USA Today: Bears had one of the ten worst offseasons

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Reading in depth team analysis from a national outlet is pointless....they are looking at 1000 ft view of things.
 

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Bears supposedly had a great offseason last year...great new coaching staff, dynamic young WR, hotshot GM 'winning' the draft...improved from 5-11 to 6-10.

It was pretty obvious that last year's improvement weren't about record, but culture shift. Shifting a culture is a huge undertaking and they had a great amount of progress in just one offseason. There are multiple steps to a rebuild. That was step 1. On-field production is now step 2 and beyond.
 

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Three years ago, Forte was in the top 10 in both rushing and TDs. #2 in rushing and # 8 in TDs. This information is readily available with the invention of the internet.

So during the trestman era. Well it does make eense. So mick I was wrong, Forte has been top ten in rushing and td'so once in his career. That's good I guess. When I'm able to look up the stats on the computer instead of the phone (having to suffer through nfl.com bad mobile site ) I'll look up rory'so claim myself
 

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Yeah, the Bears really improved this offseason by getting rid of Gase. His play calling is what held the Bears back. More Go routes to Mariani should have been in the playbook.

You do know that there is literally nothing that the Bears could have done to stop Gase from leaving right? So saying that they got rid of him is not valid. They had to find a replacement and chose consistency over giving their aging QB yet another system to learn and implement.
 

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Our offense's have always been terrible and I honestly can't remember a year where Forte was top ten in rushing or td's. Please feel free to show me something.

Your terrible example of using Lynch and Langford shows your bias my man. How many more rushing attempts did Lynch have over Forte? How many td's? If you are going to use ypc against Langford then I'm going to need you to travel back to 2009 and start complaining about Forte as well. You remember his ypc, don't you?

Yes, 2009 was his worst year in ypc. His worst year was better than Langford has shown so far.

Again, nobody is saying the new backs are going to be bad, just that until the new offensive players prove that they can do the job of the ones they've lost, analysts are going to view the offense as having taken a step back. It's not even just the backfield. White has yet to replace Marshall's production and Whitehair has yet to show he's as good guard as Slauson. Try and get past your bitter downplaying of a great Bear who isn't even on the team anymore and see this basic common sense.
 

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Loved Matt... Have high hopes for Howard...
Hope he picks up on protection fast and stays healthy....
Going to need him.
 

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Yes, 2009 was his worst year in ypc. His worst year was better than Langford has shown so far.

Again, nobody is saying the new backs are going to be bad, just that until the new offensive players prove that they can do the job of the ones they've lost, analysts are going to view the offense as having taken a step back. It's not even just the backfield. White has yet to replace Marshall's production and Whitehair has yet to show he's as good guard as Slauson. Try and get past your bitter downplaying of a great Bear who isn't even on the team anymore and see this basic common sense.

No one is downplaying anyone. You are just being bias while using terrible examples that are easy to counter. White might not be as good as Marshall? You don't say? But how do you know without seeing. It's human nature to be wary but foolish not to try to figure out what might happen
 

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No, Forte was #7 in rushing in 2008 and #8 in TDs in 2008. So in total its actually 4 times. You've been wrong about this every step of the way. Please stop.

I'm curious to if you are adding his receiving td's?
 

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I'm curious as to what will happen first...1) you will stop talking about this, or 2) you will state factually correct information.

So are you going to answer my question or keep acting like an ass hole?
 

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No one is downplaying anyone. You are just being bias while using terrible examples that are easy to counter. White might not be as good as Marshall? You don't say? But how do you know without seeing. It's human nature to be wary but foolish not to try to figure out what might happen

You don't know without seeing, that's the point. When you replace some premier players with unproven players, analysts are going to view it as a step back until they show otherwise. This is incredibly simple and you're wriggling incredibly hard to protest it, for some reason.
 

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I'm curious to if you are adding his receiving td's?

You keep saying that, as if it matters. 6 points is 6 points. First downs are first downs whether they're acquired by smashing through bodies in the middle of the line or slipping defenders with a cut and getting into the secondary. The point is the replacement of top players with players who are still unproven.


OK...look at your statement. Look at my responses. When the NFL produces a list of "top 10 - touchdowns", do they exclude receiving TDs?

PIB has this weird notion that Forte's work only mattered when it came from a handoff.
 

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He was a very good runner as well. Great one cut and one of the best outside runners in the league.

Forte career ypc 4.23

Marshawn Lynch career ypc 4.25

Jeremy Langford 3.60

Lynch, who was considered a "beast" of a runner gained one extra yard every 50 carries than Forte.

So no, it won't be "just his receiving" that will be missed.

Matt Forte 1st year ypc - 3.90
 

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How many times can we possibly rehash that Forte was a great player for us, will be missed and were moving forward?
 

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It's amazing how impatient some of you posters are and for some reason seemed to be confused that John Fox and Ryan Pace haven't turned the Bears around in 1 year.

This team was bad. Two double digit win seasons since the Super Bowl run in '06, basically one playoff trip in the last decade, years of terrible drafting, bad coaching decisions all while being in one of the toughest divisions in the NFL. If this team wins another 5 or 6 games this year then I can see the reasons to doubt this regime but I think they deserve 2-3 years before people are basically ready to throw them out of town because they didn't do well enough in year one which was basically a purge.
 

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How many times can we possibly rehash that Forte was a great player for us, will be missed and were moving forward?

That isn't even what the article is about. It's about the offseason overall. The most common thing I read about is how the defense appears to have improved with the offense taking a step back. There seems to be a lot of anger about the assumption that the offense will regress based on the different personnel. However, most analysts seem to be saying that the defense has improved. PIB's gripe seems to be that we can't say anything until we've seen it, but I don't see anyone protesting the assumption that the defense has gotten better, despite the fact that we haven't seen it yet.

How about letting people discuss the team in both positive and skeptical areas without getting our underwear in a bunch?
 

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Cmon now Mick. You, I and the majority of posters on here know what you created this thread for. You're not fooling many here.
 

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There has to be a concern about the offense. The offense was in transition last year and we lost our best offensive weapon.......it is a perfectly reasonable concern.
 

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The Bears are the best team in the NFL and the media just hates us. They always pick on the Bears for no reason
 

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