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Lmao anyone who's watched both Bosh and Snoozer easily know Bosh is superior. It's so funny how Bosh teams up with a couple of the leagues best and all of a sudden he's some joke. Outside of Rose, he'd be the best player the Bulls have had since the dynasty days.

Bosh was the one player i felt like the Bulls would get and the guy they needed. I'd take our team with Bosh over the Heat with Boozer. Unfortunately that's not a possibility.

Anyways Howard for anyone not named Rose. Dynasty for the next decade
 

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LOL at people saying Boozer is better than Bosh. If that was true, we'd have Bosh and Boozer would be partying it up in Miami. If only there was a way to make that a reality...
 

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Wrong.

Rose averages 20.5PPG in his career against Miami.

Rose has never scored 35+ points against Miami in his entire career. Ever. Let alone against the Big 3. Regular season, playoffs, whatever. Never.

You're flat out just making stuff up now.

January 15, 2011 Derrick Rose 34 points
February 24, 2011 Derrick Rose 26 points
March 6, 2011 Derrick Rose 27 points
May 15, 2011 Derrick Rose 28 points
May 18, 2011 Derrick Rose 21 points
May 24, 2011 Derrick Rose 23 points
May 22, 2011 Derrick Rose 20 points
May 26, 2011 Derrick Rose 25 points
January 29, 2012 Derrick Rose 34 points

3rd grade maths: (34+26+27+28+21+23+20+25+34)/9 = 26,5 points per game.

I said he can do it and he have done it.If you are saying that I should have written I can't say something more.
 

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Who the hell are you to tell me how I would feel about Bosh coming here? Answer this for me...who did the Bulls see first? Bosh or Boozer? And when did they sign Boozer? Bosh has been a better player than Boozer for quite some time. Boozer was NEVER a franchise player...Bosh was and still could be.

You didn't watch the last game if you didn't see Lebron guard Rose. Lebron guarded Rose, with NO DOUBLE TEAMS... and Rose was scoreless. The same thing happened in the playoffs last year. Did you watch any of those games?

First of all I am just pointing that most of you guys stick with the Bulls players bad performances and judge them badly.At the same time you don't do the same with other team players.

I watched the last game,James guarded him,Rose scored 34 points,and I was talking about the last minute plays where Rose choked without James guarding him.In last years ECF it was more of Rose's bad performance than James good defense.He wasn't ready enough for so big games and not experiences in such games.He is not ready enough even NOW.He choked in the previous game and LBJ didn't guard him in the free throw line.
 

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January 15, 2011 Derrick Rose 34 points
February 24, 2011 Derrick Rose 26 points
March 6, 2011 Derrick Rose 27 points
May 15, 2011 Derrick Rose 28 points
May 18, 2011 Derrick Rose 21 points
May 24, 2011 Derrick Rose 23 points
May 22, 2011 Derrick Rose 20 points
May 26, 2011 Derrick Rose 25 points
January 29, 2012 Derrick Rose 34 points

3rd grade maths: (34+26+27+28+21+23+20+25+34)/9 = 26,5 points per game.

I said he can do it and he have done it.If you are saying that I should have written I can't say something more.

What in Gods name are you talking about?

You said "Rose can score 35 easily on the Heat. He has done it many times".

1. He's never done it. Ever.

2. Your 3rd grade math is idiotic. Rose's 20.5PPG against the Heat is his career number against them. Showing me 9 games where he played them and coming to 26.5 doesn't show me that his career average against the Heat is incorrect, nor does it show him scoring 35 points in any game against them.

3. You're a moron. Quit posting.
 

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In last years ECF it was more of Rose's bad performance than James good defense..

Ever consider that Rose's bad performance was because Lebron James was guarding him?

Dolt.
 

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What in Gods name are you talking about?

You said "Rose can score 35 easily on the Heat. He has done it many times".

1. He's never done it. Ever.

2. Your 3rd grade math is idiotic. Rose's 20.5PPG against the Heat is his career number against them. Showing me 9 games where he played them and coming to 26.5 doesn't show me that his career average against the Heat is incorrect, nor does it show him scoring 35 points in any game against them.

3. You're a moron. Quit posting.

1.He scored 34 twice.Is that the big difference?34 and not 35?
2.No 3rd grade math is 3rd grade math.You are idiotic.You are talking about Rose vs big 3 and Rose vs LBJ and you post his career average against the heat.And his career is his rookie year+2 more years+1 game
3.I will quit posting if you quit fapping and being an ashole.The only sure is that I won't answer in any of your posts no matter how stupid you are in what you say.You will be proven stupid soon enough by your Queen's and company failure and Chicago's championship.Talking with you its like arguing with a 8 year old child.

But tell me one last thing.
So if Bosh is so much better than Boozer.
And Wade is obviously a better player than Deng.

The Bulls beating the Heat in playoffs with 4-0 or 4-1 without the Heat having injured one of their 3 big stars, that would mean that DRose is MUCH better than LBJ right?

I don't know.If #2 guy of the Heat is way better than #2 guy of the Bulls,and #3 guy of the Heat is much better than #3 guy of the Bulls and the Bulls dominate the series that would mean that #1 guy of the Bulls is a lot better than #1 guy of the Heat?That's how I understand it.Otherwise it can't happen
 

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Ever consider that Rose's bad performance was because Lebron James was guarding him?

Dolt.

As much as I hate to say this being a Bulls Homer, James defense on Rose has always been great! It's hard for Rose to score on someone that athletic and who is a good defender. Can only hope someone else steps up the next time we see the Heat!
 

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They go all Celtic Pride and steal Lebron James and Kevin Durant.



Also they should shut down Rose for the next month or more and make sure he is healthy for the playoffs. Same for Deng. They should use Pop's coaching style and rest his guys from time to time in the season and not play every game like it is game 7 of the finals.
 

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Or it means that the bulls have an overall better supporting cast outside of those 3 players and coaching as well.
 

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Or it means that the bulls have an overall better supporting cast outside of those 3 players and coaching as well.

I am talking about a dominant win in the series.Not a 4-3 or 4-2
 
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They go all Celtic Pride and steal Lebron James and Kevin Durant.



Also they should shut down Rose for the next month or more and make sure he is healthy for the playoffs. Same for Deng. They should use Pop's coaching style and rest his guys from time to time in the season and not play every game like it is game 7 of the finals.

Not sure about the next month, but there's no reason why he should be playing w/ a bad back against shitty teams like New Orleans. I have no clue why Thibs is allowing Rose to dictate whether he plays or not, anyway. A condensed season only makes it tougher for players to recover from injuries.
 

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1.He scored 34 twice.Is that the big difference?34 and not 35?
Yes, especially given the fact that you say he's done it "many times" when he never has.

EVER.


2.No 3rd grade math is 3rd grade math.You are idiotic.You are talking about Rose vs big 3 and Rose vs LBJ and you post his career average against the heat.And his career is his rookie year+2 more years+1 game
No, actually I'm not. I cited his career numbers. You disagreed...for what reason I have no idea.

Even still his career averages against the Big 3 are less than 27 per game with no 35 point games.

You lose and are a moron either way.



You will be proven stupid soon enough by your Queen's and company failure and Chicago's championship.
The hell are you talking about?

I'm not a Heat fan.

STFU and next time you post..make sense and have it be factual.


So if Bosh is so much better than Boozer.
Yep.

And Wade is obviously a better player than Deng.
yep.


The Bulls beating the Heat in playoffs with 4-0 or 4-1 without the Heat having injured one of their 3 big stars, that would mean that DRose is MUCH better than LBJ right?
No.

Logic fail.

If LBJ drops triple doubles, Rose struggles and the Bulls somehow still manage to win the series...no it wouldn't prove that.

So your example sucks and lacks context and basis in reality that can be evaluated.
 

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If LBJ drops triple doubles, Rose struggles and the Bulls somehow still manage to win the series...no it wouldn't prove that.

So your example sucks and lacks context and basis in reality that can be evaluated.

You are the one who is questioning the possibility of the Bulls winning the championship and every Bull's player abilities.I am not.

How can it happen to have their 2 key players much better as you say,Bron dropping triple doubles,Rose struggles,and the bulls win the series with 4-0 or 4-1?Someone must step up in this scenario to make the Bulls dominate the series.If that happen it will mean that the Bulls #2 or #3 are not so worse than the heats #2 or #3 and you were completely wrong now.

So it will mean that either you are completely wrong now and misjudging the Bulls players or DRose is much better than LBJ.Fair to me.I ll wait till that time because I am sure that the Bulls not only will win the series but they will dominate it.

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You are the one who is questioning the possibility of the Bulls winning the championship and every Bull's player abilities.I am not.

Wrong.

There's no question in my mind.

The Bulls won't beat the Heat in a 7 game series if both teams are healthy. And I don't question every player on the Bulls.

Keep failing.

How can it happen to have their 2 key players much better as you say,Bron dropping triple doubles,Rose struggles,and the bulls win the series with 4-0 or 4-1?
Because the Heat bench plays like tard. The Bull sbench goes Mob and wins the series for them?

I don't know.

Let's evaluate games based on what happens, not on some asinine hypothetical not rooted in any true evaluation of the game itself.



[So it will mean that either you are completely wrong now and misjudging the Bulls players or DRose is much better than LBJ
I'm not misjudging the Bulls. Anyone with a brian knows Bosh>Boozer and Wade>Deng, and LBJ>Rose. It's not tough. Basketball is an odd sport though. Even given all that the Bulls swept the Heat last season in the regular season then got stomped in the playoffs 4-1.



[ I am sure that the Bulls not only will win the series but they will dominate it.

Delusional fan is delusional.
 

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I am talking about a dominant win in the series.Not a 4-3 or 4-2
Dude you're fighting a losing battle.

Give it up.

We have to trade EVERYONE for Howard or we can't beat Miami. We can trot out Rose, Howard and scrubs and sleepwalk to an undefeated season and sweep the playoffs. This team, despite having the best record in the NBA, having played the most games, the most road games, and dealt with a ton of injuries along the way, has absolutely no chance to beat Miami.

I personally feel this team can beat Miami, but what do I know? I'm basketball Special person.
 

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You really are a first timer! You lame duck, listen. You cannot assume that the equation and outcome of the 7game series is limited to Rose, Deng, Boozer, Bron, Bosh, and Wade. You are delusional. If I remember, there are 10 active players in a game per team? And I absolutely love our 10 against the 10 in Miami. I'm just that confident in the Bulls. They have younger talent- the heat have about 3-5 years of prime minutes left together; and less if there is injury.


Sure I would have liked to have gotten Wade 2 years ago, but I never agreed to chasing James. I loved Derrick's demeanor and signing James would have taken away from the emphasis the offense puts on Rose. I would have loved to have gotten Wade and David Lee. I personally disagreed w signing Boozer before he was even truly targeted (after Amare, Wade signing) and believed David Lee would be a better compliment to the natural uptempo Rose likes to play with. I like Boozer when he's knocking down those 15-18 footers, but I would like to see him play like a man and take it to the rack; that or extend his range to 20 feet to spread the floor for Rose.

That's neither here or there but I like the talent and leadership we have in place. You need to man up and quit bowing down to your "almighty Heat". They are beatable like any other team in the NBA... And for you to constantly favor the Heat in a 7 game series is cowardly. Look at what orlando did to your Miami team the other day. You lack what real men call balls, courage, cofidence, PRIDE!


When you finally get your nose from under the Heat's bottom and begin displaying confidence come back to the Chi Town threads. Lame duck.

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You really are a first timer! You lame duck, listen. You cannot assume that the equation and outcome of the 7game series is limited to Rose, Deng, Boozer, Bron, Bosh, and Wade. You are delusional. If I remember, there are 10 active players in a game per team? And I absolutely love our 10 against the 10 in Miami. I'm just that confident in the Bulls. They have younger talent- the heat have about 3-5 years of prime minutes left together; and less if there is injury.


Sure I would have liked to have gotten Wade 2 years ago, but I never agreed to chasing James. I loved Derrick's demeanor and signing James would have taken away from the emphasis the offense puts on Rose. I would have loved to have gotten Wade and David Lee. I personally disagreed w signing Boozer before he was even truly targeted (after Amare, Wade signing) and believed David Lee would be a better compliment to the natural uptempo Rose likes to play with. I like Boozer when he's knocking down those 15-18 footers, but I would like to see him play like a man and take it to the rack; that or extend his range to 20 feet to spread the floor for Rose.

That's neither here or there but I like the talent and leadership we have in place. You need to man up and quit bowing down to your "almighty Heat". They are beatable like any other team in the NBA... And for you to constantly favor the Heat in a 7 game series is cowardly. Look at what orlando did to your Miami team the other day. You lack what real men call balls, courage, cofidence, PRIDE!


When you finally get your nose from under the Heat's bottom and begin displaying confidence come back to the Chi Town threads. Lame duck.

Love Jimi.

You lack a what most people call common sense and damn brain.

Anyone with half of what you lack, can tell that Miami is a BETTER basketball team. They don't need to win every game to do so. They will do it in the playoffs.

Thibs and the Bulls need to win every reg season game and get HCA in order to stand a chance against the heat and they KNOW that, apparently you don't though.

Every game they win, they have to have the pedal to the metal the entire damn time. They can't just take a night off and they know it. Every game for them is like pulling teeth. You really want to know what winning games for this team is like, look no further than the expression on Luols face after the T'Wolves on Jan 10th.

It was just this look of, that game shouldn't have been that hard. But the fact of the matter is, every game really is that hard for the bulls, especially when rose is having a slightly off game.

You're stuck on stupid and live in an odd basketball world where chemistry is better than actual talent.
 

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