Thomas Brown for Head Coach

[dbldrew]

I would be more than fine with that. Or even Vrabel with McDaniels as his OC. If you defang any authority from McDaniels and put him in an OC role he is proven to be more than competent with or without Tom Brady.

100% agree, McDaniels was a terrible HC, but as an OC he has been great

 

[remydat]

Lol sounds like your subjective opinion

And you truly don’t think the playcalling could be better???

My god, the caping you do for failures that you’ve backed, simply because you cannot admit you were wrong is astounding

Feel free to post actual examples as you have offered none. It is just cunting for cunting's sake.

 

[dbldrew]

Ah yes, the "if you take away all the good games/plays he sucks" argument. One of my all-time faves.

When did I say he sucked? And when did I take away good games/plays?

I was replying to Remy bragging about the lack of INT in the Brown run offense. Pointing out that's only because of pure dumb luck that the DB dropped all the INT that was thrown in not something to be bragging about

 

[knoxville7]

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Feel free to post actual examples as you have offered none. It is just cunting for cunting's sake.

already did, dumb dumb...

agreed, its just funny to me how far backwards remy will bend to not give any blame at all to brown. i mean, like you said, the route designs are bad even, which i believe would fall on the passing game coordinator/OC/interim HC....but apparently im mistaken since remy says so

or do route concepts not fall at the OC's feet?

 

[remydat]

This is such a dumb line. I don’t know man…YouTube it? I don’t clip these things. You want to tell me Stephon Gilmore didn’t basically have one on that Bears TD drive late against Minnesota?

He had 3 TWP against Minny so not sure your point. The ones in dispute were GB where he had 0 and the Lions where he had 1.

 

[dbldrew]

I think I’ve seen only 3 dropped easy INT’s. His INT throw rate is above 100, which is above average.

You keep saying there is some proof of this but fail to post any

If I get around to it tonight I will look through the lions game, PFF only has it listed as 1 and there is 3 if not 4 in the lions game alone.

 

[remydat]

agreed, its just funny to me how far backwards remy will bend to not give any blame at all to brown. i mean, like you said, the route designs are bad even, which i believe would fall on the passing game coordinator/OC/interim HC....but apparently im mistaken since remy says so

No you just have offered no proof. There were plenty of boneheaded plays when Waldron was OC and it was routinely pointed out. You havent offered a single example of bad playcalling here. You just deem it so.

I watch the All 22 as well as watch reviews of the All 22 and there arent huge problems playcalling. Anything can be improved but the main issue is the execution.

Now if you disagree then actually provide examples. My examples of poor execution.

2nd drive - Moore drops a pass that probably goes for a first and then a sack on 3rd down where a guy is open underneath.

3rd drive - Moore open on slant with a good chance to get the first on 3rd and 7 and Williams takes a sack.

4th drive - 3rd and 5 and Williams takes a sack where Collins just rag dolls Shelton.

5th drive - 3rd and 2 and Floyd just blows by Jones for the sack.

The above is just terrible execution. Period. Hard to sustain drives when OL, QB and WRs take turns fucking up.

 

[remydat]

already did, dumb dumb...


or do route concepts not fall at the OC's feet?

What route concept? Be specific and show examples. Otherwise it is just a claim with 0 support.

Saying route concepts isnt an example. An example would be showing a specific play with specific route concepts you disagree with.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

There has been poor execution with all 3 oc. Are the players bad? Are the coaches bad? Probably both

 

[dbldrew]

TWP include fumbles so it is not just pass attempts but also includes carries and sacks plays. That is for all QBs not just Caleb.

TWP: Turnover Worthy Plays - a pass that has a high percentage chance to be intercepted or a poor job of taking care of the ball and fumbling

So in the debate about throwing the ball to the wrong team, you bring up a stat that includes fumbles? Lol

Also PFF and you still can not do math.
117 pass attempts, 11 sacks, and 19 rushes is 147 plays, with the 4 TWP that's 2.7 not 2.6 and that is accepting the absurd stat that there was only 1 in the lions game and 0 in the GB game.

 

[knoxville7]

What route concept? Be specific and show examples. Otherwise it is just a claim with 0 support.

Saying route concepts isnt an example. An example would be showing a specific play with specific route concepts you disagree with.

lmao if you have that kind of free time to waste on a garbage football team, go right ahead. but, far too many times receivers are in the same area. that is a route concept issue and is factual

but, i and others can absolutely state that the offensive playcalling, route concepts, and scheme are trash. just like you can claim its all the players fault(even though most of us know better since some of these players have done well elsewhere). so what has changed? the players suddenly all suck when they get here? or is there more to it than that? I.E - coaching?

but hey, i know you enjoy being cucked by the bears HC staff

remy - please stay away from shotguns. but if you must, please save the brane for research!

 

[remydat]

So in the debate about throwing the ball to the wrong team, you bring up a stat that includes fumbles? Lol

Also PFF and you still can not do math.
117 pass attempts, 11 sacks, and 19 rushes is 147 plays, with the 4 TWP that's 2.7 not 2.6 and that is accepting the absurd stat that there was only 1 in the lions game and 0 in the GB game.

In this debate you have brought up 0 evidence besides because you said so. Again where is your evidence and how does he compare to other QBs? Please cite your evidence.

He had 2 TWP against San Fran which I presume was the fumble and one pass.

 

[remydat]

lmao if you have that kind of free time to waste on a garbage football team, go right ahead.

but, i and others can absolutely state that the offensive playcalling, route concepts, and scheme are trash. just like you can claim its all the players fault(even though most of us know better since some of these players have done well elsewhere). so what has changed? the players suddenly all suck when they get here? or is there more to it than that? I.E - coaching?

but hey, i know you enjoy being cucked by the bears HC staff

Except I gave you examples of the players poor execution. You have offered no examples to support your claims. Lets revisit when you stop being lazy and actually provide evidence.

 

[knoxville7]

Except I gave you examples of the players poor execution. You have offered no examples to support your claims. Lets revisit when you stop being lazy and actuall provide evidence.

lmao if you have that kind of free time to waste on a garbage football team, go right ahead. but, far too many times receivers are in the same area. that is a route concept issue and is factual

but, i and others can absolutely state that the offensive playcalling, route concepts, and scheme are trash. just like you can claim its all the players fault(even though most of us know better since some of these players have done well elsewhere). so what has changed? the players suddenly all suck when they get here? or is there more to it than that? I.E - coaching?

but hey, i know you enjoy being cucked by the bears HC staff

remy - please stay away from shotguns. but if you must, please save the brane for research!

i did already

 

[remydat]

i did already

That is not an example. That is an assertion . An example would be you detailing the exact play where you saw this.

Can you show any examples that show his route concepts were a significant issue yesterday?

 

[dbldrew]

In this debate you have brought up 0 evidence besides because you said so. Again where is your evidence and how does he compare to other QBs? Please cite your evidence.

He had 2 TWP against San Fran which I presume was the fumble and one pass.

Me sayings he got lucky with all the drops from the DB is much better then you bringing in stats that do not accurately represent potential INT and falsifying the numbers several times on top of that.

You have been cought lying again

 

[remydat]

Me sayings he got lucky with all the drops from the DB is much better then you bringing in stats that do not accurately represent potential INT and falsifying the numbers several times on top of that.

You have been cought lying again

No it isnt better. You have provided zero evidence. That is always worse than someone with actual evidence. I lied about nothing. I gave you the data from PFF. Now where is your evidence?



So his TWP are middle of the pack and the reality still remains he has 7 TDs and 0 ints under Brown.

 

[truthbedamned]

Could anyone imagine the agony of having to work for this man?

 

[dbldrew]

No it isnt better. You have provided zero evidence. That is always worse than someone with actual evidence. I lied about nothing. I gave you the data from PFF. Now where is your evidence?

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So his TWP are middle of the pack and the reality still remains he has 7 TDs and 0 ints under Brown.

No Remy what I did was post my opinion on something, what you did was post something as a fact, that you lied and manipulated the numbers. What you did was much much worse.

You have a history of being full of shit, this is just another example

 

[remydat]

No Remy what I did was post my opinion on something, what you did was post something as a fact, that you lied and manipulated the numbers. What you did was much much worse.

You have a history of being full of shit, this is just another example

Nope.

The reality is the CW/ Brown offense puts the ball into the other teams hands, thats the reality. If you are happy with pure dumb luck that your stat sheet is still clean then OK.

The above is not your opinion. You stated this as reality ie a fact. You have zero evidence to support this and tried to pass off your opinion as fact ie reality.

Except it doesnt. Caleb's TWP% is 2.4% which is 11th best in NFL.

2.6% the 3 games TB has been OC so you are still wrong. He had 0 TWP against GB, 3 against Minny and 1 against the Lions.

By contrast I gave you a very specific stat from PFF over the course of the season and when you asked for the 3 games Brown has been coach. So it is a fact that those are the PFF numbers as TWP% is a specific term used by PFF.

Let's revisit when you have proof of the reality you claim. Look forward to you providing examples from the Lions game like you said you would.