Thomas Brown for Head Coach

[knoxville7]

That is not an example. That is an assertion . An example would be you detailing the exact play where you saw this.

Can you show any examples that show his route concepts were a significant issue yesterday?

i see it weekly during games. am i going to take the time out of my day to go find screenshots of it so that you can go on a different tangent for why nothing is thomas browns fault? no, no i am not.

enjoy glazing up Mr. Browns rod, im sure it breaks matt eberflus' heart to hear of it

 

[remydat]

i see it weekly during games. am i going to take the time out of my day to go find screenshots of it so that you can go on a different tangent for why nothing is thomas browns fault? no, no i am not.

enjoy glazing up Mr. Browns rod, im sure it breaks matt eberflus' heart to hear of it

Ok so you have no evidence to provide. Also are you aware other teams potentially have this same issue so how are you determining that Brown does it more than other OCs?

 

[remydat]

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

This thread is like the CCS version of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". Everyone who posted in this thread should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Toast88]

Flus f'ers:

'But, but, but....BEARDDDDDD'

Brown bangers:

'But, but, but....LOOKS LIKE TOMLINNNNNN'


Why are Bears fans so obsessed with coaches' looks?

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

Flus f'ers:

'But, but, but....BEARDDDDDD'

Brown bangers:

'But, but, but....LOOKS LIKE TOMLINNNNNN'


Why are Bears fans so obsessed with coaches' looks?

Because no one liked Abe Gibron?

 

[Toast88]

It's always looks, man. Remember how everyone loved Nagy at first because he was a "visor guy"?

Remember how a lot of people were immediately OUT on Trestman because he looked like a nerd?

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

It's always looks, man. Remember how everyone loved Nagy at first because he was a "visor guy"?

Remember how a lot of people were immediately OUT on Trestman because he looked like a nerd?

Nagy looked like a huge ****** to me. JMO. Trestman didn't really look like a nerd, but he did look like Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

 

[knoxville7]

Ok so you have no evidence to provide. Also are you aware other teams potentially have this same issue so how are you determining that Brown does it more than other OCs?

incorrect, i provided the evidence. just cuz im not going out of my way to show you doesnt make it untrue.

and sure, im aware other teams might struggle with spacing routes. why does that matter? why can we not judge thomas brown on his own merits??

 

[remydat]

incorrect, i provided the evidence. just cuz im not going out of my way to show you doesnt make it untrue.

and sure, im aware other teams might struggle with spacing routes. why does that matter? why can we not judge thomas brown on his own merits??

Think you are confusing a claim with evidence of that claim. Your claim is they have route concept issues. Your evidence of that is because you said so.

It matters because if good playcallers still have spacing issues on routes them it isnt really clear proof playcalling was an ossue unless it was more than normal.

 

[knoxville7]

Think you are confusing a claim with evidence of that claim. Your claim is they have route concept issues. Your evidence of that is because you said so.

It matters because if good playcallers still have spacing issues on routes them it isnt really clear proof playcalling was an ossue unless it was more than normal.

no, my evidence is what i see every week on the tv screen. and what you see every week, whether you want to acknowledge it or not

and who said good playcallers have spacing issues?? now youre just making shit up

 

[dbldrew]

Nope.


The above is not your opinion. You stated this as reality ie a fact. You have zero evidence to support this and tried to pass off your opinion as fact ie reality.




By contrast I gave you a very specific stat from PFF over the course of the season and when you asked for the 3 games Brown has been coach. So it is a fact that those are the PFF numbers as TWP% is a specific term used by PFF.

Let's revisit when you have proof of the reality you claim. Look forward to you providing examples from the Lions game like you said you would.

So these are the plays I remember from the Lions game, a few of them seemed worse in real time compared to watching in slow motion, like the player with a closed fist, yes the ball went through his hands but he was obviously trying to knock the ball away vs catch it.

But one thing we can now say for a fact is yes the CW/Brown offence likes to put the ball in the other teams hands, and also PFF is a joke only having 1 TWP in this clusterfuck of a game.

edit @bamainatlanta you wanted examples, here they are

 

[remydat]

no, my evidence is what i see every week on the tv screen. and what you see every week, whether you want to acknowledge it or not

and who said good playcallers have spacing issues?? now youre just making shit up

It isnt evidence if you can't produce it.

I said "if good playcallers have spacing issues. . ." I dont know if they do or dont as I have no evidence. Neither do you which is the point.

 

[remydat]

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So these are the plays I remember from the Lions game, a few of them seemed worse in real time compared to watching in slow motion, like the player with a closed fist, yes the ball went through his hands but he was obviously trying to knock the ball away vs catch it.

But one thing we can now say for a fact is yes the CW/Brown offence likes to put the ball in the other teams hands, and also PFF is a joke only having 1 TWP in this clusterfuck of a game.

Lol most of these are not in fact TWP. Tbey are mainly one on one balls and throws with a low percentage chance of being caught.

All of those plays except the last has a Bears playing also fighting for the ball. They are poorly thrown 50-50 balls not TWP. A TWP play like a drop has to be a ball that a WR/DB stands a good chance of catching not merely getting their hands on it in a constested catch situation.

 

[dbldrew]

Lol most of these are not in fact TWP. Tbey are mainly one on one balls and throws with a low percentage chance of being caught.

All of those plays except the last has a Bears playing also fighting for the ball. They are poorly thrown 50-50 balls not TWP. A TWP play like a drop has to be a ball that a WR/DB stands a good chance of catching not merely getting their hands on it in a constested catch situation.

I dont care about the stupid TWP stat, you brought it up and when they only find 1 TWP in a game like that its a seriously flawed stat that we can all ignore.

CW could of easly had 5 int in that game alone so when you say things like this..

Caleb now has 7 TDs and 0 ints under Brown in 4 games.

Only so much you can do when the players cant execute.

He has 4 more games to go.

and I reply with this..

Yep thank God DB can't catch

the above pictures are why you praising the Brown/CW offense is silly

 

[remydat]

I dont care about the stupid TWP stat, you brought it up and when they only find 1 TWP in a game like that its a seriously flawed stat that we can all ignore.

CW could of easly had 5 int in that game alone so when you say things like this..


and I reply with this..


the above pictures are why you praising the Brown/CW offense is silly

No he couldnt easily have 5 ints in that game because most of passes were contested. Hence why they were not caught.

The facts are he has 7 Tds and 0 ints under Brown. Anything else is you speculating based on passes that were clearly not all that catchable hence why they werent caught.

 

[jsu34]

• Not a perfect prediction:
  While turnover-worthy percentage gives insight into potential turnover situations, it doesn't guarantee that a turnover will actually happen on every play considered "turnover-worthy".

I posted this because I think people are trying to say that Caleb's almost turnovers were something to count. The stat itself doesn't mean it would have resulted in a turnover.

So if I look at it, I'd say this is s nothing burger. If the balls weren't intercepted/recovered by the other team, it means nothing.

 

[Canth]

I don't know what the hell this is, but you can't do this at the NFL level. Is this scheme related, the playcall, bad execution, all 3? I don't know but this is dumb.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1865947684051276255

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

The facts are he has 7 Tds and 0 ints under Brown. Anything else is you speculating based on passes that were clearly not all that catchable hence why they werent caught.

How many chances to you get to throw INTs when you are constantly going 3-and-out. The Bears haven't won a game during Caleb's non-INT streak, so I think its more of an oddity than a yardstick of success.

 

[remydat]

How many chances to you get to throw INTs when you are constantly going 3-and-out. The Bears haven't won a game during Caleb's non-INT streak, so I think its more of an oddity than a yardstick of success.

Yes in large part because of other issues.