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Don't want to read 20 pages, is Brett saying Santo didn't deserve to make it? :lmao:
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Pretty much.
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sounds like it, yes
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Totally agree. Today proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt
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Brett's a homer who often has what you'd call "radical" ideas... but not the good radical.
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Not in the way you think, though.
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There is a recap thread a page or two back
Certainly I'm not alone in thinking he should be out. He has been 10-20 times even after multiple times to make it easier and easier for Ron to get in.
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Care to step up with something that shows any if which you speak or stay with irony of irony and be the homer voting Ron in without being critical?
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Wife is home. Hope some steps up with honesty for me to read tommirrow
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Enough said (.277 then is different than .277 now IMO).
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Only reason I'm surprised at all that Brett's being a moron again is this:
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To be fair, Santo was pretty bad as a White Sox. That's when his career pretty much ground to a halt.
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IK, still surprised that his inner homer is telling him "He doesn't deserve it" vs. "He should be inducted as a White Sox because the Cubs suck" lol.
Probably just butthurt about Minoso.
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He made some good points earlier in the thread, but people smarter than I have argued convincingly that Santo's body of work is HOF worthy. I've looked at the statistics and thought the same. I guess there's a chance that Santo didn't deserve it, but I think that's a very slim chance if at all.
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Don't forget, he also quit on them after one year.
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He's the anti-Jesus
He absolutely did not.
He never made any valid point as to why Santo didn't belong in the HOF.
His argument of "Santo didn't hit well on the road" is ridiculous. I've already showed players in the HOF that had worse batting average splits away from home. Again, even with Santo batting poorly on the road he was still the best offensive third baseman of his era by a pretty easy margin.
While he wasn't the defender Brooks Robinson was Santo still won 5 straight GG's and surpassed Robinson as an offensive player by a wide margin. Robinson is thought of as a no brainer for a HOF'er. Do the math.
brett's entire argument has been ridiculously bad. It basically boiled down to Santo had a poor home/away split.
That's not a good point.
Even comparing Santo to 3rd baseman who have gone into the HOF after him from more offensively friendly era's and 3rd baseman in the HOF in general Santo is in the middle of the pack. he's not a fringe candidate for the position by the definition of guys that are already in the HOF.
By any standard(relative to his peers, 3rd baseman in the HOF, etc) Santo is a HOF'er.
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No.
I believe the voters have been wrong.
For a long time.
LOL at this. Guys like Bills James said Santo belonged. Brooks Robinson has repeatedly voted for Santo..""But I know that he's just as good as anyone who's ever played over there."
It's far from just "Cubs fans" supporting his enshrinement.
Get over it.
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I guess there are no brownie points for trying to be diplomatic 
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I guess there are no brownie points for trying to be diplomatic
Diplomatic =/= bold face lying.
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Oh, but sometimes it is.
