The 2025 Offensive Tackle Market & why it might suck for the Bears

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He was really bad. I wish him the best, but he didn’t look anywhere near even a baseline level. He didn’t look like he belongs in the league.

But hey, who would’ve thought this may be the case when you spend a 3rd on a player from Yale?
So you don't think a 3rd round pick from Yale who missed all of training camp and preseason and has only played in two games this year where he's been thrown to the wolves both times wouldn't take time to get better at what he does? You think what you see now is what he'll always be and he has no chance at getting better?
 

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So you don't think a 3rd round pick from Yale who missed all of training camp and preseason and has only played ion two games this year where he's been thrown to the wolves both times would take time to get better at what he does? You think what you see now is what he'll always be and he has no chance at getting better?
Im not the person you responded to, and I generally think its foolish to assume Kiran wont get better. But focusing specifically on this upcoming offseason, the Bears have to go through the draft and most of FA before they get a chance to see him in camp so what he puts on film now is basically the only thing they can safely assume he will be next season in terms of making decisions on what to do at tackle.

So while yes you do know he'll get better as his career goes on - for the Bears deciding what to do at swing tackle in the '25 offseason they have to assume you're only getting what you saw in these last few games. Hopefully dont have to tell you (or anyone else) that means find another option.
 

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Amegadjie is coming off of a major surgery, he’s from a lesser football program playing against lesser competition.

He isn’t ready, and he never was expected to be ready this year. Him playing and not getting help was shades of putting fields in against Cleveland.

He’s not built like a guard, he shouldn’t just be forced to play guard before getting a shot at tackle just because the bears have injuries and no one else to play.

Just sit him the rest of the year with plans for him to prepare to compete for starting tackle job next year.
 

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So you don't think a 3rd round pick from Yale who missed all of training camp and preseason and has only played in two games this year where he's been thrown to the wolves both times wouldn't take time to get better at what he does? You think what you see now is what he'll always be and he has no chance at getting better?

I've seen plenty of late round picks called into action - I have never seen one as bad as kiran.

His problems are both physical and technique at the moment. His technique is complete ass, you basically drafted a giant project with a high 3rd round pick.
 

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Amegadjie is coming off of a major surgery, he’s from a lesser football program playing against lesser competition.

He isn’t ready, and he never was expected to be ready this year. Him playing and not getting help was shades of putting fields in against Cleveland.

He’s not built like a guard, he shouldn’t just be forced to play guard before getting a shot at tackle just because the bears have injuries and no one else to play.

Just sit him the rest of the year with plans for him to prepare to compete for starting tackle job next year.

He should never have been drafted by the bears for the reasons you listed.

Thats a move a team like the lions make to potentially replace decker in a few years, or potentially move inside.

I agree, the plan was always to redshirt him. Thats a stupid as **** move for a team with a bunch of holes when you didnt have a 2nd round pick...
 

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He should never have been drafted by the bears for the reasons you listed.

Thats a move a team like the lions make to potentially replace decker in a few years, or potentially move inside.

I agree, the plan was always to redshirt him. Thats a stupid as **** move for a team with a bunch of holes when you didnt have a 2nd round pick...
He was drafted to replace Braxton. That was the entire point of the pick. Only in ccs la la land would they think to have him play guard.

Poles got bates, took a flier on bill murray, and then of course Pryor, to back up Nate Davis and teven. On paper that’s a lot of guys to fill 2 spots, but we all know how that went.

Yea, who knows where kiran would’ve went. It was stupid to take him in round 3 considering the bears situation. That being said, you shouldn’t force a young prospect to play before he’s ready because you reached to take him and fucked up with every other OL decision.
 

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So you don't think a 3rd round pick from Yale who missed all of training camp and preseason and has only played in two games this year where he's been thrown to the wolves both times wouldn't take time to get better at what he does? You think what you see now is what he'll always be and he has no chance at getting better?
I hope he does. It would be hard for him to get much worse. My problem is that he was picked in the 3rd round. I understand he was always a developmental player based on traits, and that’s fine. That’s what 6th and 7th round picks are for. Call me old-fashioned, but I expect a starter, or at worst a high-level backup, with a 3rd round pick.

That pick brought back the nightmare of Ryan Pace.
 

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I hope he does. It would be hard for him to get much worse. My problem is that he was picked in the 3rd round. I understand he was always a developmental player based on traits, and that’s fine. That’s what 6th and 7th round picks are for. Call me old-fashioned, but I expect a starter, or at worst a high-level backup, with a 3rd round pick.

That pick brought back the nightmare of Ryan Pace.

Exactly this. Moron drafted a punter with a 4th and a redshirt offensive lineman with a 3rd.

Guy really was cocky as **** thinking this roster was great.
 

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I am friends with a retired NFL offensive lineman, played for almost 10 years. He told me the most important thing about an offensive line is continuity week after week, building trust together as a unit.

I can't imagine the last time the Bears had the same offensive line 3 weeks in a row.
This has been known for many many years but somehow it gets forgotten on CCS when everyone is on here telling us all who can and can't play where and where the OL that will be drafted in April can and can't play on the OL in the NFL.

We need guys that have shown good health and build continuity across our OL.
 

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Im not the person you responded to, and I generally think its foolish to assume Kiran wont get better. But focusing specifically on this upcoming offseason, the Bears have to go through the draft and most of FA before they get a chance to see him in camp so what he puts on film now is basically the only thing they can safely assume he will be next season in terms of making decisions on what to do at tackle.

So while yes you do know he'll get better as his career goes on - for the Bears deciding what to do at swing tackle in the '25 offseason they have to assume you're only getting what you saw in these last few games. Hopefully dont have to tell you (or anyone else) that means find another option.
Agree with most but i'm absolutely not assuming we will get the Kiren i saw two weeks ago next season after he gets an offseason, training camp and preseason to work on his game. I'm assuming we will get a better Kiren for the 2025 season.
 

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Agree with most but i'm absolutely not assuming we will get the Kiren i saw two weeks ago next season after he gets an offseason, training camp and preseason to work on his game. I'm assuming we will get a better Kiren for the 2025 season.

It's kiran, and who knows.

He played vs. doctors and lawyers at yale. Guy was drafted essentially for his outrageously long neanderthal arms and not as much his technique.

Guy i believe had the 12th longest arms for an offensive lineman since like 1997 or some shit.

I dont really have faith he will be anything better than a backup, but hard to judge any player this year considering there is no coaching or culture on the 2024 bears.

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Amegadjie's arms measured out to be 36 1/8" (tied for 10th longest at the NFL Combine since 1999) and his wingspan measured 85 4/8" (seventh-longest at the NFL Combine since 1999) according to Chris Trapasso of CBS Sports.Apr 27, 2024
 

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I've seen plenty of late round picks called into action - I have never seen one as bad as kiran.

His problems are both physical and technique at the moment. His technique is complete ass, you basically drafted a giant project with a high 3rd round pick.
He was thrown in for his first ever start at LT against a team that is probably top 3 in the NFL at blitzing. You haven't seen that plenty of times and probably not at all.
 

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He was drafted to replace Braxton. That was the entire point of the pick. Only in ccs la la land would they think to have him play guard.

Poles got bates, took a flier on bill murray, and then of course Pryor, to back up Nate Davis and teven. On paper that’s a lot of guys to fill 2 spots, but we all know how that went.

Yea, who knows where kiran would’ve went. It was stupid to take him in round 3 considering the bears situation. That being said, you shouldn’t force a young prospect to play before he’s ready because you reached to take him and fucked up with every other OL decision.
But he saw Flus on the golf course and told Flus he was going to draft him. Poles had to do it for that reason alone.
 

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Agree with most but i'm absolutely not assuming we will get the Kiren i saw two weeks ago next season after he gets an offseason, training camp and preseason to work on his game. I'm assuming we will get a better Kiren for the 2025 season.
Sure as I mentioned you expect him to be better, but are you going to pencil him in as your swing tackle because of projected growth you expect him to go through? The answer of course is NO. Thats really what im referring to, you have to build the team assuming he wont be meaningfully better and its a very pleasant surprise if he somehow sees playtime and looks good. If the Bears go into '25 with Amegadjie as OT3 that's a massive gamble and a team building failure in my opinion.
 

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I hope he does. It would be hard for him to get much worse. My problem is that he was picked in the 3rd round. I understand he was always a developmental player based on traits, and that’s fine. That’s what 6th and 7th round picks are for. Call me old-fashioned, but I expect a starter, or at worst a high-level backup, with a 3rd round pick.

That pick brought back the nightmare of Ryan Pace.
His feet are so incredibly slow. I felt that way watching his Yale highlights too which surprised me reading scouting reports saying he moves well. Dude looks like a well below average athlete. Again, hopefully that's related to his injury and lack of rehab time
 

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Sure as I mentioned you expect him to be better, but are you going to pencil him in as your swing tackle because of projected growth you expect him to go through? The answer of course is NO. Thats really what im referring to, you have to build the team assuming he wont be meaningfully better and its a very pleasant surprise if he somehow sees playtime and looks good. If the Bears go into '25 with Amegadjie as OT3 that's a massive gamble and a team building failure in my opinion.
They'll make those decisions after training camp and preseason games. He'll be going against other tackles they bring in and see who wins that OT3 job.
 

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They'll make those decisions after training camp and preseason games. He'll be going against other tackles they bring in and see who wins that OT3 job.
Draft and 90%+ of Free Agency happens before training camp and preseason - Bears have to bring in someone that's capable of being OT3 (IE not a vet min journeyman or day 3 pick). Attention to detail.
 

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He was thrown in for his first ever start at LT against a team that is probably top 3 in the NFL at blitzing. You haven't seen that plenty of times and probably not at all.

Dunno,

Legit see tackles go down all the time in games and team put in backups and they hold up fine for the most part.


More-so hurts because two OL who look solid(DJ Glaze, RT, and Domick Puni - RG) were taken only a few picks later.
 

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