What Do The Hawks Need To Do To Get More Physical?

[Pez68]

Pez... you know more about hockey than every one on this board combined (just ask yourself).

Instead of being an elitist, you could at least help a new fan out.

Yes, that's exactly what your posts were....:lol:

How do I seriously respond to someone that thinks Kane needs to be "fucking up people's faces" or "sneakily beating someone with his stick"? If it was a serious question about the actual physical aspect of hockey, sure.

All I can say to you, HeHateMe, is hockey isn't about fighting or kicking people's asses. Like, at all. It is a very small, very situational part of the game. It's certainly not something you want the majority of the players on the Hawks doing. Ever.

 

[Variable]

That sounds like lucky loser talk to me. Wouldnt you want the hawks to be the team that dishes out those sorts of hits rather than fall victim to them? I think it goes a little deeper, ita about lack of heart. It was different when thay had byfuglian.

Not if it means they don't have the puck as often. You're putting waaaaay too much importance into hitting. Even when the Hawks had Byfuglien, they were still at the bottom of the league in hits. I guess they've had a "lack of heart" the past 6 years and two Cups later if that's what you're measuring it by. No one is a "lucky loser" with the type of success they've had.

Not sure else how to put this: This is the most successful era of Blackhawks hockey, ever. Possibly as good as it'll ever be in our lifetime anyway. And it's because of the way the play the game. Why change that?

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

Not if it means they don't have the puck as often. You're putting waaaaay too much importance into hitting. Even when the Hawks had Byfuglien, they were still at the bottom of the league in hits. I guess they've had a "lack of heart" the past 6 years and two Cups later if that's what you're measuring it by. No one is a "lucky loser" with the type of success they've had.

Not sure else how to put this: This is the most successful era of Blackhawks hockey, ever. Possibly as good as it'll ever be in our lifetime anyway. And it's because of the way the play the game. Why change that?

So the Hawks beating Philly probably would have happened, but as that series progressed you don't think the hits Big Buff was putting on Pronger mattered?

 

[Variable]

Sooo yeah that's different from what I was talking about and from what he was talking about but whatever. That's one player the Hawks had who plays a certain way, at times. Like Bickell. He was talking like the Hawks overall used to be like that and that they aren't now....except they never were. Since Q has been here, they've never been the type of team that goes out of their way to get hits. They've never been that way. And because they aren't doesn't mean they "lack heart". That's a ridiculous argument.

When they do play like that, it usually doesn't end up good for them. If that's what HHM likes to watch, go watch a team like Anaheim. They'll win their division, yet still arguably be only the third best team in their own state and then get bounced in the first or second round like they always do because they face teams like LA and San Jose who are much better at puck possession than they are.

 

[HeHateMe]

Sooo yeah that's different from what I was talking about and from what he was talking about but whatever. That's one player the Hawks had who plays a certain way, at times. Like Bickell. He was talking like the Hawks overall used to be like that and that they aren't now....except they never were. Since Q has been here, they've never been the type of team that goes out their way to get hits. They've never been that way. And because they aren't doesn't mean they "lack heart". That's a ridiculous argument.

When they do play like that, it usually doesn't end up good for them.

I never said any of that.

 

[Variable]

I never said any of that.

So then because they lost Buff, one player, they lost all their "heart"? Nevermind that they would go on to win another Cup without him of course, and then get within a goal of winning another one last year without him.

 

[HeHateMe]

So then because they lost Buff, one player, they lost all their "heart"? Nevermind that they would go on to win another Cup without him of course, and then get within a goal of winning another one last year without him.

I never said they lost all their "heart." Where are you getting all of this?

 

[Variable]

Lack of heart. You said they've had a lack of heart. You know what I'm talking about. But I don't know what you are when you say things like that with the type of success they've had.

 

[HeHateMe]

Lack of heart. You said they've had a lack of heart. You know what I'm talking about. But I don't know what you are when you say things like that with the type of success they've had.

Yeah, but they didn't lose it, they need to go get it. All I'm saying is it's a piece missing from their game, and how can it be developed? That Carcillo guy used to be good for it but he's not even worth anything on this team.

 

[Variable]

They've never gotten whatever it is you think they've lost from being the way you want them to be. That's how they've gotten themselves out of games though. That's how they've lost games. They aren't going to get "heart" because Kane starts checking people. When they start playing that type of game and not the "weaker" style of play as you call it, more often than not that's a loss for them. Like Pez said, it's not something you want the Hawks to do.

 

[Pez68]

Where did all these trolls come from?

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Where did all these trolls come from?

Mods are too concerned about censoring real posters. .. killing their traffic to this site. So funny how dumb their rationale is.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

Teams facing the Hawks in the playoffs come in thinking they will pummel the Hawks and win the series because the Hawks can't play physical. As the series progresses, most of the time the other team realizes that doesn't work against the Hawks and they dump that strategy and just play hockey.....

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

Where did all these trolls come from?

No trollin here, real life hockey stuff.

 

[Urblock]

Can Shea play hockey?

 

[Novak]

Can Shea play hockey?

He's got a specific skill set that could translate over to the NHL real nicely.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Kane just got his second penalty of the year for unsportsmanlike conduct. Looks like HHMs word was heard.

 

[Urblock]

Bet Cutler would suck at hockey. Just saying hi guys.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

I think this he hate me guy may be onto something. This is pathetic.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

HHM does understand the importance of physical play.