THIRTY SIX HOURS OUT - DRAFT HEAT CHECK THREAD

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He's a starter tho.

He's fantastic against the run and a big reason the bears were one of the best in the league.

If you draft murphy then gervon hits the bench, which means the guy who outplayed the consensus #1 defensive player in last years draft in the 2nd half of the season is on the bench.

Just makes no sense to me. Pickens also a high 3rd, and Walker rotates in on passing downs.

If we were discussing a 3rd or 4th round DT I'd get it, but this seems like putting too many cooks in the kitchen for me, but im very high on dexter.
No, I think that if you draft a DT high, that Billings is on the chopping block because he does not offer much for the future. While it is nice to have Billings in on expected runs and Walker in on expected passes, they do not combine to be a long term plan. I think you are overrating what Walker and Billings provide, personally. I think Dexter's performance in the latter half of the season supports the thought that a rookie DT as a starter can be a good investment for the team, and I dont think that Billings as a great run stopper dissuades you from drafting a 1st rounder that you hope can be the next big deal between Sweat and Dexter.
 

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LMAO, Campbell had 95 tackles and will only improve. Ryan Poles is miles behind Brad Homes when it comes to draft savy.

Want me to post the comp again for our UDFA(Jack Sanborne) and your first round pick?

Because they are essentially the same player, just jack isnt miserable in pass coverage. And the bears didnt use a draft pick on him in the first round.

DERP

Imagine drafting a SAM linebacker who just tackles in the first round in 2024. Lions drafting like its 1984
 

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Maybe this is why the really want Murphy. He’s like Brock Bowers!

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No, I think that if you draft a DT high, that Billings is on the chopping block because he does not offer much for the future. While it is nice to have Billings in on expected runs and Walker in on expected passes, they do not combine to be a long term plan. I think you are overrating what Walker and Billings provide, personally. I think Dexter's performance in the latter half of the season supports the thought that a rookie DT as a starter can be a good investment for the team, and I dont think that Billings as a great run stopper dissuades you from drafting a 1st rounder that you hope can be the next big deal between Sweat and Dexter.
?!?!?

Ur acting like billings is ancient. Dude just turned 29 and re-upped with the bears. This is year 7 for him and he's still improving. What?
 

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If you carry 4 DTs and 3 are heavily rotated, I would disagree. Pickens as a 3rd round rotational DT sounds about where anyone would expect him to be. Rookie and Dexter are your starters, and you now have a young rotation set for several years. This sounds like a positive to me.
because it is
 

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?!?!?

Ur acting like billings is ancient. Dude just turned 29 and re-upped with the bears. This is year 7 for him and he's still improving. What?
No, I am acting like a 2 year contract, for a veteran who bounces around the league, that totals about 8 million dollars is a neon sign about how valuable he is. He is cheap to have on the team, and cheap to cut if a rookie outplays him. That is a veteran holdover, not a long term plan.

Let's say he plays out his contract here AND Poles drafts a DT in the first round. in 2024, that is Billings as a starter, Dexter as a starter, Rookie in rotation, Pickens in rotation. In 2025, Billings is either a starter or in the rotation, and a rookie still has two years and an option for another year at a predictable cost, and has the prospect of signing another contract here. In 2026, Billings is no longer a Bear. Given that the third year of Jalen Carter's contract is less than $6M, we can assume that that is what the prospective rookie is making in 2026, and stands a good chance to be outplaying his paycheck.

I personally want Poles to draft offense with every draft pick, but DL is not dismissible out of hand. This team is not likely to make a playoff run next year, but they are planning on what the team will look like in 3 years when they ideally start negotiating CW's contract extension. Any 1st rd DL is a good investment.
 

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Want me to post the comp again for our UDFA(Jack Sanborne) and your first round pick?

Because they are essentially the same player, just jack isnt miserable in pass coverage. And the bears didnt use a draft pick on him in the first round.

DERP

Imagine drafting a SAM linebacker who just tackles in the first round in 2024. Lions drafting like its 1984
Apparently, the Lions are great at trading up for situational players...see Williams/Campbell/Gibbs.
 

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Apparently, the Lions are great at trading up for situational players...see Williams/Campbell/Gibbs.

So lucky their first round was trash can they had a chance at a franchise altering one if they did what we all expected and went Carter
 

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Maybe not in the top 10 tho, There are a ton in the 10-20 range

Not sure how much this changes what the bears do as I'll be surprised if anyone goes top 10 outside of ALT.

I really like that bet about mims going in the top 20
Yeah we shall see. There is a large list of OTs that are projected to go round 1. Same with WR.

But that makes the idea of trading up for an OT seems strange, there's a lot of depth there.
 

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Yeah we shall see. There is a large list of OTs that are projected to go round 1. Same with WR.

But that makes the idea of trading up for an OT seems strange, there's a lot of depth there.

From what im guessing its playoff teams trying to trade up into the teens to get a tackle. Would make sense since then you'd be picking through the 5th/6th guy in the late first
 

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Maybe not in the top 10 tho, There are a ton in the 10-20 range

Not sure how much this changes what the bears do as I'll be surprised if anyone goes top 10 outside of ALT.

I really like that bet about mims going in the top 20
If Alt goes 5, another one could come off the board at 7. It’s a massive hole for the Titans.
 

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Maybe not in the top 10 tho, There are a ton in the 10-20 range

Not sure how much this changes what the bears do as I'll be surprised if anyone goes top 10 outside of ALT.

I really like that bet about mims going in the top 20

According to the draft guides.

What if Alt goes 5? OT2 to Tenn. Jets need a tackle. You could have 3 go top 10 easily.

Mock drafts love WR’s but NFL teams love the hogs.

Who knows? Fun draft after the top 3 QBs IMO.
 

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If you carry 4 DTs and 3 are heavily rotated, I would disagree. Pickens as a 3rd round rotational DT sounds about where anyone would expect him to be. Rookie and Dexter are your starters, and you now have a young rotation set for several years. This sounds like a positive to me.
Correct. Drafting a DT w/ 2nd pick probably means that player was highest rated left on their board, not that our DTs aren't good. Dexter, aka..America's Favorite Serial Killer, has plenty of talent. Imo, he takes a big leap in his 2nd season. Pickens too will show improvement. This is why da Bears let Jones go bye-bye, imo. Jones had a good season last year, so I can't see any other reason they let Jones go. I could be wrong. I hope not. If a DT can help da Bears more than an Edge, then draft the DT. I have nothing against that. Trenches!
 

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According to the draft guides.

What if Alt goes 5? OT2 to Tenn. Jets need a tackle. You could have 3 go top 10 easily.

Mock drafts love WR’s but NFL teams love the hogs.

Who knows? Fun draft after the top 3 QBs IMO.
Agree. The media loves to mock the sexy picks, the skill positions. But projected LTs get scooped up in the draft fast.
 

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