TGDT: 10/18 Blues @ Blackhawks 7:30 CSN

[tvltre]

[quote name="E Runs"]Good, I have to say I want to see Cullimore succeed. As has been mentioned ad nauseam the game completely left him behind after the lockout and he wasn't put in the best position his first go around here. I mean imagine showing up for work and finding out you can no longer do what you were good at? Two years ago when he didn't receive an NHL offer it probably would have been real easy to hang them up but the guy swallowed his pride and signed on to a Rockford tryout. It must have been humbling but from all accounts he was a good soldier down there and has found his way back to the big time.



Who knows how long it will last but if Cullimore somehow ends up playing the year with the Hawks there's your Masterton nominee, and he would fit the requirements to a T.[/quote]



Sorry, I want consistency from my supposed Vets...he had 19 minutes of play in Buffalo. Then here against the Blowjackets...he was the root cause of two goals. If he hadn't fallen behind and left Leddy to take the two on one...the puck doesn't go off the skate.



The second goal. While the blowjacket is sitting in the crease...Culli is doing spins between the circles...only comes over to cross check the guy after the goal is scored.



Now, last night, he makes no mistakes and he is now being mentioned for the Masterton. Sorry, seeing his play this weekend reminded me about why I loved the fact he was out of the indianhead sweater.

 

[Buryit Toews]

Great win last night, getting as many points as possible at home and early is a giant plus.



John Scott can go away now, the most successful type of line against the Blows would have been Skille-Dowell-Stalberg, that line is quick and can chip pucks in and retrieve them. Q said he wanted muscle up front, skille has more hits then Scott. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, put him in the pressbox and give him 3 minutes when he feels like putting something behind his hits, or instead of waiting for someone to drop the gloves maybe he can just start pummeling someone, the Blues seem to like doing that. When he is in the lineup there is no way we can roll 4 lines, thus we can't play our game.



To those wondering why Turco was not given an assist: The only reason he was given an assist was the idiot that is Eddie O said he should get one. The scoring is correct, Turco passed it to Hossa, Hossa then passed it to Seabrook, who then shot it and Hossa buried it. As soon as Hossa touched the puck a second time the secondary assist is eliminated, if Seabs would have scored it would have been assisted by Turco, and Hossa.



Let's play 60 against the Canucks please.



Kopecky - Toews - Hossa

Brouwer - Sharp - Kane

Bickell - Bolland - Pisani

Stalberg - Dowell - Skille



Keith - Seabs

Boynton - Hammer

Hendry - Cullimore (Can't believe I don't mind him out there right now)



Turco



I think we have a much better chance of dictating the play with this lineup, all in all, we are 4 - 2 - 1 and we haven't clicked yet, things are looking up.

 

[Guest]

[quote name="E Runs"]

Good, I have to say I want to see Cullimore succeed. As has been mentioned ad nauseam the game completely left him behind after the lockout and he wasn't put in the best position his first go around here. I mean imagine showing up for work and finding out you can no longer do what you were good at? Two years ago when he didn't receive an NHL offer it probably would have been real easy to hang them up but the guy swallowed his pride and signed on to a Rockford tryout. It must have been humbling but from all accounts he was a good soldier down there and has found his way back to the big time.



Who knows how long it will last but if Cullimore somehow ends up playing the year with the Hawks there's your Masterton nominee, and he would fit the requirements to a T.[/quote]





Like I said his numbers were pretty good in Florida once he left CHicago. In Chicago he was expected to play a role his game was not suited for. Same with Aucoin for that matter.



I'm still not sold on Cullimore BUT I'd take him over Scott or Boynton and there is no reason not to allow him to stay and play if he continues to help and add to the team. His first stint in Chicago was no fun for ANYONE involved.



I do believe they are trying to work out a trade with Leddy's cap space gone.

 

[E Runs]

[quote name="tvltre"]



Sorry, I want consistency from my supposed Vets...he had 19 minutes of play in Buffalo. Then here against the Blowjackets...he was the root cause of two goals. If he hadn't fallen behind and left Leddy to take the two on one...the puck doesn't go off the skate.



The second goal. While the blowjacket is sitting in the crease...Culli is doing spins between the circles...only comes over to cross check the guy after the goal is scored.



Now, last night, he makes no mistakes and he is now being mentioned for the Masterton. Sorry, seeing his play this weekend reminded me about why I loved the fact he was out of the indianhead sweater.[/quote]

Consistency out of the D corps from top to bottom would be nice. Exhibit A: 2 & 7 on Perron's goal.



Obviously if Cullimore's a liability send him the hell down, but I won't apologize for wanting to see the guy do well.

 

[Buryit Toews]

[quote name="E Runs"]

Consistency out of the D corps from top to bottom would be nice. Exhibit A: 2 & 7 on Perron's goal.



Obviously if Cullimore's a liability send him the hell down, but I won't apologize for wanting to see the guy do well.[/quote]



I'll say! Once everyone gets on the same page (read; when Campbell comes back) then I think we have a great unit. Hopefully these guys can find some sort of consistency, and I think that starts with the same lineup night in and night out.

 

[Guest]

[quote name="tvltre"]



Sorry, I want consistency from my supposed Vets...he had 19 minutes of play in Buffalo. Then here against the Blowjackets...he was the root cause of two goals. If he hadn't fallen behind and left Leddy to take the two on one...the puck doesn't go off the skate.



The second goal. While the blowjacket is sitting in the crease...Culli is doing spins between the circles...only comes over to cross check the guy after the goal is scored.



Now, last night, he makes no mistakes and he is now being mentioned for the Masterton. Sorry, seeing his play this weekend reminded me about why I loved the fact he was out of the indianhead sweater.[/quote]



Come on Tony. No one is saying anything other than his play has definitely been a suprise. If your hate can't have you open your eyes, we'll help you.



Seeing his play in the three games he's played in, the team going 3-0 in those games, makes me glad there is a Vet that can contribute. I am in no way a Cullimore fans BUT his play on the ice has been better than that of THREE OTHER DEFENDERS on this team.

 

[Rex]

[quote name="Buryit Toews!"]Great win last night, getting as many points as possible at home and early is a giant plus.



John Scott can go away now, the most successful type of line against the Blows would have been Skille-Dowell-Stalberg, that line is quick and can chip pucks in and retrieve them. Q said he wanted muscle up front, skille has more hits then Scott. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, put him in the pressbox and give him 3 minutes when he feels like putting something behind his hits, or instead of waiting for someone to drop the gloves maybe he can just start pummeling someone, the Blues seem to like doing that. When he is in the lineup there is no way we can roll 4 lines, thus we can't play our game.



To those wondering why Turco was not given an assist: The only reason he was given an assist was the idiot that is Eddie O said he should get one. The scoring is correct, Turco passed it to Hossa, Hossa then passed it to Seabrook, who then shot it and Hossa buried it. As soon as Hossa touched the puck a second time the secondary assist is eliminated, if Seabs would have scored it would have been assisted by Turco, and Hossa.



Let's play 60 against the Canucks please.



Kopecky - Toews - Hossa

Brouwer - Sharp - Kane

Bickell - Bolland - Pisani

Stalberg - Dowell - Skille



Keith - Seabs

Boynton - Hammer

Hendry - Cullimore (Can't believe I don't mind him out there right now)



Turco



I think we have a much better chance of dictating the play with this lineup, all in all, we are 4 - 2 - 1 and we haven't clicked yet, things are looking up.[/quote]



I would be much happier with a third line of Bickell-Bolland-Skille

 

[Tater]

[quote name="R K"]

I do believe they are trying to work out a trade with Leddy's cap space gone.[/quote]



Ohh? Do tell.

 

[PatrickShart]

I think there were alot of people that think it was Hjarllmarsson that made Campbell better - I think it's the opposite. And I've always thought Campbell makes the whole Dgroup better.



His first year here - he was paired with Walker or Barker the majority of the time. Neither of those 2 were quick enough to keep up with him. If anyone knows anything about outlets for D partners, watch when he was with those 2 and the times he would try to reverse the play and neither were there and he had to do too much.



Putting him with the quicker Hjarllmarsson suits Soupy's skill level - and Nik was a rookie last year. As much as people praise Nik - it's more kudos to Campbell to be able to adjust and play with a rookie.

 

[The Count Dante]

[quote name="pmxc12873"]I think there were alot of people that think it was Hjarllmarsson that made Campbell better - I think it's the opposite. And I've always thought Campbell makes the whole Dgroup better.



His first year here - he was paired with Walker or Barker the majority of the time. Neither of those 2 were quick enough to keep up with him. If anyone knows anything about outlets for D partners, watch when he was with those 2 and the times he would try to reverse the play and neither were there and he had to do too much.



Putting him with the quicker Hjarllmarsson suits Soupy's skill level - and Nik was a rookie last year. As much as people praise Nik - it's more kudos to Campbell to be able to adjust and play with a rookie.[/quote]



Soup is certainly a unique player I think. But he is certainly a threat. Without Soup, the offense can get flat. I think he is a perfect compliment with Hj because Hj has a more stay at home mentality and both of them have the speed to recover from any errors or odd bounces.



I compare Soup to a good lead off hitter in baseball... He wont get the grand slams or huge cracks at the bat, but he will get on base and give the team a chance to score. That is what Soup does in my opinion.

 

[Guest]

[quote name="pmxc12873"]I think there were alot of people that think it was Hjarllmarsson that made Campbell better - I think it's the opposite. And I've always thought Campbell makes the whole Dgroup better.



His first year here - he was paired with Walker or Barker the majority of the time. Neither of those 2 were quick enough to keep up with him. If anyone knows anything about outlets for D partners, watch when he was with those 2 and the times he would try to reverse the play and neither were there and he had to do too much.



Putting him with the quicker Hjarllmarsson suits Soupy's skill level - and Nik was a rookie last year. As much as people praise Nik - it's more kudos to Campbell to be able to adjust and play with a rookie.[/quote]





Having Campbell back will in turn allow them to bring Keith and Seabrooks TOI down. Right now they are just on the too much to be consistent. THe more ice time they get the sloppier their game will become.

 

[tvltre]

[quote name="R K"]

Come on Tony. No one is saying anything other than his play has definitely been a suprise. If your hate can't have you open your eyes, we'll help you.



Seeing his play in the three games he's played in, the team going 3-0 in those games, makes me glad there is a Vet that can contribute. I am in no way a Cullimore fans BUT his play on the ice has been better than that of THREE OTHER DEFENDERS on this team.[/quote]



It's not the hate, its the fact that he still cannot skate in the league and not in position. however, the entire D corps last night was out of position, turning over the puck in their zone, letting the forwards get by them without any contact, and allowing so many odd man breaks it was sick.



Lastly, you mention the last three games which the Hawks have allowed 32, 41 and 34 shots on goal. The Hawks have allowed an average of 33 shots on goal the first 7 games this season. The D was known for being a shut down force that allowed few shots. Now, it's freaking guns a blazing.



I know we are missing Campbell...by golly, I can't wait til he gets back!

 

[PatrickShart]

By the way...when do we start the Tomas Kopecky Appreciation Thread?

 

[Buryit Toews]

[quote name="Rex"]



I would be much happier with a third line of Bickell-Bolland-Skille[/quote]



I'd be okay with that too, the Hawks play a speed game, that is one of their biggest advantages over other clubs. How can you sit Skille and or Stalberg and play Scott?

 

[Buryit Toews]

[quote name="pmxc12873"]By the way...when do we start the Tomas Kopecky Appreciation Thread?[/quote]



I've been very impressed by his compete level, he is playing very hard out there.

 

[LordKOTL]

While I'm not on The Cullimore bandwagon...credit where credit is due on that play. It was just one play of one game and I doubt he'll continue to play the way he has. Further, I hope he does make me eat my words.



That being said, Someone get Sharp, Hossa, Turco, and Crawford a chiropractor--their backs must be killing them for carrying the team.

 

[bubbleheadchief]

[quote name="pmxc12873"]By the way...when do we start the Tomas Kopecky Appreciation Thread?[/quote]

Too many people still seem to think he doesnt "deserve" to be on that line.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

[quote name="pmxc12873"]By the way...when do we start the Tomas Kopecky Appreciation Thread?[/quote]



I think there was one on the old boards lol

 

[Guest]

[quote name="Stu Grimson"]



I think there was one on the old boards lol[/quote]



There are a LOT of folks eating crow on the Kopecky for front. A LOT!

 

[Maiden]

[quote name="pmxc12873"]I think there were alot of people that think it was Hjarllmarsson that made Campbell better - I think it's the opposite. And I've always thought Campbell makes the whole Dgroup better.



His first year here - he was paired with Walker or Barker the majority of the time. Neither of those 2 were quick enough to keep up with him. If anyone knows anything about outlets for D partners, watch when he was with those 2 and the times he would try to reverse the play and neither were there and he had to do too much.



Putting him with the quicker Hjarllmarsson suits Soupy's skill level - and Nik was a rookie last year. As much as people praise Nik - it's more kudos to Campbell to be able to adjust and play with a rookie.[/quote]



DING DING DING DING..............WE HAVE A WINNER