Vrabel Patriots

[msadows]

He’s responsible for all phases of the game. And his offenses were piss poor. He played in a weak division at the time. Those offenses would not cut it in the NFC North. He would not a good pairing for Williams.

Ohh I agree, I'm very happy he went to the patriots as it takes away one more spot for the good offensive minds to go.

He's a solid safe pick but they drafted caleb to be more than solid and safe.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

They should force the Lions to fire Ben before the playoffs start obviously.

Makes the most sense. Tell them they will send some frozen Lou’s pizzas in exchange for the firing.

 

[Rise]

He’s responsible for all phases of the game. And his offenses were piss poor. He played in a weak division at the time. Those offenses would not cut it in the NFC North. He would not a good pairing for Williams.

McDaniels will coach that offense. Now if they don’t hire him I agree with everything you’re saying.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

Ohh I agree, I'm very happy he went to the patriots as it takes away one more spot for the good offensive minds to go.

He's a solid safe pick but they drafted caleb to be more than solid and safe.

They sure did. And no one is saying Johnson, Monken or Brady are guaranteed to succeed. They just give Williams the best chance to succeed.

 

[remydat]

The raiders have the 6th pick. Neither TEN or CLE are trading out of 1/2, you can pretty much bet that Cam Ward is a brown and Shadeur is a Titan.

So do you think they are taking Dart at #6? Or do you want the guy who cant throw in jalen milroe? Maybe ben johnson would like to coach Aidan O connell? How about a free agent 5th year justin fields? Could I interest you in a washed up aaron rodgers? Sam Darnold would be the only viable option but thats a giant risk in itself and will cost 40-50m.

Yea, options are pretty trash at QB. Outside of brady unretiring I see no reason why BJ would want to hitch his wagon and potentially risk his only chance at a HC gig to the raiders.

Jax is a very likely scenario, as trevor has a load of talent. But he's been paid like a top 5 QB and has severely underperformed, that roster also is worse than the bears and has less money.

I am not convinced Ward and Shedur go 1 and 2. Either of those teams can be in on a vet QB option so will know more once we see where the vet QBs land.

Should also add, Sanders seems adamant there are teams he wont let his son play for. So can see him pulling an Archie Manning and saying his kid is not playing for the Titans, Browns or Giants which leaves Raiders and Tom Brady his first chosen landing spot.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

McDaniels will coach that offense. Now if they don’t hire him I agree with everything you’re saying.

I’d 100% still take Johnson, Monken or Brady over McDaniels.

 

[Rise]

I’d 100% still take Johnson, Monken or Brady over McDaniels.

Are you thinking of HC McDaniels or OC? Two entirely different things. OC McDaniels is proven, even without Brady, and he won’t be getting a HC job anytime soon. Vrabel/McDaniels covers every base.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

Are you thinking of HC McDaniels or OC? Two entirely different things. OC McDaniels is proven, even without Brady, and he won’t be getting a HC job anytime soon. Vrabel/McDaniels covers every base.

I’m thinking of both. Johnson, Monken and Brady are proven as well.

 

[Nads786]

If you want BJ this is great. Now we are competing against teams without legit QB options and horrible ownership outside of the Saints.

It’s the tallest midget contest for BJ

 

[Nads786]

Raiders are not good owners and have nothing. This draft isn’t great for QBs.

Jags I can see bc if Lawerence and easy division, but again horrible owner.

 

[remydat]

Raiders are not good owners and have nothing. This draft isn’t great for QBs.

Jags I can see bc if Lawerence and easy division, but again horrible owner.

Raiders have Brady and just because you dont like these QBs in the draft doesnt mean Johnson feels the same. Plus they have a GM opening as well so Johnson can pick his GM potentially.

Bears have terrible owners too.

 

[Nads786]

Raiders have Brady and just because you dont like these QBs in the draft doesnt mean Johnson feels the same. Plus they have a GM opening as well so Johnson can pick his GM potentially.

Bears have terrible owners too.

Yep bears owners are horrible, a new GM is appealing as well and Brady is an X factor.

I wouldn’t be surprised but just think BJ would tilt toward us.

 

[msadows]

I am not convinced Ward and Shedur go 1 and 2. Either of those teams can be in on a vet QB option so will know more once we see where the vet QBs land.

Should also add, Sanders seems adamant there are teams he wont let his son play for. So can see him pulling an Archie Manning and saying his kid is not playing for the Titans, Browns or Giants which leaves Raiders and Tom Brady his first chosen landing spot.

Shadeur literally wants to go to the giants.

I will be very shocked if either of those QB needy teams dont take Cam Ward and Shadeur.

 

[msadows]

Yep bears owners are horrible, a new GM is appealing as well and Brady is an X factor.

I wouldn’t be surprised but just think BJ would tilt toward us.

Kraft is horrible too.

Newsflash, most of the NFL owners are dogshit

 

[msadows]

Raiders have Brady and just because you dont like these QBs in the draft doesnt mean Johnson feels the same. Plus they have a GM opening as well so Johnson can pick his GM potentially.

Bears have terrible owners too.

True, ben johnson is going to pass on caleb williams to coach up shadeur sanders

JFC

 

[Enasic]

Wonder who his OC is

Heard it’s gonna be mcdaniels. Not sure if it’s official but it makes sense

 

[remydat]

True, ben johnson is going to pass on caleb williams to coach up shadeur sanders

JFC

No he could pass on Bears for Brady, picking his own GM, and a QB that is more of a blank slate than Calen. Pretending you know his thought process for sure is silly.

 

[Montucky]

True, ben johnson is going to pass on caleb williams to coach up shadeur sanders

JFC

It literally looks like he might do exactly this though.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Johnson literally cannot be hired yet. What do you want?

I'm aware.

I'm talking about their process. It seems to me that despite their desire for some nebulous "leader of men," they are letting the candidates decide what kind of coach they want rather than deciding what they want in a coach and zeroing in on a few candidates.

 

[msadows]

It literally looks like he might do exactly this though.

Based on what?

They are also not getting shadeur, remy is talking out his ass. Shadeur wants to play for the giants, but unless he pulls an ELI that trade is not happening. The Titans and Browns are not passing up on the only 2 real QB prospects to start kirk cousins or justin fields at QB.

Every other QB in this draft is cheeks.

I know you're stupid but you really cant think ben johnson would prefer to go into a terrible offensive situation and risk potentially his only HC chance on aidan o connel? Maybe brady unretires? Jax and Bears have much more talent on offense and far superior QB talents.

Shadeur is not a good talent, he'd be a 2nd round pick in last years draft. Caleb/Trevor were "generational" hyped.