Trade Down...Stroud?

[JoJoBoxer]

Is there a trade down point to take Stroud to have in a Fields tandem?

My point is where we got Fields, at 15. Give me that bargain again and we are two deep at QB.

The picks we gain allow us to support Fields as well as spending the #1 in Carter/Anderson.

You get a back-up QB and a plan B.
You get more support offense.

If you can get a different piece at 15 I also like the BYU QB in the third. Or TCU QB in the 4th.

So you want to be able to trade down and get Anderson or Carter?

That would be dropping to #4 at the most. The best haul would be to trade down to #2 and then to #4. At best, the Bears get a 2nd rounder this year and next year to move down to #2. They might get a 2nd rounder this year and a 1st and 2nd rounder next year to move down to #4.

You then want to be able to trade up to get Stroud. First, the Bears moved up to 11, not 15 to get Fields. They needed to trade their 1st rounder (#20), a 5th rounder that year and a 1st and a 4th the following year.

They could use a 2024 2nd rounders and the 35 this year to "move to #20". Then they would use the Colts 2024 1st rounder, a 5th rounder this year and a 4th rounder next year. So, a 1st rounder (2024), two 2nd rounders, a 4th rounder (2024) and a 5th rounder to get Stroud as a backup / injury replacement for Fields?

They could add more support for the offense.

They would have 2 2nd rounders left (2023 and 2024) to add to offense.

So, it does seem possible, but wouldn't it be better to add 7 extra players in 2023 and 2024 to add to the offense and defense, seeing how the cupboard is almost bare on both sides of the line?

Edit: Now all you need is for the #2 QB to drop to #11 when there are at least 8 teams up to the 11th pick who have to at least consider drafting a QB, including #11 the Titans who could use a QB too.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

With that big of a trade down we are talking 3 firsts and some other candy. So I feel good about Stroud as a luxury pick I happen to believe in. That's my top guy in this draft and the BYU kid.

You can't have a huge trade down if you want Carter or Anderson too, which you said you also wanted.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

Listen, I want our locker room as relaxed and fun as the next guy but I don't know if we need spend draft capital on extra curricular stuff like that. No offense.

 

[NCChiFan]

It has been working wonders up in Greenbay these last 2-3 years.

 

[Raskolnikov]

well @Raskolnikov I ended up with too many interior DL and not enough DEs but your plan worked out pretty nice despite that:


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This is probably the biggest long shot, still in the realm of possibility for how this would work…

I would love this draft even if Dawan Jones isn’t a scheme fit he might actually be a knarly LG in the system. I think the guy is a secret weapon and must be game planned for.

Landing a top center also. And the line is fixed with one free agent.

Get a NT or 3-tech free agent.

Get a DE.

This is my dream even if you displace Carter for Stroud.

 

[bamainatlanta]

well @Raskolnikov I ended up with too many interior DL and not enough DEs but your plan worked out pretty nice despite that:


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Jadakis Bonds is about 7 picks overdrafted here, IMHO

 

[Anytime23]

if that happens, CCS's least favorite pull-string talking doll @Bust might meltdown.

 

[dabears70]

What are we doing here????????????????

 

[botfly10]

Uh

OK

 

[Tee]

man im so tired of posts suggesting we move on from FIELDS.... please refer your thoughts on other pieces on the team that we truly need to build around Fields.

 

[zabavka]

Listen, I want our locker room as relaxed and fun as the next guy but I don't know if we need spend draft capital on extra curricular stuff like that. No offense.

Hey yo!

 

[bamainatlanta]

@Raskolnikov has some good ideas but sometimes I wonder just exactly how fucking strong of a THC he smokes. Maybe it’s Pineapple Express?

 

[Toast88]

I don't like this as part of a plan to have both Fields and Stroud, but I will say, if you were Poles and had Young and Stroud graded out as better than Fields (just play along)---You could have your cake and eat it too.

-Trade Fields, getting as much as you can, whatever that is.
-Trade back with the Texans at #2 (hopefully the Texans would go for it, believing the Colts or someone else could jump them)
-Get Young or Stroud at #2

^^That way, you would still get *your* QB **and** get major assets at the same time.


All of this, of course, would be dependent on Poles thinking Young & Stroud are better than Fields, which I don't believe, but hey, what the hell else are we going to do the next couple of months but all this weird stuff?

 

[nc0gnet0]

I don't like this as part of a plan to have both Fields and Stroud, but I will say, if you were Poles and had Young and Stroud graded out as better than Fields (just play along)---You could have your cake and eat it too.

-Trade Fields, getting as much as you can, whatever that is.
-Trade back with the Texans at #2 (hopefully the Texans would go for it, believing the Colts or someone else could jump them)
-Get Young or Stroud at #2

^^That way, you would still get *your* QB **and** get major assets at the same time.


All of this, of course, would be dependent on Poles thinking Young & Stroud are better than Fields, which I don't believe, but hey, what the hell else are we going to do the next couple of months but all this weird stuff?

I posted this in another thread, but if, and this is a big crazy IF, the Ravens totally screw the pooch with the Lamar Jackson contract, and are forced to trade him, the Ravens become an interesting trade partner for JF. Their offense is about as plug and play for JF's talents as you will find.

 

[JayQ]

No more OSU QBs that can’t throw the damn ball once they get into the NFL. I’m taking Will Levis after trading Field’s!

 

[HeHateMe]

No more OSU QBs that can’t throw the damn ball once they get into the NFL. I’m taking Will Levis after trading Field’s!

after trading Field's what?

 

[hyatt151]

With that big of a trade down we are talking 3 firsts and some other candy. So I feel good about Stroud as a luxury pick I happen to believe in. That's my top guy in this draft and the BYU kid.

if some GM was offering 3 1sts, the deal would have already been done

 

[hyatt151]

well @Raskolnikov I ended up with too many interior DL and not enough DEs but your plan worked out pretty nice despite that:


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this would actually be a nice draft class

 

[HeHateMe]

this would actually be a nice draft class

thanks

don't tell @gobullschi

 

[hyatt151]

thanks

don't tell @gobullschi

you're welcome, I'd switch the Schmitz and Mazi selections, but the names would remain the same