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The NFL really needs to establish what a catch it. It's becoming a guessing game between the refs. Just last season this was ruled a INT:
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The NFL really needs to establish what a catch it. It's becoming a guessing game between the refs. Just last season this was ruled a INT:
I don't know why it is so hard. It never used to be this difficult. The only problem they had was the judgment of whether a player was forced out and would have came down in bounds. Thankfully they got rid of that stupid rule. But why add in "the process", "football moves", "runner", "going to the ground". Jesus, it doesn't have to be that complicated.
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What bothers me is one week everything is called, the next they're just "letting them play." Need some consistency.
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The NFL absolutely needs more consistency in terms of officiating. But, to me, that looked like it should be a catch and the subsequent fumble and recovery (not INT) should not have mattered. And there looked like there was clear evidence to overturn the call.
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What was the clear evidence? Because the VP of Officiating gave the reason of "third foot nearly touching the ground". The ref didn't even give an explanation which makes it even more confusing.
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It appeared that the catch was made and Tate clearly broke the plane of the goal line before the subsequent strip and drop. That is how I perceived it.
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If simply breaking the plane makes it a catch then Freeman's should have been a catch. Or Dez reaching out should have been a catch. You still have to establish possession which doesn't look like Tate did.
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Isn't "establishing possession" pretty much landing with two feet down without the ball wobbling? Because that is my understanding of the meaning behind that.
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Same could be said about this play no?
I would say so, yes.
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The NFL really needs to establish what a catch it. It's becoming a guessing game between the refs. Just last season this was ruled a INT:
He clearly had not established himself as a runner in the above video! Tate clearly had begun to do that. The big question is, WAS THE SECOND FOOT DOWN BEFORE THE STRIP? I'm not sure either way. Having watched the re-play a 100 times, I'm thinking it should have been ruled an incomplete pass because Anderson did not complete the process either.
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The biggest problem with the reversal was this...I don't think there was definitive evidence to overturn the call. Had they called it a TD I would have hoped for an overturn call but I wouldn't expect it either because there just isn't definitive evidence. But that is my opinion.
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That exactly my feelings too.
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This shit is getting so old that I feel like I wanna quit watching the nfl and move on to college.. I love the Bears and all, but I hate the refs bias against the Bears.. And before u ***** at me that I'm a homer or troll, open your damn eyes because it's so fucken obvious. they have something against one of the oldest team in football for some damn reason. For example that McPhee penalty for roughing the passer. To me that was a big horseshit call since it looked like one of the offensive lineman pushed him into fat Matt. Oh but the refs were so damn quick to bail them out with a flag during crucial times. Now let's forward to the packers vs chargers.. Chargers were punting at the 50 yard line and a packer clearly knocks out their punter and injures him. do we see a flag for that obvious foul? nope. Why? because the refs were claiming that the packer was pushed into the punter. Fucken bullshit. Well **** this...enough is enough. So sick and tired of watching fudge packers getting bailed game in game out, not getting any holding calls on their offense line, etc.( baktiari or however the **** u spell his name) gets away with so many holds it ain't funny..and when something gets called against them, their fan base will cry about it for years, and then turn around and talk shit on bear fans for complaining about bs calls.. Now for the Bears on the other hand the zebras never seem to miss a call against them..these calls yesterday were so damn bad it actually made me laugh..
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This has been the problem since the beginning of instant replay. Indisputable visual evidence to overturn has always been tossed out the window.
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Same could be said about this play no?
Fuller was pulling the ball away from his body before Tate even had his second foot down. I can deal with all the other bad officiating against both teams (well I'd rather them just get better at officiating) but the TD/INT was just mind blowing. How you overturn something with that much grey area I'll never understand. I'd probably feel a little better about it if the NFL would come out and say how bogus that was.
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Whats even worse is you have announcers showing footage of similar plays that didnt count as touchdowns...so they looked at those and felt confident it was a int. Even Fox's head guy Mike P. felt it was int....then they overturn it....just like the Bennett play no evidence or marker to move that football back...yet he does....crock of shit
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That's not even close to accurate. Sure there's times it's seemingly unjustified to many to overturn and it gets overturned. But there's multiple hundreds of times you get the "Play stands" result because of that issue of not having Indisputable evidence.
I didn't think Tate was really at the point going to the ground for that concept to be applied to determining if it was a catch yet or not. I think because he was already stepping away with the ball before the strip and fall down he isn't going down, not like CJ was going down clearly, even under his own accord in his "drop" aka letting go of the ball as I use it to boost myself up to celebrate a TD.
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We have those Grimson college threads so he doesn't have to go far.