Three Women Kidnapped By Piece of Human Garbage Are Free

[The Count Dante]

I think the idea is not to get him off, but the prosecution denied a plea bargin from the defense for a guilty verdict with the initial, what 300 some odd charges with the deal of taking death penalty off the table.</p>


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Doesnt hurt that the attorney general is up for re-election next year and this is the single largest amount of counts for any case in Cuyahoga County and 172 pieces of evidence.</p>


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It will play out that the Prosecution is playing hardball and "We will not deal or bargin!" Then the deal with come through and the Attorney General will come forward and pitch that he had to weigh the decision for plea and it was such a difficult decision to accept the plea, but he did so to prevent the increased cost of a trial on the tax payers as well as preventing the victims from being called to trial to relive their horrific events while really milking it for all it is worth because how often does an State Attorney General get an international slam-dunk case to fuel his political career?</p>


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Even his own attorney has said that some of the evidence is irrefutable. But his client intrests is to take death penalty off the table. If the prosecution wont do it, why wouldnt he have his client plead not-guilty?</p>


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NOTE: This man should rot forever in a cage and in no way should the above read as a lack of sympathy for the victims</p>

 

[The Count Dante]

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I think the idea is not to get him off, but the prosecution denied a plea bargin from the defense for a guilty verdict with the initial, what 300 some odd charges with the deal of taking death penalty off the table.</p>


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Doesnt hurt that the attorney general is up for re-election next year and this is the single largest amount of counts for any case in Cuyahoga County and 172 pieces of evidence.</p>


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It will play out that the Prosecution is playing hardball and "We will not deal or bargin!" Then the deal with come through and the Attorney General will come forward and pitch that he had to weigh the decision for plea and it was such a difficult decision to accept the plea, but he did so to prevent the increased cost of a trial on the tax payers as well as preventing the victims from being called to trial to relive their horrific events while really milking it for all it is worth because how often does an State Attorney General get an international slam-dunk case to fuel his political career?</p>


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Even his own attorney has said that some of the evidence is irrefutable. But his client intrests is to take death penalty off the table. If the prosecution wont do it, why wouldnt he have his client plead not-guilty?</p>


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NOTE: This man should rot forever in a cage and in no way should the above read as a lack of sympathy for the victims</p>
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And....</p>


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Jenga...</p>


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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-castro-plea-deal-20130726,0,728821.story?track=rss</p>


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<p style="text-align:left;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(41,39,39);">CLEVELAND -- A former Cleveland school bus driver, <span style="font-size:16px;">Ariel</span> <span style="font-size:16px;">Castro</span>, agreed today to plead guilty and be imprisoned for life for kidnapping and raping three women he held captive in his house for about a decade in one of the most sensational criminal cases in the United States in recent years.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;background-color:rgb(250,250,250);margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(41,39,39);">At a court hearing, Ohio prosecutors in turn agreed that <span style="font-size:16px;">Castro</span> will not be eligible for the death penalty over the disappearance of the women from 2002 to 2004 before they were freed in May along with a 6-year-old girl who, according to DNA evidence, was fathered by <span style="font-size:16px;">Castro</span> with one of his captives.</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

No race riots to be had on this one so not breaking news, move along....</p>


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But seriously, I guess this is good news. Saves a lot of money and hopefully he'll get his in prison anyway. I feel horrible for these women, but even worse for the child, I can't imagine what that kids life is going to turn out like.</p>

 

[Tater]

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No race riots to be had on this one so not breaking news, move along....</p>


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But seriously, I guess this is good news. Saves a lot of money and hopefully he'll get his in prison anyway. I feel horrible for these women, but even worse for the child, I can't imagine what that kids life is going to turn out like.</p>
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I'm sure prison is going to be hell for that guy and hopefully it is.</p>


I think I'd rather have the death penalty if it were me.</p>


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Edit for spelling</p>

 

[The Count Dante]

Life in prison (with full unquestionable guilt) vs state-performed death...</p>


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That is an interesting question.</p>


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I would go death. To me, I hold the notion of a "good death". I did enough crap to be put into prison for the whole of my life, nothing but a drain on society around me, serving no purpose but a sponge?</p>


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Inject/Juice/Shoot/Hang me... It would be a good death.</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

I think the problem is that you cant' get into the head of a guy like that to know that whether or not he cares if he is a drain. I think he's selfish and will take life in prison every time.</p>

 

[The Count Dante]

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I think the problem is that you cant' get into the head of a guy like that to know that whether or not he cares if he is a drain. I think he's selfish and will take life in prison every time.</p>
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No question about it. Self-preservation coupled with fear of death... you never know how you will act until it is staring you in the face.</p>


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It as always been a life plan of mine to "take a walk into the desert" when I am nothing but a drain on anyone around me.</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

I don't think that far ahead, I can honestly say that I don't know what I would do. I know that every now and then when I think about it and it catches me just right in the head I get that deep down gut wrenching sickness that I don't want to die, but hopefully it won't be for a long time and I will live it out long enough to come to terms with that.</p>

 

[IceHogsFan]

About as much justice that can be done in a horrible case like this appears to be happening.</p>


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Castro pleads guilty and goes away for life.</p>


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The house is being torn down.</p>


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Now, if only those poor women could go on with a normal life.......... The victims here and their futures I can only pray that they can lead as much of a normal life as possible.</p>

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Is it true that the reason they add years on to a life sentence is because: If an inmate dies and is revived by medical staff, that is considered serving a "life sentence"?</p>


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I heard that somewhere and it seemed kind of far fetched.</p>

 

[TSD]

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Is it true that the reason they add years on to a life sentence is because: If an inmate dies and is revived by medical staff, that is considered serving a "life sentence"?</p>


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I heard that somewhere and it seemed kind of far fetched.</p>
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From what I understand.  Its as simple as that is the way the law is written.  The judge renders sentences as prescribed to the laws in which the individual broke.  (i.e. kidnapping and murder, the judge would render a sentence for both crimes individually.)  Thats why when a Jury reads a verdict for a murder for example, they often read off a laundry list of crimes that were committed.</p>


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Frankly I couldn't find anything online about your specific comment, must be some urban legend you picked up somewhere.</p>

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

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Is it true that the reason they add years on to a life sentence is because: If an inmate dies and is revived by medical staff, that is considered serving a "life sentence"?


I heard that somewhere and it seemed kind of far fetched.</p>
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No one over on the Bruins board had an answer either? Isn't that where you usually hang out?</p>

 

[MassHavoc]

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Try posting that question over on the Bruins board, isn't that where you usually hang out?</p></blockquote>why is that pertinent to this conversation?

 

[The Count Dante]

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From what I understand.  Its as simple as that is the way the law is written.  The judge renders sentences as prescribed to the laws in which the individual broke.  (i.e. kidnapping and murder, the judge would render a sentence for both crimes individually.)  Thats why when a Jury reads a verdict for a murder for example, they often read off a laundry list of crimes that were committed.</p>


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Frankly I couldn't find anything online about your specific comment, must be some urban legend you picked up somewhere.</p>
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I think it also has to do with like some states not having a "life without parole" so if you have 600 years, that would cover it. Also having to do with pardons/early release and such? Like if they had X amount of years left they cant be considered? Since not all states have a "life imprisonment" that means "until death"? Maybe to pad a DA's numbers? </p>


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Dont really know to be honest...</p>