The obvious HC hire

[SugarWalls]

It’s obvious that Ben Johnson is the overwhelming best HC candidate this year.

He has built on last year’s success and has taken it a step further this year absolutely clowning teams with trick plays and not really keeping it close in many games.

Idk how he is as a leader as we’ve seen other guys fail like Josh Mcdaniels.

Id be scared to lock into any coach for longer than 3 years, but I really hope the bears just take the incredibly obvious route here and do what it takes to get Ben Johnson to be HC for the Chicago bears.

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

It’s obvious that Ben Johnson is the overwhelming best HC candidate this year.

He has built on last year’s success and has taken it a step further this year absolutely clowning teams with trick plays and not really keeping it close in many games.

Idk how he is as a leader as we’ve seen other guys fail like Josh Mcdaniels.

Id be scared to lock into any coach for longer than 3 years, but I really hope the bears just take the incredibly obvious route here and do what it takes to get Ben Johnson to be HC for the Chicago bears.

One thing is calling offensive plays. Other thing is being capable to handle every task a head coach has. I’m not saying he isn’t capable. But we don’t know. But that goes for anyone. We have to take a risk. But we take a calculated risk with interviews, to find out how much a candidate knows and what he brings. Time will tell if he’s a good candidate.

 

[msadows]

Is he that good?

Being an OC is easy in the NFL when you have the best OL in football by a large margin.

His "genius" self passed the ball 34 times yesterday when they were running all over the bears defense, allowing the bears to come back in the 2nd half.

11 rushing attempts in the 2nd half. This is the genius?

 

[SugarWalls]

Is he that good?

Being an OC is easy in the NFL when you have the best OL in football by a large margin.

His "genius" self passed the ball 34 times yesterday when they were running all over the bears defense, allowing the bears to come back in the 2nd half.

11 rushing attempts in the 2nd half. This is the genius?

I’m sorry can you bold where I typed the word genius in the OP?

 

[Nads786]

I’m really not sold on him at all. I give him credit for unlocking Goff and he’s clearly a good play caller but is he elite? I’m not sure.

I really think we need a culture change. We aren’t losing just because of offensive production. We’re losing because we expect to lose.

We aren’t playing up to our potential.

Give me Vrabel - it’s the best coaching arbitrage you can get since Andy Reid.

 

[Canth]

Lance Briggs on CHGO making some interesting cases expressing concern over Ben Johnson as well. He is not saying don't do it, but he is definitely pumping the brakes on Ben Johnson that he may be the analytical game to Dan Campbell's old school mindset.

You need both. You need the mindset of a strong leader that really establishes a team culture and playing tough while being aware of the analytics but is not blindly held to them.

 

[Dstone5553]

The only problem is that Poles is the one who is going to make this hire.

That doesn't provide anyone here with confidence.

We are all pretty used to that...the no confidence part.

 

[msadows]

I’m sorry can you bold where I typed the word genius in the OP?

Not specifically you. I'm just saying, what does he do so impressive that will be replicated here?

A lot of it is two fantastic running backs behind the best OL in the NFL.

He nearly lost them the game yesterday with his play selection in the 2nd half.

 

[DaaBears]

Vrabel, and I think the Giants will want him too.

 

[Rise]

I don’t trust that Ben Johnson can command the room. He doesn’t come off as some inspiring leader to me. I think he is the perfect right hand man brain to a guy like Campbell.

Honestly I’m excited to see how Thomas Brown is. He comes off as the type who can inspire a room and that’s a huge part of being the HC. He also seems to be damn good at calling plays, which is the second thing we need.

Sean McVay had this guy as his Asst HC for a reason. Look at two of the best ran franchises HCs in Steelers and Packers. Think to yourself why were they chosen? Hell Lefluer had the 30th ranked offense.

Now don’t get me twisted I’m not 100% on Thomas Brown long term but I’m excited they made the correct move which is let’s find out these last 5 weeks how he is.

 

[Enasic]

The only problem is that Poles is the one who is going to make this hire.

That doesn't provide anyone here with confidence.

We are all pretty used to that...the no confidence part.

Poles, Ian, and Warren will all be in on the hire and George has ultimate sign off. You can’t put it all on Poles.

For example, let me ask you this: If Poles tells George he wants to hire say, Jon Gruden, do you think George signs off? There’s no way.

People who believe “Poles will be making the hire” are not seeing the full picture. Can’t say he’s making the hire when he won’t be able to hire anyone he wants no matter what.

 

[Midway Monsters]

I don’t know. That Penei Sewell trick play reminded me of shit Waldron would do.

 

[zabavka]

Think it's Kingsbury cause of the Caleb connection.

Don't 100% agree with it but it makes the most sense.

 

[HeHateMe]

It’s obvious that Ben Johnson is the overwhelming best HC candidate this year.

He has built on last year’s success and has taken it a step further this year absolutely clowning teams with trick plays and not really keeping it close in many games.

Idk how he is as a leader as we’ve seen other guys fail like Josh Mcdaniels.

Id be scared to lock into any coach for longer than 3 years, but I really hope the bears just take the incredibly obvious route here and do what it takes to get Ben Johnson to be HC for the Chicago bears.

Inb4 people are hesitant because they are overestimated in the success of the Lions' hc. The confidence of what the Lions do is because of their OC imo. Let's get it!

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

Think it's Kingsbury cause of the Caleb connection.

Don't 100% agree with it but it makes the most sense.

I hear you. But one thing is the connection he has with Caleb. The other thing is can he do the rest of the 100 things a HC does? That has to come with it too.

 

[SugarWalls]

Not specifically you. I'm just saying, what does he do so impressive that will be replicated here?

A lot of it is two fantastic running backs behind the best OL in the NFL.

He nearly lost them the game yesterday with his play selection in the 2nd half.

Turns out any good team is going to have an at least decent or good OL.

Why would we discredit him for the that?

The lions are second in the NFL in yards per attempt with noodle armed Goff.

I think the stats include last weeks game but the lions currently are in the top spot in passing yards.

Lions are 3rd in the league in rushing yards, 1st in the league in total touchdowns, 2nd in the NFL in total YPG, 1st in the NFL in total PPG.

I’m just supposed to dismiss all of that because the OL is good and because they ‘almost lost’ last week because they didn’t run the ball enough?

Give me a fckn break

 

[Unannounced Fart]

Think it's Kingsbury cause of the Caleb connection.

Don't 100% agree with it but it makes the most sense.

I hope it ain't Kingsbury. History has shown that he always starts out hot and then turns to shit. It's happening with the Commanders now, too.

 

[4THQUARTERCLUTCHLER]

Vrabel, and I think the Giants will want him too.

That would be my last choice another defensive minded coach who will never get us over the hump, no thanks.

 

[Canth]

Here's another tidbit I heard from Briggs that really stood out.

He commented that he essentially wanted Trestman gone after their first meeting. It was immediate and obvious to him that Trestman was not a good fit.

Along those lines and thinking back to when they were doing all the pre-draft work on Caleb, why not involve the players more in the final decision on the HC? They had the team leaders have dinner with Caleb and they all got to know each other a bit before making the final decision.

I realize that could be a slippery slope, maybe it's a horrible idea, but there is a part of me as well that goes...if you have the HC you intend to hire meet with your team captains and they all come away impressed then I think you are on the right path. But, if the guy you are thinking of hiring just falls completely flat with your team captains, probably should find someone else.

 

[BNB]

Is he that good?

Being an OC is easy in the NFL when you have the best OL in football by a large margin.

His "genius" self passed the ball 34 times yesterday when they were running all over the bears defense, allowing the bears to come back in the 2nd half.

11 rushing attempts in the 2nd half. This is the genius?

That isn't what makes him a genius. And end round to Penei Sewell who looked like he was going to attempt a pass is what makes him a genius.