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If you get ANY sort of seal of approval from d3a on a trade for prospects you must have done pretty damn well.
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My 1st choice would have been to resign him but either Garza didnt want to stay or Cubs didnt want to pony up the money which i get since he hasnt pitched full season in 2+ yrs. I get what they doing but would like to start seeing some of these guys at MLB level. Olt is almost 25. Why he going to AAA??? Arrieta is 26. Why he in AAA?? Since team plans on sucking until 2015 just bring them up and play them.
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Nah, we all knew it was going to happen. I am just saying that I hate that it did. That's all. Maybe we'll just re-sign him next year.
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If the plan is to suck, then you are right, Arrieta would go a long way towards helping that cause
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We didn't fleece them, but a decent deal for a 2 month rental who let's be honest isn't a No. 1 and on many rotations a No. 2 pitcher. We did ok.
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Olt at the dish reminds me of Mark Reynolds with a little less power but better contact.
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i liked the deal..
i look at it this way.. the cubs had 3 choices
1. resign him.. for whatever reason they didnt agree on a deal, so that option was gone
2. keep him and make a qualifying offer and get a draft pick (they felt it was a better option to deal and get better prospects now )
3. trade him to a team that offered the most or most quality in retun
the cubs chose option 3, and it seems that the rangers probably had the best package to offer
i look at it this way.. the cubs had 3 choices
1. resign him.. for whatever reason they didnt agree on a deal, so that option was gone
2. keep him and make a qualifying offer and get a draft pick (they felt it was a better option to deal and get better prospects now )
3. trade him to a team that offered the most or most quality in retun
the cubs chose option 3, and it seems that the rangers probably had the best package to offer
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Garza was likely not going to be on the roster after this season. That's the reason to like the trade. They got several very good prospects out of the deal. Sometimes you have to make chicken salad out of chicken poop. This was one of those times and I will be very surprised if a couple of these players don't help the MLB club eventually.
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Mark Reynolds with plus defense at 3B is actually a pretty good player.
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No doubt, but that's his peak. Who knows if he gets there
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A near 30% k rate in the minors is a huge red flag for that. I mean Reynolds the year before being called up only struck out 20% in AA. That said I like the near ready player in Olt that could provide a legitimate power threat to the lineup. I've loved the idea of sliding Valbuena over to second base where his bat will play up a ton.
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Happy with the return but hate to see Garza go.
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As I have stated time and time again. Whatever it takes to speed this mess up.
Theo's claim all along was to rebuild the farm, and now with that more than well-on-its-way, the increasing possibility of Soriano being dealt, a definite top 3-4 pick again in the draft next year, there are going to be no excuses what-so-ever to ignore the parent club.
When you take guys like Dempster, Garza, Soriano and a host of others off of the roster, people don't line up and buy tickets to watch "Barney & Friends" play baseball.
It's time to start making some long-term free agent moves this off-season, and one that wouldn't hurt is to outbid everyone for the Cuban, Miguel Gonzalez.
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As I have stated time and time again. Whatever it takes to speed this mess up.
Theo's claim all along was to rebuild the farm, and now with that more than well-on-its-way, the increasing possibility of Soriano being dealt, a definite top 3-4 pick again in the draft next year, there are going to be no excuses what-so-ever to ignore the parent club.
When you take guys like Dempster, Garza, Soriano and a host of others off of the roster, people don't line up and buy tickets to watch "Barney & Friends" play baseball.
It's time to start making some long-term free agent moves this off-season, and one that wouldn't hurt is to outbid everyone for the Cuban, Miguel Gonzalez.
Wouldn't several on this board consider Gonzo a "lottery ticket" though?
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For a rental not a bad haul.
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Some might, however, when the large market teams are trying to acquire his services, I think it is closer to a Dice-K/Darvish risk versus a Gerardo Concepcion risk.
The Cubs just lost Garza and could land a close-to if not starter already without forfeiting farm hands to get it.
It would be nice to land a David Price, but for what the Cubs and Rangers gave to get Garza, it is not worth losing half the farm.
Nab a guy like Gonzalez and then get an Ervin Santana, the rotation starts to take shape, and there is no reason monetarily that they could not afford that, especially with Garza, Feldman, Marmol, and maybe Baker no longer on the books.
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Some might, however, when the large market teams are trying to acquire his services, I think it is closer to a Dice-K/Darvish risk versus a Gerardo Concepcion risk.
The Cubs just lost Garza and could land a close-to if not starter already without forfeiting farm hands to get it.
It would be nice to land a David Price, but for what the Cubs and Rangers gave to get Garza, it is not worth losing half the farm.
Nab a guy like Gonzalez and then get an Ervin Santana, the rotation starts to take shape, and there is no reason monetarily that they could not afford that, especially with Garza, Feldman, Marmol, and maybe Baker no longer on the books.
I'm in complete agreement.
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For a 3-5 hitter contact rate is over rated. You have to pay sometimes for that power.
I was thinking over B.Jaxx. That is why I don't want him in the future. He has a low contact rate but lacks the power to justify it.
It is what is is. If he gives solid D and 25 HR's it is worth losing some contact.
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