The Bears may be better but they're still not good enough

[EDPeezy]

Success creates impact players.

The plan/hope is that an improved o-line and a rookie QB progressing moving into year two and a new offensive minded coach will help with that goal.

 

[mecha]

hello what have I missed the last near 3 months?

maybe I'll be back in July. later

 

[HeHateMe]

hello what have I missed the last near 3 months?

maybe I'll be back in July. later

HELLO

 

[Forty-six]

They drafted Odunze and Williams to be those guys and already have Moore. They've since added quite possibly the best guard in the league, one of the better centers in the league (and possibly best run-blocking center in the league) and another guard with plenty of upside after a nice early career in Detroit. On top of that you have a high pick at RT and we'll see who we get at #10. If that's Jeanty or one of the tight-ends then you might have another. Add in BJ's offensive coaching and you might suddenly go from "no impact players" to "wow they look loaded on offense."

I agree with you Nelly. I have high hopes that both Caleb and Rome have breakout years this season and DJ returns to who we know he can be.

 

[NeverDieEasy]

Actually you're right. Bears should have kept Eberflus.

 

[Myk]

We dont know that yet, caleb could just be mid if he doesnt fix a lot of his issues.

Mid gets you to a first round playoff exit with a good roster.

We do know that. We've known that at least 3 times recently. We know if you don't give your QB protection you aren't going anywhere, yet there are still fans who don't want oline, make excuses for or always push defense into higher importance.

It doesn't matter if mid gets you first round playoff exit. We can't even get to the playoffs because we have a habit of thinking it only takes a QB. Every new QB is going to be our savior.
They can't do it alone no matter who they are.

This is year 2. How many years are we going to wait this time before we blame the QB instead of not having an oline?

 

[Myk]

What?

Don't feed me that shit. The two quotes from you point out your stupidity or hypocrisy.

You want to trade up to get defense which costs multiple spots that would be used to get offense.
If you don't think Wright is not the one for OT getting defense and spending the future on defense isn't going to fix OT and give Williams more time.
You waste not only one pick but multiple picks on something that doesn't fix the biggest need. So then we're left replacing Wright with low round picks who aren't likely to be great either.

If you want an oline that can stand up to the best dlines that's going to take a lot of top picks spent on oline until we get it right. Getting dline isn't going to magically make the team win when our own QB is breaking sack records because the oline is a revolving door of free shots at him.

You don't want the Bears to be good, you want the Bears to be nostalgic, which coincidentally is mostly being bad but having defense.

Contrast that to me saying stay put and get the BPA whether that's OT, RB, TE, DT or DE. That's my ranking of the players who could likely fall or otherwise be there at 10.
Everyone else seems to claim BPA but then also claim certain positions won't ever be worth a 10.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

Don't feed me that shit. The two quotes from you point out your stupidity or hypocrisy.

You want to trade up to get defense which costs multiple spots that would be used to get offense.
If you don't think Wright is not the one for OT getting defense and spending the future on defense isn't going to fix OT and give Williams more time.
You waste not only one pick but multiple picks on something that doesn't fix the biggest need. So then we're left replacing Wright with low round picks who aren't likely to be great either.

If you want an oline that can stand up to the best dlines that's going to take a lot of top picks spent on oline until we get it right. Getting dline isn't going to magically make the team win when our own QB is breaking sack records because the oline is a revolving door of free shots at him.

You don't want the Bears to be good, you want the Bears to be nostalgic, which coincidentally is mostly being bad but having defense.

Contrast that to me saying stay put and get the BPA whether that's OT, RB, TE, DT or DE. That's my ranking of the players who could likely fall or otherwise be there at 10.
Everyone else seems to claim BPA but then also claim certain positions won't ever be worth a 10.

You're speaking in run on sentences so I have no idea what you're saying. Nor how to go back to read it a few times over to try and figure it out.
The first thing you said is wrong, I don't want the Bears to trade up. I merely postulated a thought to generate discussion.

What I want is for the Bears to stay put or trade back and draft offensive and defensive line with their picks.

I want depth on the offensive line better than Doug Kramer and Ja'Tyre Carter.

I also want depth and talent on the defensive line. I want a youth movement so they're not panicking in two to three years.

 

[Washington]

You're speaking in run on sentences so I have no idea what you're saying. Nor how to go back to read it a few times over to try and figure it out.
The first thing you said is wrong, I don't want the Bears to trade up. I merely postulated a thought to generate discussion.

What I want is for the Bears to stay put or trade back and draft offensive and defensive line with their picks.

I want depth on the offensive line better than Doug Kramer and Ja'Tyre Carter.

I also want depth and talent on the defensive line. I want a youth movement so they're not panicking in two to three years.

I completely agree with your last 3 sentences. I would not be angry though if they took a RB with one of their 2s and I would want Judkins if given a choice of might be there. I could see them going safety in the 3rd if the board fell right. Brisker has a mush melon and Byard is old. There is no depth there either. They also have to replace a starting LB.

 

[hyatt151]

I think Jeanty is the only guy they would move up to draft. Carter and Hunter will not be options. Would you be ok with 10 and 41 for 5 and 107 to draft a RB?

I'd make the deal but draft Carter or Graham at 5 and hope that one of these 4 RBs slide to 107, the rb's being Henderson, Judkins, Johnson or Scatteboo

 

[Runruffshod75]

I hope they can trade back. Yet media rumors claim alot of teams want to trade back.

If that's the case then it might cost significantly less to trade up than normal. If I'm a team with the second or third pick in the draft and the best offer for that pick is picks 10, 39, a couple of sixths or sevenths & a future second, and I know I can still get the player(s) I want at 10 then I would take the offer if that's the best there is.

If you can get your guy at 10 and a couple second rounders with later picks to use as trade up ammo on those seconds, it doesn't really matter what value charts would indicate. A net gain that allows a GM to have their cake and eat it too is still a gain.

The only player I would even consider moving up for if the cost is reasonable is Abdul Carter.

 

[Myk]

You're speaking in run on sentences so I have no idea what you're saying. Nor how to go back to read it a few times over to try and figure it out.
The first thing you said is wrong, I don't want the Bears to trade up. I merely postulated a thought to generate discussion.

What I want is for the Bears to stay put or trade back and draft offensive and defensive line with their picks.

I want depth on the offensive line better than Doug Kramer and Ja'Tyre Carter.

I also want depth and talent on the defensive line. I want a youth movement so they're not panicking in two to three years.

You lie.

What does this mean to me? It probably would be a good idea to trade up and get a guy like Carter or Graham rather than adding to a roster of players who are all the same type of player.

You first said you wanted to trade up quite far to get defense. You equated this with the Mack trade which was also trading away years of picks plus a huge amount of money the year after we got a QB without oline.

If run on sentences confuses you too much you would be too illiterate to know what a run on sentence is I wouldn't care if it had no punctuation your brain would fill in the blanks if you actually had a brain.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

You lie.



You first said you wanted to trade up quite far to get defense. You equated this with the Mack trade which was also trading away years of picks plus a huge amount of money the year after we got a QB without oline.

If run on sentences confuses you too much you would be too illiterate to know what a run on sentence is I wouldn't care if it had no punctuation your brain would fill in the blanks if you actually had a brain.

Yeah it was for the sake of discussion. As in it's a possibility as in if the Bears did it for Carter I'd be for it.

This is more about you wanting to argue with me because I just gave an opinion you don't like.

See the thing most everyone on this board can disagree with me get into a discussion with me and then let it go and move on and then there are people like you.

 

[Myk]

Yeah it was for the sake of discussion. As in it's a possibility as in if the Bears did it for Carter I'd be for it.

This is more about you wanting to argue with me because I just gave an opinion you don't like.

See the thing most everyone on this board can disagree with me get into a discussion with me and then let it go and move on and then there are people like you.

Are you truly delusional? Most people on this board do nothing but flame you and hold grudges about nothing forever.
I'm one of the few who actually tries to have a conversation with you sometimes. That's in spite of you always wanting to do what has failed for 40 years.

Trading up should not even be considered. Not even for an LT that we need to protect the QB. We have too many needs to be throwing away picks.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

Are you truly delusional? Most people on this board do nothing but flame you and hold grudges about nothing forever.
I'm one of the few who actually tries to have a conversation with you sometimes. That's in spite of you always wanting to do what has failed for 40 years.

Trading up should not even be considered. Not even for an LT that we need to protect the QB. We have too many needs to be throwing away picks.

Bye

 

[mecha]

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