

Come on. Seattle pulled the same thing that the Cubs did in 2007. Sell the team move and that team looks like shit. Hype move to pump up the sale price.


Now I would have gone after Kaz or traded for Gardner (both ideal). Cubs came into this season lacking a legit OBA/speed lead off type and needed a upgrade over Rusin

Yes they shored up the pen and added a legit RH OF. They added a legit closer. But the major needs were held up by their desire to land Tanaka.

In view of this they have to put out the biggest bid. If they front the 20 mil that puts payroll at 100 mil. I believe they will have to put up 20 mil year 1 to beat the Yanks. It is all in or lose the offseason.

Last thing I want to hear is Cubs quibbling over year 1 cash while the yanks put up 15 mil year 1 and back load and walk with him. When fronting 20 mil would have won it.

 

[CSF77]

Accually if they win the bid and then trade shark for Gardner and ? That would help both teams.

Wouldn't help shark though. Dude would have to a hair cut. :/

 

[Boobaby1]

Nah, sounds like a certain Japanese outfielder that got signed on the northside years ago.

The Sox are pulling the trigger on moves that make the big league team younger AND better NOW, while freeing up salary.

The Cubs, on the other hand, could care less about the big league club or winning games now. Signing Tanaka would be nothing but a PR move, bound to fail because, well you're the Cubs.

Why don't we wait to see if the Cubs can even get him before we evaluate the move?.....Check! Why don't we wait until Tanaka pitches in the Major Leagues before we evaluate him and compare him to Fukudome?.....Check! Why don't we wait until the White Sox are on top of the division instead of getting the 3rd overall pick in the draft versus the Cubs 4th before we start comparing who is in better shape at the parent level right now because they both SUCK!....Check!

 

[jooo83]

Signing Tanaka would be par for the Cubs... wasting money on some unproven, overrated player...check. Inexplicably avoiding top MLB FA commodities because they don't want to win now....check. Still claiming to be in "rebuid" mode via the farm system...check. All in all, pretty bizarre, inconsistent organizational strategy.

Typical Cubbie moves that ensure the lovable loser franchise tag for years to come.

What a joke. If the Sox signed Tanaka homers like this guy would be on here raving about how great of a move it is.

 

[Flacco4Prez]

All I want for Christmas is you!

 

[chibears55]

WEDNESDAY, 3:32pm: Tanaka's posting will begin Thursday morning and be completed by January 24th at 4pm CT, a source tells Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News (on Twitter). Teams can place their bids - up to $20MM, of course - starting tomorrow morning (link).

don't know why they need a whole month for teams to decide if they want to bid for this guy or not, I think by now teams know if they want to go after him or not..a week would of been long enough..

so, now Jan 24th, then they spend a couple days seeing which teams had the highest bid. then they start going to all the teams to negotiate, by the time he chooses a team its gonna be close to the start of ST..

some of the remaining top FAs. might be sitting around til then waiting, because teams wont how much money they have left to spend, or if they have to look for a different starter like Garza, etc. if they lose out on him..

we may not see much more significant transactions til ST..

 

[Boobaby1]

don't know why they need a whole month for teams to decide if they want to bid for this guy or not, I think by now teams know if they want to go after him or not..a week would of been long enough..

so, now Jan 24th, then they spend a couple days seeing which teams had the highest bid. then they start going to all the teams to negotiate, by the time he chooses a team its gonna be close to the start of ST..

some of the remaining top FAs. might be sitting around til then waiting, because teams wont how much money they have left to spend, or if they have to look for a different starter like Garza, etc. if they lose out on him..

we may not see much more significant transactions til ST..

Teams aren't going to wait until he is signed and then move on to a free agent. In fact, this will probably have a reverse effect in that it will jump-start the free agent process. Once one goes, teams like Toronto, Texas, the Angels, and Arizona will start to swallow up the free agents because they want to go into the season ready to go. The Cubs, Dodgers, and the Yankees don't have to make a move one way or the other.

If any of the big three fail to acquire him, their system is pretty much the same just as if Tanaka were never posted. You should see these three teams and maybe a 4th get really aggressive towards signing him, because it is merely money to them.

I think the Cubs will be one of the few , if not the only one to wait on signing Shark. That will be their plan B. If they can somehow ink Tanaka, then all of the pieces will start to fall into place and another team might give the Cubs what they want for Shark.

If the Cubs happen to ink Tanaka and extend Shark, then we will see some major things happening on the North Side for the better and a little more clarity as to the direction they are going.

 

[ChiSoxCity]

Why don't we wait to see if the Cubs can even get him before we evaluate the move?.....Check! Why don't we wait until Tanaka pitches in the Major Leagues before we evaluate him and compare him to Fukudome?.....Check! Why don't we wait until the White Sox are on top of the division instead of getting the 3rd overall pick in the draft versus the Cubs 4th before we start comparing who is in better shape at the parent level right now because they both SUCK!....Check!

Waiting is what Cubs fans do best, so yeah... you guys wait some more. The Pirates will win another championship before the Cubs ever do, and that's freakin pathetic. Check, mate.

Frankly, you're lack of urgency about winning a championship after 105 years disgusts me. If the Sox ever stuck their proverbial head in the dirt like the Cubs have, I would be done with them for a very long time. I guess that's the difference between Cubs fans and the rest of humanity.

 

[Boobaby1]

Waiting is what Cubs fans do best, so yeah... you guys wait some more. The Pirates will win another championship before the Cubs ever do, and that's freakin pathetic. Check, mate.

Frankly, you're lack of urgency about winning a championship after 105 years disgusts me. If the Sox ever stuck their proverbial head in the dirt like the Cubs have, I would be done with them for a very long time. I guess that's the difference between Cubs fans and the rest of humanity.

Ah yes! The lack of urgency that spawned a WS by the White Sox, Red Sox, and Giants that have won 6 WS in the last ten years. Would I like it to go faster? Yes. But I can't, so there! I guess I should have jumped ship with the Bulls, Blackhawks, and Bears also. Whoops!

Sure glad the aforementioned MLB teams were steadfast in their rebuild. Not one was less than 45 years before another WS when they were still in NY, and I do not need to post the Red and White Sox droughts, do I?

 

[chibears55]

now im confused.. watching mlbnetwork and the bottom says that Tanaka can start negotiating with teams today and whomever he chooses will then post the 20 Mil posting fee.

does anyone know how this new process works ? im sure its probably going to cost 20 MIL for Tanaka Fee, but what about a lesser player ? how do they negotiate with teams without knowing who going to bid the highest ? or did MLBnetwork word it wrong ?

 

[SilenceS]

Waiting is what Cubs fans do best, so yeah... you guys wait some more. The Pirates will win another championship before the Cubs ever do, and that's freakin pathetic. Check, mate.

Frankly, you're lack of urgency about winning a championship after 105 years disgusts me. If the Sox ever stuck their proverbial head in the dirt like the Cubs have, I would be done with them for a very long time. I guess that's the difference between Cubs fans and the rest of humanity.

I'm guessing your a bandwagon er white sox fan. There drought was extremely extremely long as well

 

[Boobaby1]

now im confused.. watching mlbnetwork and the bottom says that Tanaka can start negotiating with teams today and whomever he chooses will then post the 20 Mil posting fee.

does anyone know how this new process works ? im sure its probably going to cost 20 MIL for Tanaka Fee, but what about a lesser player ? how do they negotiate with teams without knowing who going to bid the highest ? or did MLBnetwork word it wrong ?

My take is that teams will post today if interested which only a handful will (the serious bidders) and they will have until January 24th to complete the deal. MLB is not going to wait a month before negotiations begin. They will want a final answer by the 24th at 5 PM, not that it will take that long, it's just the deadline.

I expect him to sign with someone in a couple of weeks, and the deal to be finalized in about 3 weeks pending physicals, contract issues and such. Just a guess of course.

 

[chibears55]

Sure glad the aforementioned MLB teams were steadfast in their rebuild. Not one was less than 50 years before another WS, and I do not need to post the Red and White Sox droughts, do I?

LMAO.. most whitesux fans crack me up.. besides lucking their way to a title in 2005, but they won it so congrats.. they have been just as horrible as the cubs getting to the post season over the many many many many many years.. since 1983 sox 5 playoff appearances, cubs 6.. sox on a 5 yr drought, cubs 4 yrs..


Chicago White Sox (8855-8672 W-L, 1901 - 2013) - 3 World Championships, 6 Pennants, and 9 Playoff Appearances
Chicago Cubs (8697-8587 W-L, 1903 - 2013) - 2 World Championships, 10 Pennants, and 16 Playoff Appearances

both teams have had very little to be proud of over the last century, but yet sox fans seem to think that their team/history is better then the cubs but in reality they both suck ass equally..

just curious but do cubs fan go to the sox board and do the same thing there ?

 

[chibears55]

My take is that teams will post today if interested which only a handful will (the serious bidders) and they will have until January 24th to complete the deal. MLB is not going to wait a month before negotiations begin. They will want a final answer by the 24th at 5 PM, not that it will take that long, it's just the deadline.

I expect him to sign with someone in a couple of weeks, and the deal to be finalized in about 3 weeks pending physicals, contract issues and such. Just a guess of course.

that would make more sense

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[brett05]

besides lucking their way to a title in 2005,

I'm sorry,. but what?!?!?!?! You aren't helping the stereotype of Cub fans being dumb.

 

[Capt. Serious]

LMAO.. most whitesux fans crack me up.. besides lucking their way to a title in 2005, but they won it so congrats.. they have been just as horrible as the cubs getting to the post season over the many many many many many years.. since 1983 sox 5 playoff appearances, cubs 6.. sox on a 5 yr drought, cubs 4 yrs..


Chicago White Sox (8855-8672 W-L, 1901 - 2013) - 3 World Championships, 6 Pennants, and 9 Playoff Appearances
Chicago Cubs (8697-8587 W-L, 1903 - 2013) - 2 World Championships, 10 Pennants, and 16 Playoff Appearances

both teams have had very little to be proud of over the last century, but yet sox fans seem to think that their team/history is better then the cubs but in reality they both suck ass equally..

just curious but do cubs fan go to the sox board and do the same thing there ?

White Sux...real original. Lucking our way to a World Series Title?

2005 White Sox were one of the best World Series teams in baseball history.

This is clearly luck..

The White Sox tied with the 2002 Angels for second-best record by a World Series champ this decade (99-63).

The White Sox went wire-to-wire in first place and won the World Series. They're one of only five teams to do that in major league history (1990 Reds, 1984 Tigers, 1955 Dodgers, 1927 Yankees), not to mention the only one to do so during the decade.

They went 11-1 in the postseason, good to be tied for the second-best win percentage in a single postseason since 1969.

They went unbeaten on the road in the postseason, and were the first team to clinch all three of their postseason series on their opponents' home field.

Their 52 road wins in the regular season were the most of any World Series champion in the decade.

Their 3.61 ERA was the best of any World Series champion in the decade.

They hit 200 home runs, not uncommon for a champion during this decade, but they also stole 137 bases, the second-most of any World Series champion in the 2000s.

Here's another good tidbit...

ALCS games 2 through 5 vs Angels, the White Sox had all complete games from their starters.

Yup, clearly luck.