Thoughts after the season

[anotheridiot]

My thought here is Washington might let him go trying to keep Rendon. This is just my idea of what a "perfect" offseason would look like.

They "only" offered Rendon 210, so pretty sure they could afford to keep Eaton if they wanted to, my guess is they would rather have Soto the king of the outfield

 

[CSF77]

I don't think they trade any of these: Bryant, Rizzo, Schwarber, Baez, Contreras. Heyward is not tradeable because of contract reasons. Hoerner will handle second base. That leaves Happ/Almora as the trade chips, what can be had for them is up for debate.

It still leaves CF or RF open.

Ok if they wanted to they could run

Horner 2B untested
Bryant 3B
Rizzo 1B
Baez SS
Schwarber LF
Contreras C
Heyward CF/RF
Happ CF/RF

call it a day.

Now I would not do this myself but Theo could do this.

Looking at this from a simpler viewpoint.

What do they need.

A CF

A Lead off.

So do both in one person.

Kevin Kramier was tossed around. Bradley Jr is another. Not a good lead off though. Blackman but he has degraded some but smaller park.

So just some simple ideas. Almora + prospects for Jr would lessen the payroll for Boston. He made 8.5 and most likely goes up to 10. Almora might cost 2M. 8 mil off the books.

Price is their biggest hit right now. That is the guy that they most likely want to go away. 31M. Cubs could use him for sure but what to give. I doubt highly that they just absorb it.

But with the Q idea well...Q, Chatwood and Almora.
Price and Jr.

They move 42m and take back 25M savings of 17M

 

[Castor76]

I doubt it.

Boston can remove payroll by trading Betts and reloading their system. He is a top 5 player in baseball and is going to get a haul. There will be a war to get him.

Sale most likey rebounds. You never sell low.

Don't disagree. The question is will Boston be looking to keep Betts or move him. Moving him brings a big hual but also tells their fans don't expect to compete with the Yankees the next 3 seasons. Maybe that's the right move until the Yankees have to start paying or trading.

 

[CSF77]

Cubs could add Morrow andet Boston make the decision on him then.

 

[CSF77]

Don't disagree. The question is will Boston be looking to keep Betts or move him. Moving him brings a big hual but also tells their fans don't expect to compete with the Yankees the next 3 seasons. Maybe that's the right move until the Yankees have to start paying or trading.

Yanks are in the **** pit right now. Ray's have a new wave in hand. Boston should focus on getting their farm out of the shit hole and getting 180 M at max.

That team was hamstringed like the Cubs. Couldnt add a closer. Had to move a starter there. They were fucked and when Sale got dinged they couldn't adjust.

So they are losing Porta as is. They should move the closer back into the starting rotation. Adding Q and Chatwood gives them depth. Almora has value and might Excell with wall ball there. Morrow they could just drop or if he looks sound they have a glaring need in the pen going on. He would be 1.5 years removed from the issue and there is a good chance he is serviceable. If not just pull the string and save some over head.

So it is sound from R.S. end. Cubs end legit #2. GG CF which upgrades RF also.

 

[TL1961]

It still leaves CF or RF open.

Ok if they wanted to they could run

Horner 2B untested
Bryant 3B
Rizzo 1B
Baez SS
Schwarber LF
Contreras C
Heyward CF/RF
Happ CF/RF

call it a day.

Now I would not do this myself but Theo could do this.

Looking at this from a simpler viewpoint.

What do they need.

A CF

A Lead off.

So do both in one person.

Kevin Kramier was tossed around. Bradley Jr is another. Not a good lead off though. Blackman but he has degraded some but smaller park.

So just some simple ideas. Almora + prospects for Jr would lessen the payroll for Boston. He made 8.5 and most likely goes up to 10. Almora might cost 2M. 8 mil off the books.

Price is their biggest hit right now. That is the guy that they most likely want to go away. 31M. Cubs could use him for sure but what to give. I doubt highly that they just absorb it.

But with the Q idea well...Q, Chatwood and Almora.
Price and Jr.

They move 42m and take back 25M savings of 17M

Almora had a negative DRS, and was literally among the bottom five offensively of all players in MLB.

Why do we think a team that wants to contend would trade for him?
If the Cubs can't contend with him starting, why does another contender want him?

 

[TL1961]

The annual Cubs Fan Yard Sale.

I've got this lawn mower that doesn't run, needs a new engine and needs blade sharpening. I'll price it at only $20 more than the brand new models.

And this avocado green refrigerator? Let's price that the same as the stainless steel one we saw in the store.

 

[TL1961]

Not sure we can get Trout for Descalso straight up. We may need to toss in Derek Holland.

 

[CSF77]

Almora had a negative DRS, and was literally among the bottom five offensively of all players in MLB.

Why do we think a team that wants to contend would trade for him?
If the Cubs can't contend with him starting, why does another contender want him?

We don't know if this was a outlier. Age is on his side still. IMO he came in a little overweight.

 

[CSF77]

Add to it. It is more so about dropping payroll.

They could take Q (Decline) Morrow (opt out) Almora (not offer arb) and the Cubs basically move some parts to offset and take on 42M. Boston just wanted to payroll offload and tossed everything because that is what they needed to do.

 

[TL1961]

We don't know if this was a outlier. Age is on his side still. IMO he came in a little overweight.

Then why trade him?

 

[CSF77]

Then why trade him?

Bradley Jr is a upgrade regardless

 

[CSF77]

If it was not for the fact that Boston went over tax this would never happen.

But

Dromboski got ass canned for going over and hamstringing the team. Then he shit canned the farm to boot.

Expect a correction with their new hire.

 

[TL1961]

Bradley Jr is a upgrade regardless

This is just a circular discussion.

You say the Cubs are upgrading, but the red sox apparently are not downgrading.

 

[TL1961]

I can't see Boston getting rid of Bradley Jr and Betts.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Wrigley Field collapses, and the Cubs move to Taiwan.

 

[Diehardfan]

Wrigley Field collapses, and the Cubs move to Taiwan.

And the White Sox still wouldn't draw flies..........

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

And the White Sox still wouldn't draw flies..........

When wins are awarded bc of attendance then maybe you’d have a point.

 

[Castor76]

San Diego will not trade both Urias and Patino for Bryant. It is nice to dream and it would be great for the Cubs, but it will not happen.

Urias would be the key. Maybe move a little further down the list and ask for Ryan Weathers.

 

[Steve_A]

It still leaves CF or RF open.

Ok if they wanted to they could run

Horner 2B untested
Bryant 3B
Rizzo 1B
Baez SS
Schwarber LF
Contreras C
Heyward CF/RF
Happ CF/RF

call it a day.

Now I would not do this myself but Theo could do this.

Looking at this from a simpler viewpoint.

What do they need.

A CF

A Lead off.

So do both in one person.

Kevin Kramier was tossed around. Bradley Jr is another. Not a good lead off though. Blackman but he has degraded some but smaller park.

So just some simple ideas. Almora + prospects for Jr would lessen the payroll for Boston. He made 8.5 and most likely goes up to 10. Almora might cost 2M. 8 mil off the books.

Price is their biggest hit right now. That is the guy that they most likely want to go away. 31M. Cubs could use him for sure but what to give. I doubt highly that they just absorb it.

But with the Q idea well...Q, Chatwood and Almora.
Price and Jr.

They move 42m and take back 25M savings of 17M

Just curious but what is it that makes you feel like they'll definitely shed payroll?
Theo has two more years here.
Shouldn't he do the Dombrowski as well and do what it takes to win?
Even if it means killing the farm?