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Well you need to talk to Jack Lame and find out why he says he's a body catcher then. Can't use our #8 pick on a kid that isn't a hands catcher.
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I'm all about trading down especially with knowing that if there's any part of R.Pace's drafting that's iffy, it's his 1st round drafting. He's been so much better drafting in every other round so trade down and collect more picks which are needed especially with us not having our 3rd rounder this year.
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I love Ridley, but I am not sure he is a great value at 8.
I know we need WR help, but they are on of the riskier positions to draft high.
Also at Ridley's size and the system the Bears will be running he needs to run the 4.34 that you are projecting.
I know we need WR help, but they are on of the riskier positions to draft high.
Also at Ridley's size and the system the Bears will be running he needs to run the 4.34 that you are projecting.
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Ridley is going to be 23 at the start of next season. He'll be 24 in December. Keep seeing that bit of misinformation when he's discussed...
As far as drafting him at 8, no thanks. I think the Bears are going to have their choice of o-lineman and I think a case could be made for Williams, Nelson or Brown Jr. at 8.
If enough QBs are picked in front of them plus Barkley, Chubb could fall. Key will probably be there and he'll be as intriguing as any player in the draft. There will be plenty of value at the WR position in the 2nd round and there will probably be some good ones in the 4th too.
As far as drafting him at 8, no thanks. I think the Bears are going to have their choice of o-lineman and I think a case could be made for Williams, Nelson or Brown Jr. at 8.
If enough QBs are picked in front of them plus Barkley, Chubb could fall. Key will probably be there and he'll be as intriguing as any player in the draft. There will be plenty of value at the WR position in the 2nd round and there will probably be some good ones in the 4th too.
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If the bears draft calvin ridley with the 8th pick in the draft i wont be watching a bears game and definitely not going to the miami dolphins game.
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It's was actually me, but maybe Jack would agree? It's what I've seen during games, and just watch that highlight film. A lot of those catches he secures with his body and when it does hit his hands, he bobbles it first...I think he could be a nice deep threat, but that's about it. #8 is too high
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I think there's cherry picking to say the drop off is slight. Look here's a great that went later. Similar was done to pump people up about late round QBs or UDFA, there's Brady and Romo.
When I went through best WR lists they were usually taken in the high 1st. We could try for Rice and maybe get Wright in the 1st or we could try for Wright in the 3rd and maybe get Knox.
If we expect to ever have that dynasty we need to start getting more Rices and less Knoxes.
I'm holding out for him to pull through.
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He doesn't have to run a 4.34 for us to be able to use him in our system. 40 times aren't as big a deal as some on here make them out to be. I'd rather have a guy that runs good routes, has good hands and is smart over a guy that can run fast. If he can run a sub 4.5 he'd be just fine in this system.
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He does a good job in the 2-5th rounds true. But he gambles big on athletic talent in the first round when the pool of candidates is at it's largest. It is a strategy for trying to get a generational talent, which isn't necessarily bad, but is easy to criticize by people with no skin in the game. Sure you risk big busts, but that's a risk you accept and make up for by making solid picks later.
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Pace's stated philosophy on high 1st round draft picks is to look for potential difference makers, preferably at impact positions. And that's the way he's drafted with his three 1st round picks. Pace said when he picked White that the Bears had him rated higher than Cooper. It was the potential of having a very big & really fast WR that could stretch defenses being preferred over the solid route, good hands, average size type of guy. I don't think there's any reason to believe Pace has changed in his drafting philosophy, White's struggles notwithstanding. Its a risk/reward type of thing, and with that philosophy you have to accept that sometimes things don't work out. Bottom line, Ridley doesn't fit the mold for Pace's drafting philosophy. Ridley's more a Cooper type, with average-to-below size and lacks burner speed. Before anyone jumps in with trade-down-to-get-him, Pace is trade-up guy high in the first round. He wants difference makers and is willing to trade up to get them (as he's done in the last two drafts...). I can see Pace going in a number of directions with his #1 this year, but Ridley isn't one of them...
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I think has excellent value at 8, but because so many will be hung up on the drop in his production while overlooking the real reasons from that drop, & I think the Bears could have their cake & eat it too, by trading back & picking Ridley.
This season Alabama ran a run heavy/run first offense that asked the WRs to block more than in previous seasons & I believe all off their WR's fell short of touted production. Ridley still turned in a solid season of production spite of the change in offensive philosophy. But when you look at Ridley in prior seasons when Alabamas offense thew the ball significantly more, Ridley has fantastic play & production to go with it.
IMO Ridley is one of the rare examples of a blue chip young talent that would be an excellent pick at #8 & an even better investment if he were aquired in a trade back over circumstances over his drop in 2017 production that have more to do with the change in Alabamas offensive philosophy than they do with Ridley as a talent.
I love his excellent route running, his ability to line up at all WR positions, his speed, blocking, & moist of all that he's a hand catcher with fantastic hands. IMO I think the Bears could trade back, still get a #8 or better talent, & get much need picks, & I don't often entertain the idea of trading back. Also if Simmie Cobbs Jr. is still on the board in the high mid rounds, I'd run to the podium to take him to if the Bears got extra picks for moving back for Ridley.
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Not worth a top 15 pick. I’d draft him at the bottom if he 1st round but only if I was a team drafting there anyway. I wouldn’t trade down and miss out on a premiere edge rusher or OL for him, even with the extra picks.
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From dj.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...rned-from-scouting-national-championship-game
3. I received a few text messages during the game from NFL scouts saying Alabama WR Calvin Ridley is going to be much better in the pros than he is in college.
I agree with them.
Alabama struggled to get him going early, but he made two huge catches down the stretch against Georgia, one for a TD and one to put the Crimson Tide in range for a potential game-winning field goal, although they were unable to convert on that opportunity.
Ridley might have been the most talented player on the field Monday night.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...rned-from-scouting-national-championship-game
3. I received a few text messages during the game from NFL scouts saying Alabama WR Calvin Ridley is going to be much better in the pros than he is in college.
I agree with them.
Alabama struggled to get him going early, but he made two huge catches down the stretch against Georgia, one for a TD and one to put the Crimson Tide in range for a potential game-winning field goal, although they were unable to convert on that opportunity.
Ridley might have been the most talented player on the field Monday night.
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Err? Lacks burner speed? You do realize corners play 10 yards off him because he’s just that insanely fast? Who knows what paces model was. Kevin White was an athletic monster, no wr in this draft compares to him. He was 6’3 running a 4.35. All we do know is Ridley fits nagy’s system.
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Which shows you how dumb this philosophy is because all Cooper has done in the NFL is dominate.
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Shoulda had two touchdowns if their qb could hit throw a wide open pass. There were a few other plays where he was open but his shit qb was too busy running out of the pocket and not looking downfield. Calvin is amazing at working his way back to the ball and helping his qb. Very difficult to cover him for 5 seconds, considering trubisky keeps his eyes down field when scrambling that’s a perfect match.
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Uh no. Cooper was really shitty this year. He definitely did NOT dominate.
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I'm anti WR in one ( unless very special) and haven't done any research on these guys as I don't watch college ball other than some playoffs. I gotta say, if he looks like his highlight film most of the time, he may be worth the risk. He looks to have some awesome traits that you can't teach and looks VG at the ones that you can. Vision, timing, awareness, quick and fast with that natural awareness to not take big hits and take correct angles. Highlights but that's a wow tape beyond the big plays.