We need to clear some things up on here

[Hbkrusso]

It's sad that that is the only thing they can be proud about with Cutler.

The thing a lot don't understand is fans like me and the other Cutler "haters" want to see Cutler do well, for the past 3-4 seasons I have hoped to be wrong and all that potential and talent we hear about year in and year out actually translates to the field. I root for him every Sunday and hope to see him have a great game. So because I don't think the Bears should keep him on the team anymore doesn't mean I don't want him to prove me wrong. It's just unfortunate he has proved me and others right.

http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/chicago-bears/alltime-passing

that is what im proud of about jay cutler say what you will but he is the best we have ever had.

discredit it call it tallest midget whatever you like. the fact remains cutler is the best ive ever seen in a bears uni and ill always root for and wish him well.

That doesn't mean that it isn't time to be finding and grooming his replacement or that he is an elite best all time qb but he is the best bears qb ever and I cant understand why so many fans spend all their time takin a shit on him and only looking at the negatives in his career.

 

[Milton Waddams]

Every thread is a Cutler thread.

Was he worth the trade? No. Is he worth the contract? No. But he's here. He'll be here this year. Maybe in 2016, maybe not. I don't understand the "worst person in the world" shit. He throws dumbass picks. When he does, he should be raked over the coals. But it's not like his tenure has been complete shit. We had some pretty good years with him at QB, and he'll most likely set the all-time franchise TD passes record this year.

2010 (2nd year with the BEARS) - NFC Championship Game - Knox, Hester, Bennett, Kellen Davis. Seriously, those were his targets. Hub Arkush was quoted a few months ago as saying that the BEARS had the momentum in the NFC Championship Game, and that if Cutler didn't get hurt, the BEARS go to the Super Bowl. As far as losing the last game of the regular season and allowing GB in the playoffs to begin with, Martz shat the bed in that game trying to save all his tricks for the playoffs. Dumbass. Way too vanilla and nonchalant in that game on offense. The defense played their ass off though.
2011 (3rd year with the BEARS) - 7-3 and on a roll when Cutler breaks his thumb trying to make a tackle that many QB's wouldn't have even tried to make. Pretty sure I've seen Rodgers duck out on plays like that. Maybe it's the smart thing to do. Cutler would get shit on whichever way he went there I'm sure. Cutler misses the rest of the year, the BEARS lose 5 of the last 6 against shit competition. He doesn't break his thumb and the BEARS have now been in the playoffs two years in a row.
2012 (4th year with the BEARS) - 10-6 and they miss the playoffs in one of those shit years where 10-6 doesn't get you in. They didn't deserve to go the playoffs the way they closed out the season, but they were still 10-6. It very easily could've been 3 years in a row with playoff appearances.

The Trestman years are what they are - a guy who had no business being an NFL head coach with a D coordinator who's the worst in the business. Just a brutal 2 years with some fun moments on offense the first year.

Capers has owned the BEARS offense since he got to GB in 2009 (save for Trestman's first year - although GB sucked massively on D that year, & Matthews missed most of the season). Cutler has certainly played like shit against them, but it hasn't been just him (turnstile O-line more than once). GB has owned the BEARS just as they've owned the rest of the division. Check MIN's & DET's records against them. They've been the best team in the division since Rodgers ascended. The only reason we beat them @ GB in 2014 is because Rodgers got hurt on the first drive. The only reason we almost beat them the last game of 2014 is b/c Rodgers was rusty in his first game in almost 2 months. The only way we're going to beat them over the next 5 years is if our D gets a lot better.

 

[Jester]

No. Because if we had an All Pro Level QB that 2010 team is 14-2 or 13-3 and in the Super Bowl.

No shit huh? If we had the best QB in the league we would have made it further. Thank you Captain Obvious.

 

[FirstTimer]

But that is not what I said. I never said Cutler was a good QB. I said you could win with Cutler. You can if the rest of the team is good enough.

You can win with Jay Fielder if the rest of the team is good enough too.

Good company for him to be in.

 

[FirstTimer]

That was an anomaly with arguably the best single season defense in NFL history.

Dilfer also didn't turn the ball over like Cutler. He managed the game. Cutler can't even do that. He has game manager production with gunslinger turnovers.

FWIW, Dilfer's INT% in 2000 was abysmal

 

[NCChiFan]

It is the tale of two Jay's. Good Jay can beat anyone, he just doesn't show up all that often and bad Jay can lose to anyone, but he shows up a lot more. And that is what so infuriating about Jay. His good is so good, but his bad is really bad and more often the one that shows up. I will be happy when his career as a Bear is over, as good as it has been and as bad as it has been.

 

[Toast88]

The surprise teams in our division will be Minnesota and Detroit, IMO.

I think the Lions take a major step backward and the Vikings start to inch forward. The Bears? Just as bad as expected, with flashes of, "Hey, that guy's pretty good."

 

[Toast88]

If Cutler's released tomorrow, does ANY TEAM pick him up as a starter? I have my doubts.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

If Cutler's released tomorrow, does ANY TEAM pick him up as a starter? I have my doubts.

Easily.

 

[Toast88]

Easily.

Really?? I'm not saying you're definitely wrong, but I don't think it's quite as cut and dry as you might think.

Teams with a QB won't want him, and teams looking for their future QB won't want him. Who's left? I suppose a few teams looking for a one or two year stopgap, but aren't those teams already looking for their young future QB and might not want to pay a veteran subpar guy?

 

[sam slocum]

Really?? I'm not saying you're definitely wrong, but I don't think it's quite as cut and dry as you might think.

Teams with a QB won't want him, and teams looking for their future QB won't want him. Who's left? I suppose a few teams looking for a one or two year stopgap, but aren't those teams already looking for their young future QB and might not want to pay a veteran subpar guy?

The money might be a hindrance, but I have to believe Rex Ryan would be in line for a Cutler Tattoo before you could type "foot fetish"

 

[Mongo_76]

1. You can win DESPITE Cutler. You just won't win BECAUSE of Cutler. See 2010.

2. Just because a player has multiple consecutive bad seasons, it usually means every year from here on out will be the same or worse.

3. The NFL is very unpredictable. A team has gone worst to first every year for several consecutive seasons. A team has gone first to worst almost every year.

4. Coaching is almost as important as actual talent. No, coaching BRINGS OUT talent. This is especially true with younger players. But less likely with older players who suck. Like Cutler

5. Just because you sign or draft an offensive player, it doesn't mean that the player is there to only help the QB. But when a true #1 WR who, like most intelligent people, quit hoping his QB would stop sucking is traded for peanuts, it is most likely directly correlated.

6. Just because a coach has never won the superbowl, it doesn't mean he can't. Every coach that ever coached at 0 superbowls before he won his first one.

7. The QB is the most important position on the field. It still is not a reason to reach for one in the draft when other better players are there.

^^^

That's a little better...

 

[gpphat]

http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/chicago-bears/alltime-passing

that is what im proud of about jay cutler say what you will but he is the best we have ever had.

discredit it call it tallest midget whatever you like. the fact remains cutler is the best ive ever seen in a bears uni and ill always root for and wish him well.

That doesn't mean that it isn't time to be finding and grooming his replacement or that he is an elite best all time qb but he is the best bears qb ever and I cant understand why so many fans spend all their time takin a shit on him and only looking at the negatives in his career.

If Cutler surpassing QB records held by a QB who hasn't taken a snap in 65 years during an era that was heavily dominated by a run game...league average in pass attempts in 1950 331.3 to 445.6 in rush attempts, that's a difference of 114.3 in favor of rushing. Where in 2014 the league average in pass attempts is 558.7 to 427.8 in rush attempts, that's a difference of 130.90 in favor of passing. So if you consider Cutler breaking those type of passing "records" as some sort of accomplishment, I'll mail you this participation award I have right here:

And like I said in my post, as long as he is wearing a Bears uni on gameday I will always root for him and want to see him succeed. But criticizing his mediocre play for the past 6 years is different than rooting for him on gameday. It doesn't make me less of a fan because I can see that he is an average at best QB.

The reason why some fans focus on the negatives is because he has so many, it's because so much was given up for him and as fans we would think that with the flashes of talent and is physical gifts as a QB he could put it together between the ears. If he was throwing for over a 2:1 TD to Int ratio than I can say "well he is at least taking care of the ball somewhat and he isn't the Bears biggest problem.

 

[FirstTimer]

http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/chicago-bears/alltime-passing

that is what im proud of about jay cutler say what you will but he is the best we have ever had.

discredit it call it tallest midget whatever you like. the fact remains cutler is the best ive ever seen in a bears uni and ill always root for and wish him well.

That doesn't mean that it isn't time to be finding and grooming his replacement or that he is an elite best all time qb but he is the best bears qb ever and I cant understand why so many fans spend all their time takin a shit on him and only looking at the negatives in his career.

Really simple: The 2015 Chicago Bears and Jay Cutler aren't competing against Bob Avalini and Co. They are competing in an NFL where Cutler is maybe the 13-15th best QB.

 

[FirstTimer]

If Cutler's released tomorrow, does ANY TEAM pick him up as a starter? I have my doubts.

Yes, but it would be teams with situations like the Jets or Bills.

 

[FirstTimer]

If Cutler surpassing QB records held by a QB who hasn't taken a snap in 65 years during an era that was heavily dominated by a run game...league average in pass attempts in 1950 331.3 to 445.6 in rush attempts, that's a difference of 114.3 in favor of rushing. Where in 2014 the league average in pass attempts is 558.7 to 427.8 in rush attempts, that's a difference of 130.90 in favor of passing. So if you consider Cutler breaking those type of passing "records" as some sort of accomplishment, I'll mail you this participation award I have right here:

And like I said in my post, as long as he is wearing a Bears uni on gameday I will always root for him and want to see him succeed. But criticizing his mediocre play for the past 6 years is different than rooting for him on gameday. It doesn't make me less of a fan because I can see that he is an average at best QB.

The reason why some fans focus on the negatives is because he has so many, it's because so much was given up for him and as fans we would think that with the flashes of talent and is physical gifts as a QB he could put it together between the ears. If he was throwing for over a 2:1 TD to Int ratio than I can say "well he is at least taking care of the ball somewhat and he isn't the Bears biggest problem.

This. Why do we concentrate on the negatives? B/c there aren't many, if any, positives beyond "Well, at least he's not Geno Smith"

 

[TheDane]

the Vikings start to inch forward.

I think, sadly, that this is the truth. Vikings' defense is becoming really, really good on every single level, and their offense definitely has good players here and there. And if Bridgewater takes the next step, then they are PO-contenders IMO.

 

[The Hawk]

STuff a sock in this nonsense about Jay Fucking Cutler being the "BEST WE EVER HAD". It is just not true. Sid Luckman was the best quarterback that the Chicago Bears ever had. Johnny Lujack was good. And Jimmy Mac was a better quarterback than Cutler ever was. **** Cutler. A quarterback should be a leader. Cutler is not a team leader. He is a bum.

 

[The Hawk]

Yes, but it would be teams with situations like the Jets or Bills.

JEts have got a better quarterback. Cutler SUCKS.

 

[sam slocum]

If Cutler surpassing QB records held by a QB who hasn't taken a snap in 65 years during an era that was heavily dominated by a run game...league average in pass attempts in 1950 331.3 to 445.6 in rush attempts, that's a difference of 114.3 in favor of rushing. Where in 2014 the league average in pass attempts is 558.7 to 427.8 in rush attempts, that's a difference of 130.90 in favor of passing. So if you consider Cutler breaking those type of passing "records" as some sort of accomplishment, I'll mail you this participation award I have right here:

And like I said in my post, as long as he is wearing a Bears uni on gameday I will always root for him and want to see him succeed. But criticizing his mediocre play for the past 6 years is different than rooting for him on gameday. It doesn't make me less of a fan because I can see that he is an average at best QB.

The reason why some fans focus on the negatives is because he has so many, it's because so much was given up for him and as fans we would think that with the flashes of talent and is physical gifts as a QB he could put it together between the ears. If he was throwing for over a 2:1 TD to Int ratio than I can say "well he is at least taking care of the ball somewhat and he isn't the Bears biggest problem.

But I waited over 50 years for those 65 year old records to fall, and my Dad died before Grossman was run out of town.