The 2025 Offensive Tackle Market & why it might suck for the Bears

[UChiLAbear]

Amegadjie is coming off of a major surgery, he’s from a lesser football program playing against lesser competition.

He isn’t ready, and he never was expected to be ready this year. Him playing and not getting help was shades of putting fields in against Cleveland.

He’s not built like a guard, he shouldn’t just be forced to play guard before getting a shot at tackle just because the bears have injuries and no one else to play.

Just sit him the rest of the year with plans for him to prepare to compete for starting tackle job next year.

The RG for the Ravens isn't built like a G. Isn't he 6'8" and 380 lbs.? As Zvbxrpl basically said...paraphrazing....it's a different era and you get guys who can play and find them a positon. Forget the 'image' of a position.....Bill Walsh proved this w/ the 9ers.....they had T playing G because of their pass blocking abilities.

 

[UChiLAbear]

I've seen plenty of late round picks called into action - I have never seen one as bad as kiran.

His problems are both physical and technique at the moment. His technique is complete ass, you basically drafted a giant project with a high 3rd round pick.

I wonder if missing Training Camp has anything to do with his lack of Technique at this point. Once the season starts that training is out da window. They are working on next game prep.

 

[dreadpirateroberts]

I'm trading down, not up. Abdul is going to go before the Bears pick. The only other defensive player I would be interested in is Graham, but it’s also dependent on what defensive scheme their next coach wants. I'm not going to spend another high round pick on a rb, when we have swift already with Roschon Johnson. I was pounding the table for saquon, but we are where we are.

They are in no position to be spending a high end pick on a running back when the trenches are in shambles. Maybe they consider it next year IF the lines are actually fixed and Swift is gone

 

[UChiLAbear]

He was drafted to replace Braxton. That was the entire point of the pick. Only in ccs la la land would they think to have him play guard.

Poles got bates, took a flier on bill murray, and then of course Pryor, to back up Nate Davis and teven. On paper that’s a lot of guys to fill 2 spots, but we all know how that went.

Yea, who knows where kiran would’ve went. It was stupid to take him in round 3 considering the bears situation. That being said, you shouldn’t force a young prospect to play before he’s ready because you reached to take him and fucked up with every other OL decision.

I believe K man was projected to be a 2nd Rd pick before his injury.

 

[UChiLAbear]

It's kiran, and who knows.

He played vs. doctors and lawyers at yale. Guy was drafted essentially for his outrageously long neanderthal arms and not as much his technique.

Guy i believe had the 12th longest arms for an offensive lineman since like 1997 or some shit.

I dont really have faith he will be anything better than a backup, but hard to judge any player this year considering there is no coaching or culture on the 2024 bears.

Edit: Found the stat:


Amegadjie's arms measured out to be 36 1/8" (tied for 10th longest at the NFL Combine since 1999) and his wingspan measured 85 4/8" (seventh-longest at the NFL Combine since 1999) according to Chris Trapasso of CBS Sports.Apr 27, 2024

It's not where a person is from, it's the person himself. Gary Fencik is from Yale. Calvin Hill. Both SB Champs. If you remember SB XLI the U of Penn had the most reps of any school. Roger Staubach, Rothlesberger (sp), Bill Wade, Bob Hayes and I'm sure many more NFL Champions were from small programs.

 

[dreadpirateroberts]

The RG for the Ravens isn't built like a G. Isn't he 6'8" and 380 lbs.? As Zvbxrpl basically said...paraphrazing....it's a different era and you get guys who can play and find them a positon. Forget the 'image' of a position.....Bill Walsh proved this w/ the 9ers.....they had T playing G because of their pass blocking abilities.

He is most likely playing guard because guys his size don’t usually have the foot speed and recovery skills to play tackle. Dawand Jones in Cleveland is another example of that too. You can have the long arms, but if you don’t have the athleticism, then you are probably going to struggle playing tackle

 

[UChiLAbear]

I mean, DJ Glaze didnt give up a pressure to tj watt. Think it was the first time tj watt didnt have a pressure since 2018. So there is that. Taken 2 picks after kiran. He's not amazing either but been better than kiran.

I think poles just reached for a bust again, but its still a long time to know.

Kiran's just kinda a wasted pick at this point. You cant depend on him to be your swing tackle next year(That would be insane), so you essentially spent a high 3rd round pick on a guy who is going to be your 4th tackle in 2025.

Do you have any insight to what stocks to invest in next year?

 

[UChiLAbear]

He is most likely playing guard because guys his size don’t usually have the foot speed and recovery skills to play tackle. Dawand Jones in Cleveland is another example of that too. You can have the long arms, but if you don’t have the athleticism, then you are probably going to struggle playing tackle

Thanks for strengthening my position.

 

[bamainatlanta]

I’m not sure I’d have Ronnie Stanley as a FA target. He’ll be 31 and hasn’t played a full season due to injury, although this might be the year he finally does. He also has committed more penalties and given up more pressures than Braxton this year. I’m not sure I’d be wanting to pay him $25+ million.

If you want to go the FA route for LT, then I’d rather focus on Alaric Jackson instead. He’ll be 27 and has statistically had a better season than both Jones and Stanley.

He had some crazy 5 penalties in the 1st game due to that rule change.

 

[SugarWalls]

I believe K man was projected to be a 2nd Rd pick before his injury.

I’m kinda talking after injury though

 

[bears51/40]

Some QB who isn’t Sanders or Ward will shoot up boards during the pre draft process. It happens every year. The question is will they be there when the Bears are picking and will somebody be willing to move up to take him?

If that is the case, it probably would be Milroe or Ewers. Hope it happens, that would give the Bears a shot at Abdul Carter or Mason Graham.

 

[gallagher]

They are in no position to be spending a high end pick on a running back when the trenches are in shambles. Maybe they consider it next year IF the lines are actually fixed and Swift is gone

the only way I would deviate from this is if a RB looks to be an excellent pass blocker and receiver. That is something that would very much be worth adding to the team with, say, a third round pick.

 

[UChiLAbear]

the only way I would deviate from this is if a RB looks to be an excellent pass blocker and receiver. That is something that would very much be worth adding to the team with, say, a third round pick.

Agree w/u...nothing before a 3rd.

 

[bamainatlanta]

If that is the case, it probably would be Milroe or Ewers. Hope it happens, that would give the Bears a shot at Abdul Carter or Mason Graham.

Ewers ain’t moving up. Rumors are that he might stay in college and transfer out because it’s Arch’s turn. Ewers needs to sit a few years in the pro’s.

Milroe would be one stupid pick. He’s best as a mid rounder that can develop, I do like his preference for throwing deep but he’s a mess overall as a QB. But teams do always overvalue QBs in the draft.

 

[msadows]

Ewers ain’t moving up. Rumors are that he might stay in college and transfer out because it’s Arch’s turn. Ewers needs to sit a few years in the pro’s.

Milroe would be one stupid pick. He’s best as a mid rounder that can develop, I do like his preference for throwing deep but he’s a mess overall as a QB. But teams do always overvalue QBs in the draft.

Shit, ARich couldnt even play qb at florida and still cant play qb in the nfl and went top 5 lol

 

[UChiLAbear]

Ewers ain’t moving up. Rumors are that he might stay in college and transfer out because it’s Arch’s turn. Ewers needs to sit a few years in the pro’s.

Milroe would be one stupid pick. He’s best as a mid rounder that can develop, I do like his preference for throwing deep but he’s a mess overall as a QB. But teams do always overvalue QBs in the draft.

Imo Ewers will be a good NFL QB at best. Only Cleveland, Jets or Bears are stupid enough to draft him in the 1st.

 

[I Just Want To Read]

I do not mind trading a draft pick in the way that Poles acquired Sweat. The draft pick sent out returned a starting player at a vital position, whom the team can rely on for the next four years. Is there a trade target that anyone can point to?

Nah it's a dummy move because it costs you a premium pick plus all the cap space.

It's ok if you're getting a true top dude but we'd more likely get the tackle equivalent of M. Sweatt (i.e. solid starter).

We're better off paying up for Stanley or Robinson. Or drafting a tackle with one of our first 3 picks).

 

[hyatt151]

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Membou is definitely a name to keep an eye on. Guard is probably his best spot in the NFL, but some believe he’s got the arm length and athleticism to play tackle. He’s the type of prospect that you pick and figure out it later because he’ll be starting somewhere on this line

earning a starting spot on the bears OL is like show up and put a helmet on and you're in

 

[gallagher]

Nah it's a dummy move because it costs you a premium pick plus all the cap space.

It's ok if you're getting a true top dude but we'd more likely get the tackle equivalent of M. Sweatt (i.e. solid starter).

We're better off paying up for Stanley or Robinson. Or drafting a tackle with one of our first 3 picks).

In the draft, spending a second round pick nets you four years of someone that has good odds of being a quality starter, but not likely to be some X factor. That is what I expect, anyway. Gordon was a good investment of 2nd round pick, he is a top notch DB who is a starter, but does not play in a way that takes over the game somehow, and in game he is a consistent contributor. The odds are against you that you will net a Jaylon Johnson, who was not the top DB he is today when drafted, but worked his way into that status. Sweat, therefore, is also a good investment of a second rounder, as we expect to get 4 years out of him and KNOW that he is a quality starter. I like trading down in the first round when there isn't someone you expect to dramatically change the future of your team to net more second and third rounders, because you then have more bites at the apple to get quality starters. Well, I will take a guaranteed hit over a dice roll any day, when the price is right.

From a money perspective, the price is closer to a "true level" over the FA price, as you are not bidding against other teams and adding a few extra M to that price tag. Is it as good as a rookie's wage from a salary cap standpoint? Hell no, but you are exchanging that for a higher likelihood of a payout, and so doing it when you have extra second-day picks seems like a solid strategy to spread out your risk pool. The only thing you lose out on are add on contracts after the one that brought them in. Where a rookie still has four years until their thirties, and a guy like Sweat will be on two year deals while the team watches to see when he experiences a decline.

Sorry to send you a book but your name tells me that you like to read . Sending a 2nd rounder (or, hell, what can you get if we dangle a first out there as trade bait? I really dont know the market) for a LT gives you a better guarantee that you are keeping Caleb Williams clean. And unlike Stanley or Robinson, such a player can't decide to take a pay cut to just go to a super bowl contender.

 

[bearsfan1977]

Abdul Carter, Mason Graham, and Walter Nolen are my top 3 I hope they target.

Sleeper pick is Josh Simmons. Only issue with him is the medicals. I think Banks and Campbell both kick inside. Simmons is the best pure LT in the draft, imo.

Wyatt Milum is also going to be very good. Versatile. Reminds me of Graham Barton.