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Yeah, I got faith that at least 1 of them will end up here...but let's face it. Us fans can get a little greedy at times (like me right now) and want 2 of them for sure. Then maybe 2 B-List FA's. :woot::bulls::D
 

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If we can land Bosh, which is very possible. I will be very very excited.
 

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If we can land Bosh, which is very possible. I will be very very excited.

if we would add bosh along with a good outside shooter i will be very damm happy.
 

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Well first off, you can admit that you were wrong about what i stated, which was in fact starting 5.

And here's my argument, something you have yet to provide in your uninformed basketball "conversations".
Deng>Artest. Deng is younger, provides more offensively, better rebounder and is still a good defender. He's also more of a pro. Artest provides spurts off offense and is just a lockdown defender.
Noah>Bynum. Noah is a better defender, passer and runs the court much better. Bynum gets hurt more often and Noah is obviously the leader/heart and soul of this team. His play in the playoffs was superb most of the time. Bynum has more offensive potential though.
Gasol>Boozer. Really no argument here. Gasol went to work on Boozer when they met in the Western Semis and has been one of the best players in these playoffs, period.
Kobe>JJ. No argument on this one either. Kobe plays both ends of the floor better than JJ and is a leader. The most clutch player in the league.
Rose>Odom. Doesnt make sense to compare these two considering 1 is a starting PG all-star and the other is a PF 6th man. Thats why we compare starting 5s(original argument). No one can argue who is better whether its Rose-Fisher or Rose-Odom. One of these three is a top player at his position and makes a difference night in and night out.

I see one team with 3 current all-stars(Rose,JJ,Boozer), 1 guy who was in AS discussion until injury and was also considered as most improved and was 2nd in the league in rebounding until injury(Noah). Your 5th and worst player of the 5 is Deng, who is an 18-8 guy who can get to the line and play good defense. Ive never seen a team with a guy that good being their 4th best scoring option and overall 5th best player. I see another team with two All-stars but both are arguably the absolute best at their positions. Then i see a often injured and inconsistent C(Bynum) to go along with one defensive ACE(artest) and one of the leagues most inconsistent athletes(Odom). The Bulls are young and only going to improve. Rose has superstar potential. Kobe is only going to go downhill. Fisher, Odom, Artest are all on the wrong side of their careers.

The answer is clear. Bulls w/ JJ and Boozer>Lakers. If Kobe and Gasol are off, the Lakers dont stand a chance. If Rose and Boozer are off you still have JJ and Deng.

I actually responded based on the fact you said that it was the best core in the NBA. Why would I compare starting 5's, when the Bulls would rape the Lakers lol? There's no doubt about that, but I'll take the Lakers core over the possible Bulls core any day.

I would agree with you on the fact that Deng is probably better than Artest. Artest has lost most of his little offensive skills he had and his shot has been really bad this year. I'd obviosuly take Artest over Deng for defensive purposes, but that alone doesn't put Artest over the top.

Gasol over Boozer. Gasol is one of the most fundamentally sound post players in the NBA, and Boozer is up there too, but Gasol better than Boozer, plain and simple. Gasol also has a better jumper than Boozer and can run the floor better than Boozer lol.

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Bynum and Noah is a toss up for me. Bynum is very injury prone but he still plays well in the games he plays, some coming back from injury and pain. I mean the man is a 15/8 guy who's only 23 who isn't near his offensive potential yet. Noah is better defensively, in my opinion, Bynum really is only a good shot blocker, and a little above average at that. Noah can bring the full package on D, block a similar number of shots as Bynum and rebound a little better, but I think Bynum's offense closes the gap and is pretty much a toss up. Can't go wrong with either.

Kobe/JJ. Yeah no need to explain lol

Obviosuly Rose over Odom, once Rose develops an even more consistent jumper and a 3 point shot he'll be deadly. He's gonna be really exciting to watch. I love what Odom can do but he's so inconsistent, the Lakers are lucky they don't have to rely on him to be a second option on that team or they'd be no where near what they are now.
 

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Well i said starting 5s and you wanted to switch it to cores. Again, i already said Gasol is hands down better. But no way Bynum is better than Noah. Noah provides too much on and off the court for the Bulls. Also, how can you compare cores when we wouldnt even know who would be on that Bulls bench?

Youre wrong, get over it. Even with a great game by Kobe and a 12/12 game by Gasol, they still lost tonight. They didnt have another go to guy. Add one more all-star and they would have won that game.

Bulls would have the best starting 5 in the league. No question
 

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Well i said starting 5s and you wanted to switch it to cores. Again, i already said Gasol is hands down better. But no way Bynum is better than Noah. Noah provides too much on and off the court for the Bulls. Also, how can you compare cores when we wouldnt even know who would be on that Bulls bench?

Youre wrong, get over it. Even with a great game by Kobe and a 12/12 game by Gasol, they still lost tonight. They didnt have another go to guy. Add one more all-star and they would have won that game.

Bulls would have the best starting 5 in the league. No question

Funny because if you look at the thread I responded after you said best core.

Bynum =/= Noah

A core of players is a set of players, not your whole bench.

Lakers won the championship and Kobe went, what, 6-24 lol.
 

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Once again, for the mentally challenged, i said STARTING FIVE!!!!!! MEANING THE FIVE PLAYERS WHO START THE GAME. This includes PG, SG, SF, PF and C. Not The best 4 starters and their best bench player. Stop twisting it to make it work towards your argument, which it didnt.

Yeah Lakers just barely won at home in game 7 against an aging Celtics team who were without Perkins for basically 2 games. Notice the Orebs the Lakers were getting throughout the game and tell me Perk wouldnt have made the difference. Rose-Johnson-Deng-Boozer-Noah would win against either of those teams.

And no Bynum is not as good as Noah. Not in his gimpy 10 or so minutes.

Also where have you been? Would you have shown back up if the Celtics won? I doubt it.
 

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Rose-Johnson-Deng-Boozer-Noah

would have won the championship this year

thats what....4 all stars?
 

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3 All-Stars, 1 borderline All-Star and 1 18-8 player with good defense. Noah could have very well been an AS if he didnt get hurt last season.
 

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Well first off, you can admit that you were wrong about what i stated, which was in fact starting 5.

And here's my argument, something you have yet to provide in your uninformed basketball "conversations".
Deng>Artest. Deng is younger, provides more offensively, better rebounder and is still a good defender. He's also more of a pro. Artest provides spurts off offense and is just a lockdown defender.Ya Artest is old and has lost the offensive ability he used to have..he is mostly used now for defense..i mean ya he scored 20 pts in game 7 but it wasnt on good shooting...very poor shooter..Deng is nearing his prime and can still give you 18 PPG and 7 RPG and be a good defender despite his recent injuries edge to Deng
Noah>Bynum. Noah is a better defender, passer and runs the court much better. Bynum gets hurt more often and Noah is obviously the leader/heart and soul of this team. His play in the playoffs was superb most of the time. Bynum has more offensive potential though. I love it how people say Bynum is going to be a dominant presence yet he has shown nothing yet..he is way too injury prone and at times he doesnt show up..Noah is definitely more of a leader a better shot blocker,rebounder, offensively noah needs work but at this point his offensive game may STILL be better than Bynum's
Gasol>Boozer. Really no argument here. Gasol went to work on Boozer when they met in the Western Semis and has been one of the best players in these playoffs, period. Gasol is probably one of the if not the best big men in the league probably next to D howard and Timmy, Boozer is a very very very good big man but he isnt on Gasol's level especially since Gasol has incredible footwork and a finesse game as well as his ability to dominate with his height...much better shot blocker than boozer
Kobe>JJ. No argument on this one either. Kobe plays both ends of the floor better than JJ and is a leader. The most clutch player in the league. well duh haha JJ is a very good SG tho..probably a better shooter than kobe..maybe thats it..Kobe is a great defensive as well as offensive player..JJ is fair at defense
Rose>Odom. Doesnt make sense to compare these two considering 1 is a starting PG all-star and the other is a PF 6th man. Thats why we compare starting 5s(original argument). No one can argue who is better whether its Rose-Fisher or Rose-Odom. One of these three is a top player at his position and makes a difference night in and night out.lol Rose vs. Fisher is a joke....Rose would kill the lakers...not that fish isnt a decent player but rose is quite a bit better..having Rose is huge because pg play is the lakers weakness and like rondo rose can break down the lakers d getting to the cup but rose is a better shooter than rondo imo so he can also be somewhat of an outside threat

I see one team with 3 current all-stars(Rose,JJ,Boozer), 1 guy who was in AS discussion until injury and was also considered as most improved and was 2nd in the league in rebounding until injury(Noah). Your 5th and worst player of the 5 is Deng, who is an 18-8 guy who can get to the line and play good defense. Ive never seen a team with a guy that good being their 4th best scoring option and overall 5th best player. I see another team with two All-stars but both are arguably the absolute best at their positions. Then i see a often injured and inconsistent C(Bynum) to go along with one defensive ACE(artest) and one of the leagues most inconsistent athletes(Odom). The Bulls are young and only going to improve. Rose has superstar potential. Kobe is only going to go downhill. Fisher, Odom, Artest are all on the wrong side of their careers. in other words that starting five has little to no weakness all around and is better than the lakers now bench thats debatable depending on what free agents and draft picks would be received in this scenario

The answer is clear. Bulls w/ JJ and Boozer>Lakers. If Kobe and Gasol are off, the Lakers dont stand a chance. If Rose and Boozer are off you still have JJ and Deng.

as i said, any player on the starting 5 could kill you....so its hard to have the team off.....
 

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3 All-Stars, 1 borderline All-Star and 1 18-8 player with good defense. Noah could have very well been an AS if he didnt get hurt last season.
oh i thought noah was like an all star reserve:dunno:
 

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Once again, for the mentally challenged, i said STARTING FIVE!!!!!! MEANING THE FIVE PLAYERS WHO START THE GAME. This includes PG, SG, SF, PF and C. Not The best 4 starters and their best bench player. Stop twisting it to make it work towards your argument, which it didnt.

Yeah Lakers just barely won at home in game 7 against an aging Celtics team who were without Perkins for basically 2 games. Notice the Orebs the Lakers were getting throughout the game and tell me Perk wouldnt have made the difference. Rose-Johnson-Deng-Boozer-Noah would win against either of those teams.

And no Bynum is not as good as Noah. Not in his gimpy 10 or so minutes.

Also where have you been? Would you have shown back up if the Celtics won? I doubt it.
How am I being the mentally challenged one, look at posts 34, 35, and 36 in this thread. You said
I'd still argue that core of player over anyone in the league.
Then I posted. If I wanted to tell you that Fish would dominate Derrick Rose and look like a complete dumbass then I would have responded after that post. You're just saying what you want to hear, because you clearly said best core and I responded to that. and lol at me only coming back since they won the finals.

Just so you know Bynum played more games than Noah this year too.
 

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Again and for the last time, my original statement had no mention of core. I know its hard for a Miami Heat fan to comprehend anything relating to basketball, but just try to take your time and read over the thread nice and slowly. One day you might understand and stop twisting the subject.

I didnt say anything about how many games Noah or Bynum played(Bynum 1 more game than Noah). I said Bynum and his 10 gimpy minutes(an exaggeration of his lack of minutes), meaning the series they just played which ultimately would be the series they would meet that Bulls team in(the Finals). Back on topic, Noah is better than Bynum and more valuable than Bynum.

Now you shall go on ignore because you obviously cant stay on topic(starting 5) and have no clue about what youre talking about(anything sports related). Youre the forum clown. Thank you for not posting as often as the rest of the regulars here. It would be a better forum if you didnt post at all.
 

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