Way too early Mock Draft: Can’t believe I’m doing this sh!t in November edition

[dentfan]

Todd McShay releases Mock Draft 1.0 ahead of 2023 NFL Draft

ESPN analyst Todd McShay released his mock draft 1.0 after the end of the 2022 regular season and the big rush of NFL draft declarations.

www.on3.com

So, Todd McShay just released his first mock and had Bijan going number 5 to the Eagles. His starnis going to skyrocket. Just saying.

IF we can plug holes in FA and trade back, we should take him.

 

[greg23]

Todd McShay releases Mock Draft 1.0 ahead of 2023 NFL Draft

ESPN analyst Todd McShay released his mock draft 1.0 after the end of the 2022 regular season and the big rush of NFL draft declarations.

www.on3.com

So, Todd McShay just released his first mock and had Bijan going number 5 to the Eagles. His starnis going to skyrocket. Just saying.

IF we can plug holes in FA and trade back, we should take him.

The eagles can absolutely afford to take him thay high ; the bears have no business taking him anywhere in round 1

 

[dentfan]

The eagles can absolutely afford to take him thay high ; the bears have no business taking him anywhere in round 1

The Bears have the potential to fill their holes with FA. If, and it is an IF, they are able to, we should take the best player who would give us the most chance to win. We need to give Fields weapons.

I see Carter and Robinson as being question mark free.

Now, on a side note, there are some DBs in the first round that are really nice. It is shaping up to be a really good DB draft. I just don’t see Poles taking one, even though they are the safest pick.

 

[greg23]

The Bears have the potential to fill their holes with FA. If, and it is an IF, they are able to, we should take the best player who would give us the most chance to win. We need to give Fields weapons.

I see Carter and Robinson as being question mark free.

Now, on a side note, there are some DBs in the first round that are really nice. It is shaping up to be a really good DB draft. I just don’t see Poles taking one, even though they are the safest pick.

The Bears are already #1 in rushing this season...how exactly is drafting a rb #2/3 over all helping them win?

The eagles has talent, are already good and have tons of picks....they can absolutely afford to take a guy early in the draft at an easily replaceable position if they think he puts them over the top......my guess is they end up moving down; getting even more future picks and possibly taking him lower in the draft.....its what a good org would do

 

[dentfan]

The Bears are already #1 in rushing this season...how exactly is drafting a rb #2/3 over all helping them win?

The Bears are number 2 because of Justin Mothefucking Fields!

Getting a RB as dynamic and with the dimensionality of Bijan changed everything. Last week, CMC had a TD catch after lining up in the Y boundary. Bijan can and will do this. Looking at how SF uses CMC to brutalize a D, and with Fields, makes this a great pick. The issue is that a lot of people just see a RB. He is possibly the best and most complete receiver in the first round! The Bijan hype train hasn’t even started yet.

The eagles has talent, are already good and have tons of picks....they can absolutely afford to take a guy early in the draft at an easily replaceable position if they think he puts them over the top......my guess is they end up moving down; getting even more future picks and possibly taking him lower in the draft.....its what a good org would do

Bijan is not going to go past LV. He will gov very high. The only other no question marks player, not a DB, in the first round is Carter.

Dudes would rather have an undersized 3-4 outside LB whose production dropped last season. Yeah, okay. No questions there. The rest of the draft gets worse. There are no, none, zip OL worth a first round pick. There are a lot, and I mean a lot, of very athletic DL. There’s only one Carter. There’s only one Bijan. There are some sick CBs.

 

[greg23]

The Bears are number 2 because of Justin Mothefucking Fields!

Getting a RB as dynamic and with the dimensionality of Bijan changed everything. Last week, CMC had a TD catch after lining up in the Y boundary. Bijan can and will do this. Looking at how SF uses CMC to brutalize a D, and with Fields, makes this a great pick. The issue is that a lot of people just see a RB. He is possibly the best and most complete receiver in the first round! The Bijan hype train hasn’t even started yet.

Bijan is not going to go past LV. He will gov very high. The only other no question marks player, not a DB, in the first round is Carter.

Dudes would rather have an undersized 3-4 outside LB whose production dropped last season. Yeah, okay. No questions there. The rest of the draft gets worse. There are no, none, zip OL worth a first round pick. There are a lot, and I mean a lot, of very athletic DL. There’s only one Carter. There’s only one Bijan. There are some sick CBs.

Fields has no time to throw
Fields has nobody to throw to
The dline can't rush the passer
The dline can't stop the run
The db aren't that great beyond JJ

LETS DRAFT A RB TOP 5

The 5th round rb drafted by a previous gm fits the system and avg 6 ypc...Poles will draft a similar zone style rb late and /or sign a fa he won't be drafting a RB in the top 5

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

The Bears are number 2 because of Justin Mothefucking Fields!

Getting a RB as dynamic and with the dimensionality of Bijan changed everything. Last week, CMC had a TD catch after lining up in the Y boundary. Bijan can and will do this. Looking at how SF uses CMC to brutalize a D, and with Fields, makes this a great pick. The issue is that a lot of people just see a RB. He is possibly the best and most complete receiver in the first round! The Bijan hype train hasn’t even started yet.

Bijan is not going to go past LV. He will gov very high. The only other no question marks player, not a DB, in the first round is Carter.

Dudes would rather have an undersized 3-4 outside LB whose production dropped last season. Yeah, okay. No questions there. The rest of the draft gets worse. There are no, none, zip OL worth a first round pick. There are a lot, and I mean a lot, of very athletic DL. There’s only one Carter. There’s only one Bijan. There are some sick CBs.

Just look at the shelf life of your typical NFL running back. Even the good ones get hurt frequently. It’s much much safer to have a rotating fleet of two to three backs at all times.

The only way this makes sense is if he’s Marshall Faulk.

And you’re full of shit when you say there’s no first round OL.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Todd McShay releases Mock Draft 1.0 ahead of 2023 NFL Draft

ESPN analyst Todd McShay released his mock draft 1.0 after the end of the 2022 regular season and the big rush of NFL draft declarations.

www.on3.com

So, Todd McShay just released his first mock and had Bijan going number 5 to the Eagles. His starnis going to skyrocket. Just saying.

IF we can plug holes in FA and trade back, we should take him.

If McShay has Bijan at #5, then it’s safe to say that he’ll be available around 15.

 

[Enasic]

If McShay has Bijan at #5, then it’s safe to say that he’ll be available around 15.

3rd rounder now

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Todd McShay releases Mock Draft 1.0 ahead of 2023 NFL Draft

ESPN analyst Todd McShay released his mock draft 1.0 after the end of the 2022 regular season and the big rush of NFL draft declarations.

www.on3.com

So, Todd McShay just released his first mock and had Bijan going number 5 to the Eagles. His starnis going to skyrocket. Just saying.

IF we can plug holes in FA and trade back, we should take him.

There is a reason why these mock draft clowns don’t get nfl gm jobs and when one did it was an epic failure

 

[dentfan]

Just look at the shelf life of your typical NFL running back. Even the good ones get hurt frequently. It’s much much safer to have a rotating fleet of two to three backs at all times.

The only way this makes sense is if he’s Marshall Faulk.

And you’re full of shit when you say there’s no first round OL.

There’s NO first round talent at OL. None. Zip. Zilch. Who do you think is worth a first round pick on OL in this draft? Scrappy Doo? Please. A first round pick on an undersized dude who MIGHT be LT? Who else?

Please. We can disagree on Bijan. Fine. But don’t come with shit like there’s a bonafide first round talent at OL in this draft. It’s sooooo bad. Are you seriously going to tell me Paris is worth our first round pick? Second round OL, sure. The kid out of Maryland, Georgia, or Tennessee, fine. First, get the **** out of here. Wrong draft.

Fucking I believe I can fly out of Northwestern with our top pick. At least with Bijan the argument is all value and math and metrics and shit. Him? He doesn’t just have a question, he is a whole living fucking question.

 

[Mdbearz]

Even you said it, November is too soon.
1. Draft for both us and other teams is far from set in stone.
2. No idea what holes will still exist after FA, and I can not remember us ever having this much cap space
3. A fu@#ing RB!!!! I am just kidding , but only a little.

 

[greg23]

I believe the last 2 cant miss texas RB hit it out of the park in the nfl.....Cedric Benson and Ricky Williams

 

[dentfan]

I believe the last 2 cant miss texas RB hit it out of the park in the nfl.....Cedric Benson and Ricky Williams

Whelp, look what Justin Fields has done for Ohio State QBs. Let’s see if we can rehabilitate another college.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I believe the last 2 cant miss texas RB hit it out of the park in the nfl.....Cedric Benson and Ricky Williams

Ricky Williams was great when playing

 

[greg23]

Whelp, look what Justin Fields has done for Ohio State QBs. Let’s see if we can rehabilitate another college.

Pass on any rb top 5

 

[greg23]

Ricky Williams was great when playing

He wasn't #1 overall + 6/7picks worth it

 

[dentfan]

He wasn't #1 overall + 6/7picks worth it

If I remember, he cost the Saints around two full draft classes! Crazy then. Crazy now.

Pass on any rb top 5

This is where I fundamentally disagree. Wins are wins. Players who help us win are what we should get. CMC is in year 7 of his career and made SF legit. They just clinched last night. That dyanimism in the same backfield with Fields is worth it.

Think of it as taking the most complete offensive player, receiver and runner. Once the offseason hype train gets going, and Bijan runs the drills with receivers, people will go “things that make you go hmmm…..”. All over him.

As far as Will Anderson, I don’t know if he will keep the top spot over Jared Verse. I just don’t. Once the attribute Olympics and off season gets underway, I just don’t see a top 5 pick on him when this is an incredibly deep class at DT and DE. Even if Anderson keep a his top spot, the other DL in this draft will call into question whether or not he’s worth the top pick, as supply does affect demand. The exception is Carter. I’ll say it and keep saying it, there are a shot ton of good OL in this draft, but not legit first round talent. **** MiniMe Out of Northwestern. Let somebody else draft his concrete-footed ass.

As far as the value, I wouldn’t mind a conversation with somebody on this. I’d make it focused on an examination on variables and value. For example, value isn’t an infinite; it has a finite declamation, a finite structure with a limited value. Any mathhead who’d like to help me construct an equation and model would be great. I’m thinking the equation would be something like (DP*PV)/QA
Let DP = draft position
Let PV = positional value
Let QA = quantity available

 

[greg23]

If I remember, he cost the Saints around two full draft classes! Crazy then. Crazy now.

This is where I fundamentally disagree. Wins are wins. Players who help us win are what we should get. CMC is in year 7 of his career and made SF legit. They just clinched last night. That dyanimism in the same backfield with Fields is worth it.

Think of it as taking the most complete offensive player, receiver and runner. Once the offseason hype train gets going, and Bijan runs the drills with receivers, people will go “things that make you go hmmm…..”. All over him.

As far as Will Anderson, I don’t know if he will keep the top spot over Jared Verse. I just don’t. Once the attribute Olympics and off season gets underway, I just don’t see a top 5 pick on him when this is an incredibly deep class at DT and DE. Even if Anderson keep a his top spot, the other DL in this draft will call into question whether or not he’s worth the top pick, as supply does affect demand. The exception is Carter. I’ll say it and keep saying it, there are a shot ton of good OL in this draft, but not legit first round talent. **** MiniMe Out of Northwestern. Let somebody else draft his concrete-footed ass.

As far as the value, I wouldn’t mind a conversation with somebody on this. I’d make it focused on an examination on variables and value. For example, value isn’t an infinite; it has a finite declamation, a finite structure with a limited value. Any mathhead who’d like to help me construct an equation and model would be great. I’m thinking the equation would be something like (DP*PV)/QA
Let DP = draft position
Let PV = positional value
Let QA = quantity available

So SF rush offense was blah the past 5 years and only got legit the last month+ once they got CMC?

The reality is they can plug in Mostert/Wilson/Mitchell/etc. ....and their rush offense looks exactly the same.

The Bears roster is a dumpster fire
The one thing they do well is run the ball
Adding a running back won't help much if at all

If their roster was young/loaded and they were on the cusp I could see drafting him (not top 3) but the bears need way more help than at a replacement level position

 

[dentfan]

So SF rush offense was blah the past 5 years and only got legit the last month+ once they got CMC?

It was blah this season until they traded for CMC.

Some interesting stats in this article.

Run CMC: Can McCaffrey Help the 49ers Go on Another Deep Run? | Opta Analyst

With McCaffrey and Deebo Samuel both a threat to run or catch the ball, the 49ers new-look offense figures to be a nightmare for opponents.

theanalyst.com

Which prognosticated what would happen with CMC, and it was pretty spot on.

The reality is they can plug in Mostert/Wilson/Mitchell/etc. ....and their rush offense looks exactly the same.

No. If you don’t watch 49ers football, just say so. It’s okay.
Defensive coordinators who would use certain personnel groupings as anchors in a storm now have zero reference points for where to start with this offense. The 49ers could line up the same group of skill-position players and effectively mimic a half-dozen different combinations. And there’s no reason to think Getsy wouldn’t be able to do this with Bijan.

The Bears roster is a dumpster fire

As is. Agreed.

The one thing they do well is run the ball

With Justin Fields. The other two backs, seriously, what would they be without Fields? So, getting a Back that could potentially mirror 1k rushing and 1 k receiving like CMC? Priceless.

Adding a running back won't help much if at all

Reductionist much? Bijan is not just a runner. It’s up to you if you want to try and put him in your box. He ain’t gonna fit. Nope. What about possibly best and most complete receiver in the first round of this draft reduces to a basic running back? It’s your argument, man; I’m just pointing shit out.

If their roster was young/loaded and they were on the cusp I could see drafting him (not top 3) but the bears need way more help than at a replacement level position

The Bears roster is now young. We got over a hundred and sixteen million reasons to load up like regulators. Man, Warren G didn’t ride this good.

So, as I’ve said, IF (yes, it’s a big IF) we get the holes filled through FA, the most important thing is to get Fields weapons. We can either sign a top FA RB or draft the best one this decade. **** if I want to pay Saquon or Miles Sanders when I can draft Bijan! And I’m not feeling JuJu or any FA WR. How ‘bout them FA TEs? Oh? Nothing? Yeah, so let’s use the draft to load up on the fixable with FA holes and stock up on weapons for Fields.