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remydat

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It’s coming but I’m curious to why QB W/L records only matter for a select few. Is Caleb a loser now?
Who blamed Fields for wins and losses his rookie year?

Now in your 3rd year when you are the worst 4th quarter QB in the NFL then yes wins and losses may be your fault.
 

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It's the ownership, but I voted QB because after we keep the ownership and the ownership keeps the HC and GM the fans will turn on the QB.
 

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Who blamed Fields for wins and losses his rookie year?

Now in your 3rd year when you are the worst 4th quarter QB in the NFL then yes wins and losses may be your fault.
That’s a dumb argument. QB W/L aren’t real regardless of seniority. I can easily blame each loss on Caleb but I’m not dumb enough to do so
 

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The people that point out the win/loss record of Justin Fields in Chicago always conveniently leave out the fact of Ryan Poles and Flus purposely trying to lose for tanking purposes. They also conveniently leave out the fact that Flus is responsible for losing the Bears 3 games last season after Justin had us in the lead during the 4th quarter. Those 3 losses kept Justin from leading the Bears to a playoff berth.
 

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That’s a dumb argument. QB W/L aren’t real regardless of seniority. I can easily blame each loss on Caleb but I’m not dumb enough to do so

I did not say anything about QB W/L record. I said if you are terrible in the 4th as a QB then wins and losses may be your fault.

Fields was trash in the 4th in Year 3. That clearly had an effect on wins and losses.
 

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This is all Audrey Bitoni's fault.
 

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I did not say anything about QB W/L record. I said if you are terrible in the 4th as a QB then wins and losses may be your fault.

Fields was trash in the 4th in Year 3. That clearly had an effect on wins and losses.
But I did so stop responding if you don’t know the argument
 

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But I did so stop responding if you don’t know the argument
Yes and I told you most really did not blame him his rookie year. Fields had most fans behind him for most of his 3 years here.
 

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Yes and I told you most really did not blame him his rookie year. Fields had most fans behind him for most of his 3 years here.
Think there’s a lot of differences . Caleb was set up to succeed his rookie year while Fields wasn’t even supposed to play. Playoffs was a serious scenario this year, it wasn’t Fields rookie year. I can go on and on
 

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Caleb was set up to succeed his rookie yea


No he wasn't. Not with this oline.
And what's funny is Poles was likely avoiding oline to A) tank and B) appease Flus' wishes. Now we have Williams and what looks like no oline so we're still a good 2-3 years away from protecting the QB.

Sure Williams could get the ball out a lot faster but that's still not going to cut it when he has free rushers from any number of places.

But we tanked and didn't get an oline to give them an excuse to keep a mediocre QB. Yay!
 

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Of course the coach and OC have been bad. But this roster was highly overrated during the offseason - even the WRs & secondary.

And too many guys are constantly injured. (I doubt it's the training staff.) Nothing looks easy for the offense. Every possession is killed by a sack, an overthrow, a dropped ball that hit the receivers' hands, penalties, ran the wrong route, bad play call, trick play that backfires or is completely blown up...etc
 

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No he wasn't. Not with this oline.
And what's funny is Poles was likely avoiding oline to A) tank and B) appease Flus' wishes. Now we have Williams and what looks like no oline so we're still a good 2-3 years away from protecting the QB.

Sure Williams could get the ball out a lot faster but that's still not going to cut it when he has free rushers from any number of places.

But we tanked and didn't get an oline to give them an excuse to keep a mediocre QB. Yay!

According to the experts here and even in the media the OL was an issue because of the QB. As long as Williams gets rid of the ball in whatever time like Bagent the OL would be serviceable
 

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Ok so you saying McDaniels for HC and Mac at QB? Makes sense.

You would only think that if you completely ignored my other post that you actually quoted.

McDaniels for HC would be a bad move, he has been a disaster at HC every chance he got.

We don't need Jones for QB because we already have a limited arm talent QB with Bagent.

What I said is Belichick for HC and McDaniels for OC. That is a HC/OC combo that is proven. Combine that with elite QB talent and you have a dynasty, combine this with limited QB talent and you can backdoor the playoffs

So see if they can turn CW into an elite QB to build the dynasty around.. if not then back door some playoffs with Bagent
 

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You would only think that if you completely ignored my other post that you actually quoted.

McDaniels for HC would be a bad move, he has been a disaster at HC every chance he got.

We don't need Jones for QB because we already have a limited arm talent QB with Bagent.

What I said is Belichick for HC and McDaniels for OC. That is a HC/OC combo that is proven. Combine that with elite QB talent and you have a dynasty, combine this with limited QB talent and you can backdoor the playoffs

So see if they can turn CW into an elite QB to build the dynasty around.. if not then back door some playoffs with Bagent
You weren’t saying that in the beginning and Bill’s days are behind him
 

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You weren’t saying that in the beginning and Bill’s days are behind him
Sure I did, I said I value being able to read a D quickly, and making the correct read much more then the physical abilities of the QB.

Besides as you know I used Jones as a means to attack Pace.

Why are Bill's days behind him? The BB/JM combo made the playoffs with Jones.
 

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Think there’s a lot of differences . Caleb was set up to succeed his rookie year while Fields wasn’t even supposed to play. Playoffs was a serious scenario this year, it wasn’t Fields rookie year. I can go on and on

None of this is the topic. You asked about QB W/L record as if people blamed Fields as a rookie. They did not. If Williama continues to play like shit his 2nd and 3rd year then yes people will be harder on him with regards to wins and losses. That is reality in the NFL as a QB.
 

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You would only think that if you completely ignored my other post that you actually quoted.

McDaniels for HC would be a bad move, he has been a disaster at HC every chance he got.

We don't need Jones for QB because we already have a limited arm talent QB with Bagent.

What I said is Belichick for HC and McDaniels for OC. That is a HC/OC combo that is proven. Combine that with elite QB talent and you have a dynasty, combine this with limited QB talent and you can backdoor the playoffs

So see if they can turn CW into an elite QB to build the dynasty around.. if not then back door some playoffs with Bagent

The fact you are answering seriously is amusing.

Bellichek isnt a long term solution and neither is McDaniels.
 

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The fact you are answering seriously is amusing.

Bellichek isnt a long term solution and neither is McDaniels.
Why because they have won multiple SB with elite QB talent and back doored the playoffs with limited QB talent?

And you want to roll the dice with some unknown?

Maybe there is another HC from Canada we should try?
 
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