The Case for Brian Flores for Head Coach

[dabears70]

You mean the concussion prone QB who is now out because he has a broken ass?

Think Flores was right. Tua aint built for this and Herbert is better.

But jokes aside, dont think Tua situation is relevant here. He wanted Herbert and the GM drafted Tua which caused the issue. In this scenario it only makes sense for him to accept the job if he is sold on Caleb so no reason for conflict. In addition, I think Poles will give him the players he wants and finally I presume he has learned from the Tua debacle.

I just hope he has learned how to be a leader and not a dictator. Also, if i remember correctly Tua wasn't the only player that complained about Flores and didn't like playing for him.

 

[dabears70]

Dumbass idea, which will be hilarious if it happened. Can't rule it out because Poles is a desperate dumbass.

They'll be slightly better next year but not nearly good enough to ever win anything.

So far the only reasons i've heard for why they would hire Flores is because Poles and Flores went to Boston College at the same time and K.Warren once worked for Minn, but not while Flores was there, and these are somehow how they connect to him. LOL. That's the dumbest shit i've ever heard for reasons to hire someone to be the HC of your football team.

 

[dabears70]

More like cant rule it out because poles love his boston college buddies.

Were they actually buddies at BC??

 

[dabears70]

Whose his agent?

 

[Szlachcic]

I just hope he has learned how to be a leader and not a dictator. Also, if i remember correctly Tua wasn't the only player that complained about Flores and didn't like playing for him.

Like anything in life, you make mistakes, you learn from them, and go on with life. I'm sure Flores changed his ways, at least there are no reports he remains the same..

 

[dabears70]

Like anything in life, you make mistakes, you learn from them, and go on with life. I'm sure Flores changed his ways, at least there are no reports he remains the same..

Right but getting a HC job comes with power and power boosts ego's so it's one of those things that we won't know until we see it and that's scary.

 

[Canth]

If Flores really did learn from his time in Miami and is a better person and coach now. Great! For sure probably worth an interview.

But, like any defensive HC, what the hell is the long term plan for a successful offense? I'm not ok with just hiring Flores or Vrabel because they have a strong personality if they have no damn sustainable, actual executable, plan for an offense.

 

[dabears70]

If Flores really did learn from his time in Miami and is a better person and coach now. Great! For sure probably worth an interview.

But, like any defensive HC, what the hell is the long term plan for a successful offense? I'm not ok with just hiring Flores or Vrabel because they have a strong personality if they have no damn sustainable, actual executable, plan for an offense.

Well that's what they'll be pitching to the Bears during their interviews. We aren't going to hire anyone without them giving us a plan that we like. Some will already have names for position hirings.

 

[remydat]

I just hope he has learned how to be a leader and not a dictator. Also, if i remember correctly Tua wasn't the only player that complained about Flores and didn't like playing for him.

The top five defensive coordinators in the NFL, according to the NFLPA player survey:

1. Aaron Glenn, Detroit Lions
2. Steve Wilks, San Francisco 49ers
3. Dan Quinn, Dallas Cowboys
4. Brian Flores, Minnesota Vikings
5. Raheem Morris, Los Angeles Rams

Seems players respect him enough to vote him as the 4th best D coordinator.

 

[dabears70]

The top five defensive coordinators in the NFL, according to the NFLPA player survey:

1. Aaron Glenn, Detroit Lions
2. Steve Wilks, San Francisco 49ers
3. Dan Quinn, Dallas Cowboys
4. Brian Flores, Minnesota Vikings
5. Raheem Morris, Los Angeles Rams

Seems players respect him enough to vote him as rhe 4th best D coordinator.

Okay, has absolutely nothing to do with what i said but.....okay. Lol

 

[DanielCCSBears]

@remydat delete this, big dawg. You already ruined Thomas Brown’s career with a thread, now you’re after Flores? Are you Elon’s accountant?

He's got big feelings after the Bears failed so much this year.

 

[TL1961]

"I think Flores will also be good for Caleb in ensuring he focuses on the fundamentals namely his footwork and mechanics.."

For what reason do you think that? What in his past makes you make this connection? He's a defensive coordinator whose sole HC role ended due to his misuse/abuse of his QB.

Are you just determined to see the Bears hire the man and don't want to use race as the reason?

 

[remydat]

So far the only reasons i've heard for why they would hire Flores is because Poles and Flores went to Boston College at the same time and K.Warren once worked for Minn, but not while Flores was there, and these are somehow how they connect to him. LOL. That's the dumbest shit i've ever heard for reasons to hire someone to be the HC of your football team.

Then you aren't paying attention as the OP laid out several reasons to hire him.

Let me preface this by saying this is predicated on it really being Poles pick but reading the tea leaves I think Johnson while liking Chicago will likely go somewhere he can pick his GM and a smaller market.

I dont think the Bears will like the optics of a first time HC forcing a GM out so if Johnson doesnt want to work with Poles then I think Poles opts for a guy he is very familiar with in Brian Flores.

Warren will sign off because of the rave reviews his Minny connections have given on Flores. Hiring Flores like Johnson weakens a division rival although it comes with the downside of giving Minny 2 3rd round picks in 2025 and 2026.

Flores also makes sense because several players from Kmet to JJ to Gordon to Byard to Allen have spoken about needing a coach to instill discipline and Flores does not **** around.

We also know Flores doesnt have a problem challenging shitty owners or upper management as he told Ross to **** off when Ross wanted him to tank and turned him in for tampering with Brady costing the Dolphins a 1st. So he will also hold the ownership and upper management accountable which is what this franchise needs.

Now the biggest issue with Flores is his handling of the the QB and O. His OCs in Miami left a lot to be desired and he obviously has issues with Tua. Having said that he would naturally only take the job if he believed in Caleb and he saw Caleb upclose and personal twice so likely has an idea of what Caleb needs to improve. Caleb struggles againat the blitz and Flores likely has a lot of insights on how a QB might attack the blitz given his heavy blitzing scheme. Not to mention Caleb should improve as a result of having to practice against the blitz a **** ton.

I think Flores will also be good for Caleb in ensuring he focuses on the fundamentals namely his footwork and mechanics which IMO is the root cause of Caleb's accuracy issues. Flores IMO will also ensure Caleb stays disciplined when it comes to taking what the D gives him and not eating sacks as don't think Flores will tolerate that sort of stupidity from his QB.

Of course the other big question for Flores is who he gets as an OC but that is a bit of an unknown at this point although a few decent options that he has connections with like McDaniels, O'Brien exist.

The bold are all reasons he would be a good choice that have nothing to do with BC or Minny.

 

[TL1961]

Like anything in life, you make mistakes, you learn from them, and go on with life. I'm sure Flores changed his ways, at least there are no reports he remains the same..

How are you sure he's changed his ways?

 

[remydat]

Okay, has absolutely nothing to do with what i said but.....okay. Lol

You remarked about players complaining about him other than Tua and I pointed out that players voted him as one of the best D coordinators. In order for him to be ranked that high he obviously had to garner votes from the players actually playing for him so it would seem the majority of players that play for him like him.

 

[cameronkrazie86]

Flores is a good coach but not sure I love the fit with the Bears. I'd prefer they go with an offensive head coach and figure out whether this QB is/isn't their franchise QB. If Caleb proves to be a franchise QB, then you can go defensive head coach in future, if needed. But until you know you've got a legit, franchise QB, I'd be going offensive head coach every single time and hope one of them can find you/coach up a QB into being that franchise guy.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

You remarked about players complaining about him other than Tua and I pointed out that players voted him as one of the best D coordinators. In order for him to be ranked that high he obviously had to garner votes from the players actually playing for him so it would seem the majority of players that play for him like him.

Fitzpatrick forced the team to trade him cause of Flores. Tunsil and stills were also traded not sure if those are on Flores or not. But either way stop lying he was polarizing cause majority of players are too soft for a hc like him.

 

[dabears70]

Then you aren't paying attention as the OP laid out several reasons to hire him.

The bold are all reasons he would be a good choice that have nothing to do with BC or Minny.

Hahaha i see one good reason in the bold and that's that he will bring accountability and discipline which are things i always said were the good things that come with him. But can he bring that without being a dictator is a question.

I don't think any HC, especially one that hasn't proven he can be a good HC yet, will be holding any ownership or front office accountable. I actually thought that was funny when i read that.

I also don't need Flores teaching Caleb anything, he needs to be the HC and put his hands on what he knows which is defense and let the OC and the offensive coaches teach Caleb. His resume for handling QB's isn't very good so lets just leave that for the offensive coaches.

You also do realize he has multiple red flags that come with hiring Flores as well right?

I also never said he didn't have some good things, only that you seem to be forgetting about all the bad things.

 

[DefNextYear]

I was big on Flores when we ended up with Eberflus. I wanted him or Daboll… the whole lawsuit stuff buried him, but I still like Flores.

I voted not my preference, but I’m ok with him.

 

[remydat]

"I think Flores will also be good for Caleb in ensuring he focuses on the fundamentals namely his footwork and mechanics.."

For what reason do you think that? What in his past makes you make this connection? He's a defensive coordinator whose sole HC role ended due to his misuse/abuse of his QB.

Are you just determined to see the Bears hire the man and don't want to use race as the reason?

Brian Flores is making a statement

Vikings DC has been a revelation, which isn't a surprise when you understand how he got here

www.purpleinsider.football

Because his attention to detail is well known and why Pioli told Bellichek that Flores was perfect for him. So yes I think he would ensure Caleb pays attention to the details.

I also already explained why this situation is not similar to Tua. The Tua situation arose because he wanted Herbert and the GM drafted Tua ie he never wanted Tua. By contrast it would be pretty stupid for him to take this job if he wasn't sold on Caleb. So he would be taking the job in large part because he is convinced he can win with Caleb something he was not convinced about Tua. That doesn't change the fact what he did with Tua was wrong but it isnt the same situation here. Tua got caught in a pissing contest between Flores and the GM.