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UN arms treaty could put U.S. gun owners in foreign sights
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Actually, it wasn't just NSFW, but just not safe to look at.
Mods: Do we have spoiler capabilities with our current set up?
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Yeah, I believe you just use the
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Well that's what it is, it works, I don't know what you did wrong? Type the tag above, but the cursor inbetween it, click the picture icon from the tool bar and paste the URL there. Should work fine.
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Well, MH, did what you said to do, as I did before, clicked preview post and still get the tag with the jpg image visible.
EDIT: Figured out the prob. When you hit "preview post" it doesn't hide the image, but when I hit "save changes," it did.
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Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket. Everyone who wants to keep the right to bear arms is an illiterate hick. Those of us who worry about the government infringing upon that right are just plain stupid wackos.
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They'll have to take my guns and ammo first.
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Come on man, look at it like this:
You have two guns, if the 'government' showed up at your door to take them from you, they would show up with 40 SWAT members and 20 patrol officers. All of whom have just as many if not more guns and ammo than you do. They are going to succeed, you are not.
Now, consider this on a nationwide scale. It is estimated that there are about 80 million gun owners in America with a combining total of 258 million guns (Read more: http://wiki.answers....a#ixzz21fBjAyEt).
I don't see any information about any private citizen owning a tank, or modern artillery piece, or submarine, or aircraft carrier, or fighter jets with bombs, missiles, or guns. Even if several thousand citizens banded together, their personal firearms (which I know includes machine guns and large caliber rifles) won't stand a chance against dozens of tanks, arty, attack and bomber planes...the list goes on.
Conclusion; the notion that private citizens with personal firearms can revolt and concur the United States military is fucking ludicrous. So there is no need whatsoever to claim that the 2nd Amendment, IN MODERN TIMES, has anything to do with the ability of the populace to overthrow a tyrannical government when necessary.
Right now, people like having guns for a multitude of reasons like hunting, sport shooting, and self defense. The recent SCOTUS interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is just a convenient way of keeping it legal.
(again, I am a licensed gun owner and Army veteran who knows how to use a multitude of firearms, and I would love to keep my right to use them...but I still think the 2A was meant for something else)
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Assuming that any revolt against the government wouldn't include some part of the military? That's how it works in most countries, anyway. Military coups are all the rage. Also assuming that US soldiers would fire on their friends and family... and fellow Americans? I'm betting most military personnel would go AWOL in case of a revolt, before they killed fellow Americans. I know I would. I'd be driving my tank right across the battle lines to lineup with "the people" before the government. Whatever "oath" I took be damned. You really think the US government would deploy tanks, fighter planes, helicopters, and bombers against their own people? Lots of assumptions happening there. I don't see our military slaughtering our own people like other countries have done in the past. I just don't. Our chances are also a hell of a lot better with guns, than without.
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WACO, TX ring a bell???
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A cult is similar to a revolt, how? lol
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I am wacky. I think the people should have the same weapons as the government. It would keep em honest.
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Armed mob doesn't follow rules and tells government to get bent.
Try this one: the CIVIL WAR. Several states band together to tell the federal government to get bent.
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Civil War is a much more apt example. If there is a revolution, you can bet your ass it isn't going to be a few thousand people. It will be entire states.
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Right, as it was in the 1860s. A plain old uprising like Arab Spring is just never going to happen nor succeed here. There are WAY too many people in the US that want nothing to do with war, let alone a war in their own front yard.
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That was the general idea. However, along the way the government found ways to make such items illegal or out of the price range of the population.