This is a pretty good read.

[Giant Panda]

People think having a game manager wins games. That's the QB Bears fans want.

 

[HeHateMe]

The meatball days of the defense leading the way are really done. Yes, the d needs a lot of help. But with the right moves, even with a QB drafted in round 1, you can still get the defense to a point where it would be in the middle of the pack in 1 year when you also factor in free agency. Its over-reacting to me to act like drafting a QB in round 1 means the defense is going to be forgotten. At the end of the day, a QB is more important than a DT or LB or CB, and you can find players good enough, which is all you really need, in free agency and rounds 2-7.

It isn't being a meatball to say that a premier first round DT that makes an immediate impact is going to be better for the Bears contending next year than a 1st round QB that holds a clipboard. I agree with Mick that the Bears shouldn't be short-sighted about contending for championships, but then again, I'm not a meatball like you insinuate.

 

[-Cago34-]

The majority of the negative surrounding him I see are from this board. I have even seen positive reports coming from people who had previously always bashed Cutler.

Umm ok

 

[FirstTimer]

People think having a game manager wins games. That's the QB Bears fans want.

Wut?

 

[Giant Panda]

The bears need more help on defense then a first round QB. Period!

 

[Teddy KGB]

We finally give Cutler weapons, and a offensive mind and everyone starts turning his back on him. It takes about 2-3 years to learn this offense.

Cutler has had to deal with Mike Martz, Tice, midget wr's, JWebb, and whole bunch of issues that have affected his stats.

This bullshit needs to stop.

And it is bullshit.

McCown had the same amount of time in this offense and has taken far fewer snaps in it, yet runs this offense better than Cutler.

Not expecting Jay to have it 100% down, but there has been ZERO signs of him running it as efficiently as McCown.

 

[Bearly]

I hear what your saying about the way Emery and Trestman have backed Jay, but, I can see them going away from Jay. Theres just to much negative surrounding him to ignore other options. This next month or whatever with Jay not playing with shape that decision imo.

I don't think what they say is any more than reinforcement for their players. We've seen Emery smoke screens before. That said, I think they genuinely like Jays potential but what they do won't be out of fandom. They're rather methodical.

 

[Teddy KGB]

The bears need more help on defense then a first round QB. Period!

A first round defensive guy isn't going to be a magic pill that fixes the defense.

 

[HeHateMe]

This bullshit needs to stop.

And it is bullshit.

McCown had the same amount of time in this offense and has taken far fewer snaps in it, yet runs this offense better than Cutler.

Not expecting Jay to have it 100% down, but there has been ZERO signs of him running it as efficiently as McCown.

LOL, you are arguing with Panda after just yesterday posting how you would never argue with him.

 

[-Cago34-]

They don't give a shit about fan reaction. If the locker room is behind Jay and they like him and ownership likes him, then he'll be back.

I just hope Trestman's words after the Lions game don't end up prophetically summing up his Bears Head Coaching career: "Maybe I stuck with Jay too long."

I don't think Emery or Trestman give two shits about how the lockeroom feel about Jay. Not being rude to you, I just disagree about that.

 

[Willis1524]

Umm ok

What negativity were you talking about?

 

[Teddy KGB]

I don't think Emery or Trestman give two shits about how the lockeroom feel about Jay. Not being rude to you, I just disagree about that.

I think it factors in the decision to some degree for both. Not what carries the most weight, but not lost on them either.

 

[FirstTimer]

A first round defensive guy isn't going to be a magic pill that fixes the defense.

This. Everyone goes full on sarcasm with "Oh this magical first round QB will fix the offense"

Well Umm here let me try "Oh this magical first round DT will fix the defense no problem!"

No one is saying there is a magic pill. What is being said is that drafting a QB isn't a bad idea and it's been proven in today's NFL that rookie QB's can come in and be pretty damn productive and successful(if not more so than Cutler) for much cheaper.

 

[HeHateMe]

A first round defensive guy isn't going to be a magic pill that fixes the defense.

Why not?

 

[ijustposthere]

What you highlighted in red is what a lot of us doubters have seen. I won't go as far to say Jays stats have been inflated against prevent defenses or whatever other shit people say, but he hasn't played as well as most here make it out to be, imo.

Lol, ur so full of shit. A lot of you doubters seen this, but it has never been brought up. You didn't see shit..

 

[-Cago34-]

What negativity were you talking about?

Jays on the field play, only.

 

[-Cago34-]

I think it factors in the decision to some degree for both. Not what carries the most weight, but not lost on them either.

Maybe so.

 

[PrideisBears]

Lol, ur so full of shit. A lot of you doubters seen this, but it has never been brought up. You didn't see shit..

He told me the other day that Emery basically decided jay is gone. I thought this thread would be different but you know same people, same crap.

McCown>Cutler because it looks like he runs the offense better
Cutler won't get re-signrd
Qb drafted in 1st round
Cutler defense force




I think that's it

 

[KittiesKorner]

I am waiting for the myth fart to begin that the locker room doesn't like Jay, if it hasn't already

 

[-Cago34-]

Lol, ur so full of shit. A lot of you doubters seen this, but it has never been brought up. You didn't see shit..

Plenty of people including myself have expressed that opinion this year. But LOL if it makes you happy.