Week 8 Thoughts and Observations

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Week 8 Thoughts and Observations

Defense

-Lets start with the defense. The defense is bad, they compete, they appear to be well coached, but the talent level is brutal. The Bears have 1 elite player [McPhee], 2 interesting player [Amos and Goldman], and 2 solid players [Acho, Jenkins]. There is just no talent on this defense, this rebuild on defense is going to be a big project.

-The Bears secondary was so bad when it mattered. I know Kyle Fuller had a pick, but he could not make the play late in the game when he was in great position to make a play. It was not a terrible game for Fuller, but it was not a great game.

- Antrel Rolle is solid, but nothing more at this point.

- Sherrick McManis is terrible and the fact that the Bears coaches continue to roll him out is one of the real head scratching moments. McManis played about 8 snaps and he committed a penalty and was embarrassed on a TD catch. I do not know what Alan Ball did to these coaches, but how McManis continues to play makes me confused and sick.

-I thought Bryce Callahan looked okay, he was a little slow to read things a couple of times, but he looked better than McManis and was not targeted over and over again by the other team. He probably looks okay because he is replacing a terrible DB, but it was something I guess.

-This is your weekly Adrian Amos is good update. I think his final position will be at SS because of how he comes down into the box and can blitz.

- Pernell McPhee is an animal, but a big part of his pass rush value is how he physically collapses a pocket, the problem was that there was no one around to clean up and when he put the RT int the backfield. McPhee is very good at generating pressure without winning a rep, but there is no one to clean up.

- Sam Acho cannot rush the passer. He is very good in other areas, but he cannot rush the passer.

- Houston and Young might as well go into witness protection. They are invisible, both want to be traded, but neither seems to have any value. The OLB position that at a minimum looked deep in training camp, now looks like a barren waste land.

-There were some moments where Christian Jones showed a combination of vision and athletic ability, if they can ever get that to happen more consistently they may have a player on their hands.

- Laroy Reynolds is not an overly talented LB, but that dude will punch you right in the mouth. His hit on AP in the hole was awesome. He looks like a guy who could be a great backup and special teams player that can give you a couple of hard reps and will sacrifice his body.

- Eddie Goldman looked tired. He is a nice young player, but he is not built to play that many reps.

- Will Sutton looked better pre-injury, but I am hoping he can get a little pass rush going now that he is starting.

Offense

- Jay Cutler played another very good game. I am not sure what it means long term, but he continues to do what he can to win games. He put the Bears in a position to win the game despite a bad game plan, Forte being hurt, and playing 3 backups of the OL.

- Adam Gase needs to just roll with Cutler and have some faith. That conservative, never ending screen pass, game plan was painful to watch and gave the Bears no chance to win. When he put his foot on the gas they had success.

- Forte being injured sucks for the Bears chances to win, but it will give them a long look at Jeremy Langford, which is huge for the future. The Bears need to make a decision on Forte and if Langford plays well they could save huge money that could be re-invested in the defense or the OL.

-I thought Jeremy Langford played okay. His pass pro was decent against a heavy blitz package, he ran hard and produced 4-5 yard runs. The drop was hideous, and it really was a pivotal moment, but hopefully he learns from it. Rookies make rookie mistakes.

-Pay Alshon Jeffery his money [Teddy KGB Voice].

-The OL is a mess because of injuries. I was happy that they benched Vlad Ducasse, but then like a bad rash he was back. Patrick Omaneh was not very good based on a first look and the Bears seem to have serious issues at OG.

- Kyle Long had a hideous rep against Danielle Hunter. The rest of the game he was okay. I am hoping that with more experience that one hideous play a game goes away. I would however pump the breaks on the LT move, his pass rush flaws need to be ironed out.

- Charles Leno was not perfect, but again he was solid. There were a couple of reps where Everson Griffin beat him for pressure, but Griffin is a very good DE and Leno again held up and kept Griffin off of the QB. It is time to admit that Leno can play, that does not mean that he should be handed the LT job in the future, but I think you can move forward with LT not being such a desperate need that you need to invest a 65 million dollar contract in the offseason.

- Matt Slauson is a pro. Might be the best move of the Emery era.


Special Teams​

-Horrific, awful, pathetic and it does not seem to get better. That kick return was a walk in kick return because no one on the left side of the punt unit got off the line and then all of them then got dominated again down the field.

-This is a talent issue. When your starters are actually backups, then your backups are actually street free agents and the special teams looks like a bunch of replacement players.

-Missed field goals suck.

- Pat O'Donnell is 6'5" 220lbs, benched 20 reps at the combine, and wanted nothing to do with tackling 5'9" 185lbs Marcus Sherrels. This is why punters are not football players.


​Coaching

-The biggest positive I have seen so far from the coaching staff is that they are willing to try new things and move guys. Whether it is performance, evaluation of young players, or simply needing a spark the Bears coaches will make changes.
 

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Not seeing the issues with the game plan that you are.........
 

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Not seeing the issues with the game plan that you are.........

You didn't find issue with the excessive number of WR screens in the first half? I don't think they picked up a first down with any of them.

Although at least Gase and Co. were smart enough to realize they weren't working and moved on to something else.
 

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You didn't find issue with the excessive number of WR screens in the first half? I don't think they picked up a first down with any of them.

Although at least Gase and Co. were smart enough to realize they weren't working and moved on to something else.

I was more inclined to think that was part of the game plan to keep the defense honest, and was part of the reason why they were more successful when they decided to open it up in the second half. That, and due to their offensive line shuffling, they needed to get the ball out quick. Once Gase was more comfortable with the o-line play, he opened it up. But who knows.

Also, the lack of effort in tackling by O'Donnell was pretty funny.. he backed his ass up all the way into the end zone. But there was no way he was going to make the tackle. The returner had a 280 pound beast leading the way and O'Donnell wasn't getting by him, and probably minimized injury risk by not trying to make the tackle.
 

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that screen play is just bad. Did I say it was bad because if I didn't, it's a very bad play call. Especially on third and five and you loose three yards. Doh!!!!!!
 

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Not seeing the issues with the game plan that you are.........

Agree. It's not like in years past where there were no half time adjustments. It go annoying in the first half yes but adjustments were made and they started stretching the field.

Everything else I agree with but I think Fuller played his best game of the year
 

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I was more inclined to think that was part of the game plan to keep the defense honest, and was part of the reason why they were more successful when they decided to open it up in the second half. That, and due to their offensive line shuffling, they needed to get the ball out quick. Once Gase was more comfortable with the o-line play, he opened it up. But who knows.

Certainly could be part of it. Like I said, at least they didn't keep throwing those screens in the second half and hope something good would happen. The other thing about all those screens is that it takes away from Cutler's mobility in and out of the pocket which has led to some of the Bears bigger passing plays this year.

Also, the lack of effort in tackling by O'Donnell was pretty funny.. he backed his ass up all the way into the end zone. But there was no way he was going to make the tackle. The returner had a 280 pound beast leading the way and O'Donnell wasn't getting by him, and probably minimized injury risk by not trying to make the tackle.


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I was more inclined to think that was part of the game plan to keep the defense honest, and was part of the reason why they were more successful when they decided to open it up in the second half. That, and due to their offensive line shuffling, they needed to get the ball out quick. Once Gase was more comfortable with the o-line play, he opened it up. But who knows.

Also, the lack of effort in tackling by O'Donnell was pretty funny.. he backed his ass up all the way into the end zone. But there was no way he was going to make the tackle. The returner had a 280 pound beast leading the way and O'Donnell wasn't getting by him, and probably minimized injury risk by not trying to make the tackle.
Thank you for posting! Glad i wasn't the only one who thought this. If anything, the players didn't execute the screen all that well. Thought royal had good blocking but didn't turn up field fast enough.

Gase was making a point to use the whole field and imo, was watching how Zimmer was reacting. When they didn't blitz like they did against Detroit, he started calling more pass plays. There was a spy lber who seemed to have Forte or cutler that would come late but those weren't blitzes. It wasn't until Forte went down did Zimmer call his double a gap blitz. At first he just gave the look and bailed into zone. I think to try to get cutler to react poorly but when that didn't work, Zimmer finally sent the blitz.

Good game plan by Gase but poorly executed early on.

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- Sherrick McManis is terrible and the fact that the Bears coaches continue to roll him out is one of the real head scratching moments. McManis played about 8 snaps and he committed a penalty and was embarrassed on a TD catch. I do not know what Alan Ball did to these coaches, but how McManis continues to play makes me confused and sick.

This is the one that really bugs me, especially considering how good Terrance Mitchell looked in the preseason. It must be obvious to the staff that McManis sucks, and they apparently refuse to play Ball, so why not give Mitchell a shot?
 

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This is the one that really bugs me, especially considering how good Terrance Mitchell looked in the preseason. It must be obvious to the staff that McManis sucks, and they apparently refuse to play Ball, so why not give Mitchell a shot?

I said the same thing a week or two about Mitchell someone replied to me that he's been hurt.
 

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You didn't find issue with the excessive number of WR screens in the first half? .

Not really. I think they were trying to stretch that defense wide across the field. Neutralize some of the pass rush and shitty OL situation the Bears were fighting yesterday. I saw the logic behind it. Another way to get the ball out of Cutlet's hands quickly.
 

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Special teams have always been a Bears strength over the last 40 years. Sad to see them so bad

Agreed. I'd really love to see Fox hire a Dave Toub disciple. There has to be an assistant that worked with Toub for years and would love to have a shot to come to Chicago and be a special teams coach. Of course, in my huge dreams, Andy Reid will get fired and Dave Toub will somehow come back.
 

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Spot on about Young and Houston. I forget they are on the team on game day.
 

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I said the same thing a week or two about Mitchell someone replied to me that he's been hurt.

He wasn't listed on the injury report last week, so that would be weird.
 

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Nice summary as ever Windy.

It's very frustrating to lose close games the way we have against Detroit and Minnesota, especially having been up a TD late in both games. But I think we need to keep some perspective - Emery left an appalling mess and most of us wanted to see the team be competitive whilst we rebuild. I think that's what we're seeing, we've competed every week whilst Cutler has been on the field, we've just been let down at key moments by players who just aren't up to it.

Focusing on him, Jay has been a big positive so far - he looks much calmer in general and more poised in the pocket, and his mistakes are far fewer. If he can keep that going it'll make it easier for us to draft a QB behind him, instead of reaching for one in the draft when its defence that needs most attention. The current version of Cutler is definitely good enough to win with, I was ready to move on but I hope he keeps proving me wrong.
 

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