WCSF - 5/18 Game 2: Wings (0) vs. (1) Blackhawks 12:00PM NBC

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out played and out coached big time in the 2nd and just shit in the nuetral zone. make the adjustements and get em in the 3rd. If we dont see some toews and kane shifts in the 3rd then Q has had a bad day. And something needs to be done with Saad. Also that was your last playoff game Carcillo. Stalberg welcome back in game 3.</p>


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and the skipping record on the pp...**** it never mind its just tiring to talk about</p>
 

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Crawford fucking blows ass.</p>


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Better start Ray Ray on Monday so the Hawks have a chance to take control of this series.</p>


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Wings rule.</p>
 

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this game is forgettable if there werent so many problems with it.</p>


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everything was wrong today. only thing to take out of this game was the PK again.</p>


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Get your shit together in game 3. bring back stalberg..bench carcillo...adjust your lines when they need to adjusted Q not 8 minutes into the 3rd period. stop yapping at officials Toews and the rest of the Hawks and focus on the game. Detroit woin the chess match. Give it back instead of crying to the officials even though they let Zetterberg get away with alot of shit. You gotta give it back toews stop being a priss.</p>


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Defense was absolute shit today also. Seabs..hammer...keith..HORRIBLE!!</p>


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Shaw..horrible</p>


Saad..horrible</p>


Bolland..horrible</p>


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fans also sucked today. Lets be quiet when it 2-1 and give the team zero noise. sometimes a little noise helps...believe it or not..but just keep looking at your i-phones and your apps.</p>
 

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I didn't think Keith has been bad....he's done well vs Datsyuk</p>


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Craw wasn't bad/kept his team in it. DET did well blocking a lot of shots and mucking up the neutral zone.</p>


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Hjallmarrson, Seabrook and Roszival....all very, very bad</p>


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Terrible backcheck by Sharp</p>


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Anytime Toews wants to show up, fine by me.  Great he's decent defensively...but dent the net.  He's a threat the first 5min of the game, then thats it.  Hossa's good for 1, 2 shifts a game as well.</p>


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Shaw, Bolland, Bickell...looked lost.</p>


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TCD sucked too.  </p>
 

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yup getting a bit worked up about Toews now. Thought he was horrible today the way he handled Zetterberg. Toews focus is waaay off. frustrated? yup. he has to channel that frustration better. spent way too much time bitching to the officials today. That becomes embarassing and im not going to wave the toews flag on this one. That 1st line needs a serious adjustment. You are right about Hossa he comes and goes. And sorry saads been horrible these playoffs..not waving the "hes a rookie" flag either. I understand Toews being bagged the shit out of and that's why his 2 wingers need to give better support. Which leads me to this....</p>


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Q waited to long to adjust that line today. waited till it was 3-1 to do it? should have been done to start the period if not the 2nd period when Detroit started to carry the game. I dont think Q had a good day either. babcock won the coaching match up today.</p>


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Stalberg will be back in game 3. He needs to. Can't have Carcillo in the lineup anymore. I think Stalberg probably should have played today to be honest. No point in dragging this shit out any longer than a game. But that's after the fact.</p>
 

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Especially no point when Carcillo is near useless or worse with taking dumb penalties.
 

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Here's what I seen, we were fighting the puck the entire game, couldn't catch a bounce to save our asses, Crawford fought the good fight but the guys in front didnt give him much help and whenever we had the puck detroit played us super tight.</p>
 

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Datsyuk/Zetteberg/Franzen/Filpula >Toews/Kane/Hossa/Sharp


And Carcillo's was a terrible call. Completely tick/tack for the playoffs and some of the mugging in actual plays. Those things happen every single line change. Every one
 

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Absolute shit effort today. Everyone on the Hawks was more or less shit. Wangs dictated the play the whole game. Those writing off the Wangs were well premature, Hawks will have their hands full if this is how they will play and will soon be booking tee times if they don't shape up. Toews better start scoring instead of bitching to the officials at every opportunity. Take a look at Zetterberg on how to be a captain. What's the point of dressing Carcillo to play less than 10 minutes? Useless. Where were Sharp, Hossa and Kane? Bleh.</p>


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Shape up or go home. If they still show this sort of effort in the next game, I'll be worried. The Hawks have so far coasted in the playoffs and it has worked so far against an inferior Wild and a tired Wangs team, now they are facing a real team and the result is this. Wake up.</p>
 

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Call on Bolland in the 3rd was bad too. same shit zetterberg was doign to toews all game. But who cares now? Hawks PP was an issue yet agian that game too. Guys aren't even shooting the puck anymore its in there heads so much. Not going to take anything away from Detroit today either they played a better defensive game esp low and they had the scoring touch. Officiating is the least of my concerns today. hawks PK is still at 100% which is a positive..Hawks PP is complete shit and I wouldn't care if the coaching staff threw out a complete crazy pp unit that makes no sense because the ones right now make no sense anyways. I don't think it's the system either..these guys have zero confidence on the PP. Maybe Stalberg was right if he did say it..maybe he does need to be on the pp because the guys on it right now are not the answer.</p>


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A PP goal in the earlier stages of the game could have changed the entire game. Could have..we will never know. we will never know what a pp goal would do in these playoffs until we start seeing more of them more consistently. Not once every 13 attempts.</p>
 

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="roshinaya" data-cid="196356" data-time="1368907443">
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Absolute shit effort today. Everyone on the Hawks was more or less shit. Wangs dictated the play the whole game. Those writing off the Wangs were well premature, Hawks will have their hands full if this is how they will play and will soon be booking tee times if they don't shape up. Toews better start scoring instead of bitching to the officials at every opportunity. Take a look at Zetterberg on how to be a captain. What's the point of dressing Carcillo to play less than 10 minutes? Useless. Where were Sharp, Hossa and Kane? Bleh.</p>


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Shape up or go home. If they still show this sort of effort in the next game, I'll be worried. The Hawks have so far coasted in the playoffs and it has worked so far against an inferior Wild and a tired Wangs team, now they are facing a real team and the result is this. Wake up.</p>
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Kane scored and ended up double shifting in the 3rd period because appparently no one else can do it or Q simply won't let guys like Toews get away from Zetterberg (had last line change today there are ways to get away from that match up0. Kane wasn't really the issue today it was the rest of the guys playing like scrubs and bitching too much like divas. Im pinning a lot of this loss on Q though myself. Love q but I thought he stunk today with his lines and using home ice.</p>


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Handzus also has no rights being on the 2nd line. Lets get the lines back in order as they were in the reg season a bit more. wether people like it or not Bolland 2nd line center..shaw 3rd line center (get stalberg back on the wing) Handzus 4th line center. Start there and adjust and change up shifts when needed.</p>


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not sure why i am over-reacting to one loss (the Wings were going to win at least one game). But this was an ugly loss so i guess it has me a bit more worked up thatn usuall.</p>
 

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Grimsonov" data-cid="196350" data-time="1368906772">

Shouldn't underestimate the Wings.... wonder who said that before the series.</p></blockquote>


the same guy that said Hawks in 4 after game 1.
 

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<span><span>Toews on Game 2: "It's just tough to understand sometimes why we get roughing and hooking penalties, [and] that doesn't go both ways, If that's the way they're going to play, we need to play the same way."</span></span></p>


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<span><span>Shut up and score a fucking goal. Don't turn into Canuck players.</span></span> I can't handle officiating bitching even when it is true lol. wanna make a statement Toews put that puck in the back of a net again. You are more talented than having to resort to officiating bitching. You can't score on the pp anyways so whats the point about bitching about non calls? Good thing you have a pk at 100% and you are a big part of that because other than that...you haven't played your best hockey. get used to being hacked and jabbed...you have seen it before in the playoffs and have still produced. DO IT AGAIN!!</p>


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P.S. Toews...it has gone the Hawks way before... many times. So just shut it and score. sick of guys yapping about "it never going our way" when that's simply not true. Never been pissed at our captain before but I am right now. You all can defend him now and wave the flag.</p>
 

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Bolland's penalty in the 3rd was stupid and it wasted two important minutes when we we still had a chance to come backl. He'd already roughed up Filpila good. No reason to go back for a 2nd and 3rd time which gave the refs an opportunity to blow the whislte, though they let an obvious hook on Hossa slide with about 7 minutes left when the Hawks were pressing in Detroit's D-zone and Frolik was tripped later but they let that go, too, not that our PP would've made any difference.


Carcillo had no impact on the game. Hope we see Stalberg playing Monday.
 

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Time for Carcillo to sit, bring back Stalberg.</p>
 

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Carcillo has to know he's being watched. He can't take stupid chances like that pushing the envelope, they won't hesitate to call it. That's been shown. He has to know that by now. But even saying that, Q should know that by now. Get over whatever it is with Stalberg already and dress your best fucking team.</p>
 

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Not impressed by Toews crying about the reffing now after the game, only losers do that. He better realize that he got owned by Zetterberg who managed to get a couple of helpers doing so. It was only game 2 and already Tazer is frustrated, better get that head straightened and don't let the opponent into the head, it's not the first time Z has shutdown the opponent and scored points doing so.</p>


Coach Q also has that never won against the Wangs in the playoffs monkey on his back and Babcock isn't the easiest coach to go against. The whole team need to shut up and step up. **** this loss made me angry. Had the Hawks shown some effort the loss wouldn't have bothered me, but they got outworked, outsmarted and outcoached.</p>
 

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