TGDT: WCF Game 4 - 5/26 Blackhawks (1) @ Kings (2) 8:00 PM CST NBCSN

[Shantz My Pants]

The 2nd goal on the PP all comes back to Q's mentality that the defensemen need to be INFRONT of the guys in front of the net, to block shots. Essentially left Dustin Brown all on his own.

 

[PatrickShart]

There are a lot of teams that have gone to that - I belive NJ and DET were the first...since tying guys up front/boarders with interference at times.  A lot of NHL goalies as well say they'd rather fight through one screen, but when a Dman is there "tying a guy up", can cause 2 screens - as well as keeping a Dman from moving/getting to the puck if it's loose</p>

 

[TSD]

I am starting to wonder how we won that first game....</p>

 

[Shantz My Pants]

I don't mind it, but for fucksake at least be near the open guy you're not watching. Brown was more than a sticks length away from Seabs and as soon as he got the puck he had plenty of time to bury it back door.

 

[Pez68]

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There are a lot of teams that have gone to that - I belive NJ and DET were the first...since tying guys up front/boarders with interference at times.  A lot of NHL goalies as well say they'd rather fight through one screen, but when a Dman is there "tying a guy up", can cause 2 screens - as well as keeping a Dman from moving/getting to the puck if it's loose</p>
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How is the defenseman being in front of the forward....not 2 screens as well? It's no different, and actually worse if you ask me.. Most goalies will tell you that you better block the shot, or get the **** out of the way. If you're trying to block the shot, you're in the goalie's way. If you're a defenseman trying to block the shot, you're leaving the opposing forward behind you, who can setup right in the goalie's kitchen unmolested, as we saw with Carter planting his ass right in Crawford's face last night.</p>


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It's a horrible strategy because, as we've seen, it allows opposing forwards free reign to screen the goalie and pounce on any rebounds. That strategy has never been effective for the Hawks. Their PK and defensive zone play is most effective when they are being aggressive at the points, blocking shots with their forwards, and tying guys up in front of the net. The best defensive teams aren't using their defense to block shots. They are using the forwards to pressure the points and their defense is clearing out the front of the net and tying guys up.</p>


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Their strategy is not working and LA has figured it out 100%. Hawks aren't winning this series unless they adjust and start taking away those uncontested shots from the point and clearing guys out in front.</p>

 

[PatrickShart]

They have to do a better job of not letting shots through - like they did last year when they won the cup and had the best pk in the playoffs. And like they were doing for the first 13 2/3 games of the playoffs this year when they were the best pk unit then.

 

[puckjim]

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They have to do a better job of not letting shots through - like they did last year when they won the cup and had the best pk in the playoffs. And like they were doing for the first 13 2/3 games of the playoffs this year when they were the best pk unit then.</p>
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Yep, because it's plain and clear that they won't stop with the lazy, selfish, non-defensive zone penalties.</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Thanks for really changing things up by making the gdt, wolfienuts.

 

[PatrickShart]

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Yep, because it's plain and clear that they won't stop with the lazy, selfish, non-defensive zone penalties.</p>
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Yep...Rosival, Shaw and Sharp</p>

 

[puckjim]

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Yep...Rosival, Shaw and Sharp</p>
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Handzus and Bollig.</p>


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There is nothing that makes me crazier than offensive zone penalties.</p>

 

[Pez68]

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They have to do a better job of not letting shots through - like they did last year when they won the cup and had the best pk in the playoffs. And like they were doing for the first 13 2/3 games of the playoffs this year when they were the best pk unit then.</p>
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Most players in the NHL are going to get a shot through from the point when they have 10 feet and all day with the puck. They have to be more aggressive on the points. When they have been successful, that's why.</p>

 

[Shantz My Pants]

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Most players in the NHL are going to get a shot through from the point when they have 10 feet and all day with the puck. They have to be more aggressive on the points. When they have been successful, that's why.</p></blockquote>


That's a tough call to make, considering Sharp fucked up his assignment. Had Sharp read that Toews was taking the Dman, he should of taken the middle of the ice. Dmen aren't typically left as wide open as Muzzin was.

 

[Pez68]

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That's a tough call to make, considering Sharp fucked up his assignment. Had Sharp read that Toews was taking the Dman, he should of taken the middle of the ice. Dmen aren't typically left as wide open as Muzzin was.</p>
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I'm just saying in general. The Hawks just don't pressure the points nearly enough and it has killed them.</p>

 

[the canadian dream]

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I'm just saying in general. The Hawks just don't pressure the points nearly enough and it has killed them.</p>
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Actually Pez...you are 100% correct it has indeed been another problem. hawks have let the Kings blueliners take a lot of control of the games. It should have been the other way around this series which initially appeared to be the case in game one and half way through game 2. Blues had the same problem with the Hawks blueliners in the first series now it's been the Hawks allowing the Kings blueliners way too much time and space.</p>

 

[CLWolf81]

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Thanks for really changing things up by making the gdt, wolfienuts.</p>
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Look it was 5pm and it wasn't done. Wtf do you expect? -.- </p>

 

[cplmac]

Looking forward to the slaughter tonight.