The Walking Dead

[airtime143]

That 2nd spinoff with the teens looks dreadful.

I just miss Shane, man. The show was great for a handful of seasons but it's never been the same for me since they killed my guy.

I have watched the entire runs of dead and fear multiple times since I got hooked (the episode after carls death was the first one I saw live catching up).

Have enjoyed the shit out of both.

That said, I have not been compelled to watch a second of the new spinoff.

Even knowing it might have Easter eggs to the other shows, I just can't do it.

I have hated every kid on the main shows...the only kid scene I enjoyed was when that kid got his coconut chomped by a couple walkers out of nowhere.
That was grade a entertainment.

 

[airtime143]

Tonight's episode is filler to be sure, but is worthwhile.
No spoilers here, just an endorsement.

It is nothing more than a look at how shitty and bleak the struggle to keep going is.

It was refreshing to have an episode that overall is not trying to cram depth of character in to someone- they literally could jave used anyone from the show or 2 absolute random nobodies you never see again in it.

It is the first realistic depiction of the disgusting and horrible grind that reality would be that I have seen in many seasons.

 

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[RacerX]

I thought this most recent episode was well produced and directed, and easily one of the most interesting episodes from the past few years.

 

[Sculpt]

I thought this most recent episode was well produced and directed, and easily one of the most interesting episodes from the past few years.

Yeah, it's a script very fitting the setting of The Walking Dead. So I guess the boar owner was dead? Or was that left iffy for a reason?

 

[airtime143]

Yeah, it's a script very fitting the setting of The Walking Dead. So I guess the boar owner was dead? Or was that left iffy for a reason?

No- Gabriel crushed his skull.
Dead as a doornail.

 

[airtime143]

I thought this most recent episode was well produced and directed, and easily one of the most interesting episodes from the past few years.

That it was. Both Gabriel and Aaron did a great job portraying how disgusting and exhausting that reality would be.

Gabriel getting drunk and expounding on his influence as a priest actually felt like a natural conversation unlike all the other recent bits where characters are given monologs to create depth.

I did enjoy Gabriel wasting the dude out of nowhere while Aaron was talking, and the look of shock and horror on aarons face afterward.

I also enjoyed the muddy waters of right and wrong with that killing.
Gabriel was an asshole for a couple minutes for not letting this dude join them... until you see he had his twin brother locked up next to the corpses of his family.

It kind of underscored what that dude was saying- nothing but killers and horrible people are left.

As for the production and direction... it was pretty damn good. The opening scenes told the whole story without words.
Everything good and pure gets soaked with blood, and Gabriel and Aaron disturb and dispatch a long dormant monster.

 

[Sculpt]

No- Gabriel crushed his skull.
Dead as a doornail.

OK, I accept Mays is dead. But I'm just saying, looking at scene, I don't see a crushed skull. Don't know if you're going by the sound? But, I'm not totally sure a man could crush the skull hitting it with the end of Arron's spike-ball. Maybe arron's spike ball is solid? I kinda thought it wasn't. Here's the scene below. To my eyes, I would say he could still be alive, you know, with some help. Without help, depends... lol

 

[airtime143]

OK, I accept Mays is dead. But I'm just saying, looking at scene, I don't see a crushed skull. Don't know if you're going by the sound? But, I'm not totally sure a man could crush the skull hitting it with the end of Arron's spike-ball. Maybe arron's spike ball is solid? I kinda thought it wasn't. Here's the scene below. To my eyes, I would say he could still be alive, you know, with some help. Without help, depends... lol

At first watching, when they pan back it kind of looks like he has a divot on the left side of his head.
Beyond that, I always assume a slight whomp to the head is fatal in that world....
one of my pet peeves for that show is how easily skulls are breached.
weaklings consistently punch knives in to skulls like butter.

My all time biggest ***** on that front is the number of times we see Daryl stab a walker through the head with an arrow with a field point clenched in his fist.
I have tried stabbing an arrow in to a cantaloupe, and it is far too skinny to grip and punch through a skull. I dont care how strong a human is, I doubt they could hold it mid shaft and breach a skull.

long story short, I think skulls are made of paper mache in that universe.



edit- I assume he is dead, but I see what you are getting at.
Personally, Glen almost dying a zillion times makes me not believe someone is dead unless the guts are spread over a 50 foot area.
I am still waiting for madison to return on FTWD, because she didnt die on screen and all you saw was the reflection of flames.
My #called it on that is she will turn up and maybe be the one that saved Morgan.

 

[Sculpt]

At first watching, when they pan back it kind of looks like he has a divot on the left side of his head.
Beyond that, I always assume a slight whomp to the head is fatal in that world....
one of my pet peeves for that show is how easily skulls are breached.
weaklings consistently punch knives in to skulls like butter.

My all time biggest ***** on that front is the number of times we see Daryl stab a walker through the head with an arrow with a field point clenched in his fist.
I have tried stabbing an arrow in to a cantaloupe, and it is far too skinny to grip and punch through a skull. I dont care how strong a human is, I doubt they could hold it mid shaft and breach a skull.

long story short, I think skulls are made of paper mache in that universe.



edit- I assume he is dead, but I see what you are getting at.
Personally, Glen almost dying a zillion times makes me not believe someone is dead unless the guts are spread over a 50 foot area.
I am still waiting for madison to return on FTWD, because she didnt die on screen and all you saw was the reflection of flames.
My #called it on that is she will turn up and maybe be the one that saved Morgan.

I know, the ease of the skull penetration has often been comical. The actors have done it so often it's hard for them not to do it lackadaisically.

The show never gets into the physics of the zombie, which is both silly to get into but also is a fun subject. It's easy enough to assume the zombies suffer from Osteomalacia, or bone softening, as a condition. There's sort of a horror film convention that zombie bodies are decaying, and thus softer skulls, but real decay would be extremely rapid, where bodies would not survive multiple years.

 

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I know, the ease of the skull penetration has often been comical. The actors have done it so often it's hard for them not to do it lackadaisically.

The show never gets into the physics of the zombie, which is both silly to get into but also is a fun subject. It's easy enough to assume the zombies suffer from Osteomalacia, or bone softening, as a condition. There's sort of a horror film convention that zombie bodies are decaying, and thus softer skulls, but real decay would be extremely rapid, where bodies would not survive multiple years.

I would totally be down with decay being the reason... but then you see them do the same with fresh kills.

I mentioned it before waaaaay back in this thread that I sure would love to see the zombies kind of morph depending on age-
Have the fresh ones move pretty swiftly and fluidly, but be dumb as dirt.
then, have the older ones suffer from decay and move slowly and clumsily, yet let their instinctive brain be a little craftier.

Nothing too fancy, but playing dead, or hiding to a degree. Maybe learn to grasp and turn doorknobs.


I kind of thought they would explore that early on when you see one zombie use a rock to break the glass in the store in atlanta, and Morgans wife trying the door...
but then they took all that away.

 

[airtime143]

The past couple have been filler... but I am kind of eager to see the next one..."here's Negan".

Of all the characters, Negan is the one whos background I am dying to find out.

We know he lost his wife early in this, and she was sick.
We know he didnt put her down.
We know he and Simon were working at the sanctuary under someone else before he and Simon took over.

Beyond that, he is a compelling mystery.
Were I given the chance to pick anything in that universe to make a 1 season show on, it would be the rise of Negan.

Needless to say, I am really hyped about this and will be watching it the day it becomes available.

 

[Penny Traitor]

The past couple have been filler

I just binged watched the first four episodes of this "season" and will probably check out last night's episode tonight.

The very first episode (Home Sweet Home) feels like the only episode that got a lot of shooting done prior to everything coming to a screeching halt last spring IRL.

Every other episode after feel like total "quarantine" episodes. They have split all the principal actors into small groups of two for each episode with very few extra characters.

(The Princess Episode may have had three, but I am not convinced that was not a stand in for Eugene behind that grate & his lines were dubbed in later)

The Negan Episode is going to have Lucille played by his IRL wife to alleviate COVID concerns.

Even the walkers are wearing full facial appliances to hide the surgical masks they probably have on underneath.

While these were all stories that were planned on being covered...I bet they spent the summer doing massive rewrites just to have something for this year then you get the bloated final season next fall.

 

[Ares]

My favorite soup is fish and leaves.

I found it kinda funny they just left that hanging after all the stone soup references lol

 

[Penny Traitor]

These two Daryll/Carol episodes makes me realize I will probably have zero interest in their "spin off ".

I am kind of eager to see the next one..."here's Negan".

Me too.

I need a shot of some old school Negan to get me back on his side.

I have recently turned on this New Negan and honestly now want to see Maggie murder him in the most brutal way possible.

Like literally chop him into pieces.

 

[airtime143]

These two Daryll/Carol episodes makes me realize I will probably have zero interest in their "spin off ".



Me too.

I need a shot of some old school Negan to get me back on his side.

I have recently turned on this New Negan and honestly now want to see Maggie murder him in the most brutal way possible.

Like literally chop him into pieces.

I am going the other direction- I would like to see negan christen newly found lucille on maggies dome.

On the Daryl Carol spinoff- Love me some Daryl but the sole focus of a show? I am pretty skeptical.

 

[Penny Traitor]

I am going the other direction- I would like to see negan christen newly found lucille on maggies dome.

This would also be an acceptable outcome.

Bonus points if he does it where little Hershel sees it all.

 

[Sculpt]

These two Daryll/Carol episodes makes me realize I will probably have zero interest in their "spin off ".

Tell me about it. Last ep Diverged sucked.

The Walking Dead S10E "Diverged":
Very pedestrian episode

It was like old scenes we've seen a hundred times being re-enacted by Daryl and Carol. Such as Daryl underneath a broken-down vehicle and tips down on him when the zombie moves to the back seat. They didn't even take the time to make that a little suspenseful. I couldn't even see how Daryl was being touched by the car. We didn't learn anything new about them. We didn't learn anything new at all.

I need a shot of some old school Negan to get me back on his side.

I have recently turned on this New Negan and honestly now want to see Maggie murder him in the most brutal way possible.

Like literally chop him into pieces.

You saying Reformed Negan -- even the type who can turn-on the old school Negan to kill Alpha -- is just too boring or annoying to watch? The 'Negan in Whisperers camp' was the best ep of the year, so I think I know what you mean. ?

 

[Penny Traitor]

You saying Reformed Negan -- even the type who can turn-on the old school Negan to kill Alpha -- is just too boring or annoying to watch? The 'Negan in Whisperers camp' was the best ep of the year, so I think I know what you mean

Yeah Negan kills the Alpha, but only after porking her and then trying to bond with her daughter over it.

Then Negan sees Maggie and sheepishly waves with a "Hey Maggie" like he never beat her man into a puddle of goo.

It's not even really all about Negan. TWD has lost it's brutality and I want it back. We are too far in for me to care about all this emotional crap anymore. It's survival horror...I want a body count.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

This shit is still going? I lost interest when Negan was the bad guy and haven't watched since. Should I re-visit?