Tree removal?

[Xuder O'Clam]

I'm not an arborist but if that was a hardwood tree that was that size, the one in question isn't, it would definitely be older than 40-50.

I'm fairly sure soft wood trees grow more quickly, rings spread further apart, hence softer wood.

If I'm wrong and someone knows/understands better than I do please correct me.

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Softwood trees grow more quickly on average, but there are always exceptions to the rule. The fastest growing individual trees are hardwood trees like Poplar, cottonwood, acacia, certain maple cultivars, etc. But trees grow at different rates according to age. For example, some sequoias grow 4-6 feet per year during the first decade or so, and then continue adding 2-3 feet per year for the next 40 or 50 years. This is why redwoods, which are NOT fast growing trees relatively speaking, end up as the tallest trees. They grow for a long, long time.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

So did we figure out how old this fucking tree is?

 

[airtime143]

So did we figure out how old this fucking tree is?

I asked it and it said mind your own business.
I think it was drunk so that put it over 21, because I didnt buy it beer.

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

I'm guessing that the tree is actually a black cottonwood, or balsam poplar (California poplar). They can mature at 60 years, and live to almost 200 years. Grow to 100-150 feet in height in 40 years, and a girth of 2m. My guess is the tree is 40-80 year old max.

 

[airtime143]

I'm guessing that the tree is actually a black cottonwood, or balsam poplar (California poplar). They can mature at 60 years, and live to almost 200 years. Grow to 100-150 feet in height in 40 years, and a girth of 2m. My guess is the tree is 40-80 year old max.

Not a tree guy, but the crew that took it down said russian poplar.

All I can say for certain is that it is not an apple tree nor is it a peach tree. It sure as **** wasnt a money tree.

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

Well, to be fair Russian poplar is a pretty generic term, as is cottonwood. I can't see the leaves, so I am guessing. I'm just saying because these types of trees grow so quickly, mature quickly, and are relatively short lived in comparison to other large trees, it is quite possible the tree is only 50-60 years old, and may possibly have been a "volunteer".

 

[airtime143]

Well, to be fair Russian poplar is a pretty generic term, as is cottonwood. I can't see the leaves, so I am guessing. I'm just saying because these types of trees grow so quickly, mature quickly, and are relatively short lived in comparison to other large trees, it is quite possible the tree is only 50-60 years old, and may possibly have been a "volunteer".

Told you I wasnt a tree guy!

I think his companion is coming down soon as well. I just hate spending 8 grand to get rid of 2 trees. I am in the wrong line of work.

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

I'm no expert. I work with wood a fair bit, and I did a bit of tree removal in my younger, college days. Mostly black spruce and poplar. Not a fun job, and dangerous, particularly around houses and wires. Branch at a time kind of thing, roping and rigging. Poplar trunks like those can actually cause your chainsaw to spark, although the wood itself is kind of soft. It does seem like a lot for two trees though.

 

[airtime143]

I'm no expert. I work with wood a fair bit, and I did a bit of tree removal in my younger, college days. Mostly black spruce and poplar. Not a fun job, and dangerous, particularly around houses and wires. Branch at a time kind of thing, roping and rigging. Poplar trunks like those can actually cause your chainsaw to spark, although the wood itself is kind of soft. It does seem like a lot for two trees though.

They are huge. The guy that did them did an awesome job- the coordination between crane and cutter was impeccable- not even a light tap to the house.

My guy was expensive, but he was good. It will take a pretty deep discount to make me try another company.. And I got one to call thanks to this thread.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

I hope that works out for you. Sounds like a challenging job. I have a couple big oaks and walnuts, and a hickory. The price to just trim is crazy. I had a big oak die a few years back, the neighbor helped take it down for half the wood. We had a clear drop with it so it was an easy job.

 

[Tater]

Glad it worked out for you. Sorry I couldn't come up with a referral for you.

 

[Dogstar]

Well, to be fair Russian poplar is a pretty generic term, as is cottonwood. I can't see the leaves, so I am guessing. I'm just saying because these types of trees grow so quickly, mature quickly, and are relatively short lived in comparison to other large trees, it is quite possible the tree is only 50-60 years old, and may possibly have been a "volunteer".

For shits-n-giggles, I planted a fuzzy in a flower pot about ten years ago. It shot up like 4 feet that spring/summer so I figured "what the heck", and I planted it in the ground. Well.... it didn't stay a sapling for very long. I now have a 40-foot Eastern Cottonwood on the corner of our lot with a trunk as wide as a 5-gallon bucket.

Damn things grow like weeds.

 

[Bigfoot]

I see a lot of firewood for my cave, sorry I couldnt help air. I'm to far away.

 

[airtime143]

I hope that works out for you. Sounds like a challenging job. I have a couple big oaks and walnuts, and a hickory. The price to just trim is crazy. I had a big oak die a few years back, the neighbor helped take it down for half the wood. We had a clear drop with it so it was an easy job.

In the corner of one of my rentals I have a ratty old haggard looking walnut- and my neighbor offers non-stop to take it down for me as long as he gets the wood.
If you are interested in getting rid of the walnut, I would be willing to bet you could place an ad on cragislist and get someone to take them down and remove it for free just to get their hands on the wood.

 

[winos5]

I had a live oak on the corner of my house trunk was about 7 feet from house ( no I didn't plant it, was existing when I bought home) About 35 feet high, main trunk was about 16 inches across. Roots were damaging the foundation and plumbing. Tree company wanted to charge me $4K to put in root barrier. I was able to prune most of the top of it from the roof with an electric pole saw then just cut down what was left with 18" gas chain saw using ropes/tension to keep it from falling on the house. Took about an hour to cut it down and 2-3 hours to clear all the cut wood/branches. The stump proved stubborn. Was re-sprouting shoots all over the surrounding yard. Took several months to kill it and then slowly took it down to lawn level and it is decomposing.

 

[Raskolnikov]

You could poison it like that guy did to the trees in the Alabama vs Auburn rivalry. Then when it falls on your house it might be covered by home insurance?

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

I had a live oak on the corner of my house trunk was about 7 feet from house ( no I didn't plant it, was existing when I bought home) About 35 feet high, main trunk was about 16 inches across. Roots were damaging the foundation and plumbing. Tree company wanted to charge me $4K to put in root barrier. I was able to prune most of the top of it from the roof with an electric pole saw then just cut down what was left with 18" gas chain saw using ropes/tension to keep it from falling on the house. Took about an hour to cut it down and 2-3 hours to clear all the cut wood/branches. The stump proved stubborn. Was re-sprouting shoots all over the surrounding yard. Took several months to kill it and then slowly took it down to lawn level and it is decomposing.

Good call on not going for the root barrier. A root barrier on any tree of significant size is a dumb idea, a waste of money, and risky, as it could destabilize the tree. Same goes for deep root fertilization of larger trees. A pointless, and inexact exercise that is purely an up sell by tree companies.

Cherry trees are the worst to be near foundations. If an oak or poplar are destroying plumbing or drains, then the drains are old, and need replacement. No poplar or oak will damage a modern, properly installed drain or plumbing.

 

[winos5]

Good call on not going for the root barrier. A root barrier on any tree of significant size is a dumb idea, a waste of money, and risky, as it could destabilize the tree. Same goes for deep root fertilization of larger trees. A pointless, and inexact exercise that is purely an up sell by tree companies.

Cherry trees are the worst to be near foundations. If an oak or poplar are destroying plumbing or drains, then the drains are old, and need replacement. No poplar or oak will damage a modern, properly installed drain or plumbing.

Exactly. The house was built in 1962. The below foundation plumbing has since been replaced.