What were the 70s like?

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The way Hunter Thompson and other analysts framed it is that during the '60s there was a flawed and fragmented but still somewhat effective mass movement towards transforming society (world-wide, not just in the US). But it got about as far as it could by '68 and a combination of repression, political assassinations, co-option, and infighting began to roll it back. The '70s in part reflected the baby boomer's discouragement when the movement missed its mark. Hard core activists kept at it but the majority who were along for the ride shifted away from wanting to change the world and focused more on making money and having a good time.

Mostly what I remember is getting together with my friends every Saturday afternoon (except in winter) to play tackle football (without equipment) then getting together that night to smoke weed and watch SNL, which in the '70s was a pretty radical departure for mass media culture and a big eye opener for us. As in every era, including this one, there was some amazing music and some very unfortunate music (see Molly Hatchet). I didn't discover punk and hip hop until about 1982 when I went away to college, but the Sex Pistols released "God Save the Queen" in 1977 and by the same time MCing/DJing/rapping was a huge urban movement that was about to break out of containment and be exposed to a wide audience.

2Pac you asked about racism and I think there was less certainty in the '70s that it could be defeated than there is now. It was before the fall of apartheid in South Africa or before people dared to believe a black man could be president of the US. When I saw your post I "remembered" the '70s as the advent of busing to desegregate the Chicago schools, except when I looked it up I found out that didn't happen until the '80s! Daley had to die before the feds had enough muscle to make the school district comply. What I do remember is being stunned when I turned on the 6:00 news ('81?) and saw white parents lined up behind barricades screaming vicious slurs at black kids who were bused-in to those schools. That was when I learned the South really had nothing on the North in the racism department. (Before anyone starts an argument I am not endorsing busing as a good solution for improving under-funded innercity schools). By the way one of my babysitters when I was a kid was the daughter of Milton Shadur, the federal judge who was instrumental in some of those desegregation decisions.
 
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The way Hunter Thompson and other analysts framed it is that during the '60s there was a flawed and fragmented but still somewhat effective mass movement towards transforming society (world-wide, not just in the US). But it got about as far as it could by '68 and a combination of repression, political assassinations, co-option, and infighting began to roll it back. The '70s in part reflected the baby boomer's discouragement when the movement missed its mark. Hard core activists kept at it but the majority who were along for the ride shifted away from wanting to change the world and focused more on making money and having a good time.
A lot of people think the late 60s early 70s was all about idealism, revolution, protest and hippies. That just wasn't the truth. If you were in the media visible places like SF, LA, Chicago, NY or colleges then that's what you assumed. But 40 miles outside of that America had the same values they had 10 years earlier

It took too much energy and focus to protest constantly, plus there was no money in it. Even George Harrison went to SF for the Summer of Love in Haight Ashbury in 68. Within a few days he claimed it was all phony and just a bunch of bums and drug addicts

During the early 70s, I worked with a guy with a crazy long haircut and revolutionary ideas. Incredibly bright and could debate anyone on the evils of capitalism and big government. I thought he would always stay with his lifestyle and principals. Recently, I saw his profile on Linked In and what he did with his life. Totally opposite. Became a businessman and very conservative

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A lot of people think the late 60s early 70s was all about idealism, revolution, protest and hippies. That just wasn't the truth. If you were in the media visible places like SF, LA, Chicago, NY or colleges then that's what you assumed. But 40 miles outside of that America had the same values they had 10 years earlier

It took too much energy and focus to protest constantly, plus there was no money in it. Even George Harrison went to SF for the Summer of Love in Haight Ashbury in 68. Within a few days he claimed it was all phony and just a bunch of bums and drug addicts

During the early 70s, I worked with a guy with a crazy long haircut and revolutionary ideas. Incredibly bright and could debate anyone on the evils of capitalism and big government. I thought he would always stay with his lifestyle and principals. Recently, I saw his profile on Linked In and what he did with his life. Totally opposite. Became a businessman and very conservative

Eventually, people get back to living their lives

Who was the guy who said something along these lines

Show me a man in his 20s that isnt liberal, and Ill show you a man with no heart

Show me a man in his 60s who isnt a conservative and Ill show you a man with no brains

Something like that..Im sure I have it wrong, but you get the idea
 

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Who was the guy who said something along these lines

Show me a man in his 20s that isnt liberal, and Ill show you a man with no heart

Show me a man in his 60s who isnt a conservative and Ill show you a man with no brains

Something like that..Im sure I have it wrong, but you get the idea
Actually, that is a very famous saying. My father said something similar to me when I was 20 and we were having a debate about capitalism. I laughed at him and blew him off. The truth of that statement is that at some point you have to deal with the realities of your life and live it.
 

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Actually, that is a very famous saying. My father said something similar to me when I was 20 and we were having a debate about capitalism. I laughed at him and blew him off. The truth of that statement is that at some point you have to deal with the realities of your life and live it.


Hell Yeah...

I googled it...Churchill is credited with it


“If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”


No offense to the over 40 crowd in here that are liberals
 
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I escaped from HS in 77. Watch the movie Dazed and Confused. Fucking nails it for me. Life was cars, pussy, football, beer and weed. Good times.
 

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I escaped from HS in 77. Watch the movie Dazed and Confused. Fucking nails it for me. Life was cars, pussy, football, beer and weed. Good times.
Great movie. I watch it about once a year and it never gets tired.
 

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When I was a paid activist in my 20s my mom had a client who was just like Jerry Rubin - an arrogant **** when he was an activist and an even more arrogant **** when he sold out and became a businessman. I will leave out the guy's name. Anyway I was visiting my mom at work and she warned me he was coming and to keep quiet, but the guy wouldn't stop needling me about how I would eventually sell out just like him. I took about a half hour of nonstop shit off the guy without saying anything but as he was walking out he said "see you in the corporate world." My instant response was "see you up against the wall". He didn't say anything after that. I still feel pretty good about that one.
 

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I dont care what you smoke or who you sleep with but goverment assistance should been handed out like Halas handed out big money.
 

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I dont care what you smoke or who you sleep with but goverment assistance should been handed out like Halas handed out big money.

Anyone who is more concerned with the poor getting some help to eat than they are with corporate welfare and the military industrial complex has their priorities very skewed.
 

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The way Hunter Thompson and other analysts framed it is that during the '60s there was a flawed and fragmented but still somewhat effective mass movement towards transforming society (world-wide, not just in the US). But it got about as far as it could by '68 and a combination of repression, political assassinations, co-option, and infighting began to roll it back. The '70s in part reflected the baby boomer's discouragement when the movement missed its mark. Hard core activists kept at it but the majority who were along for the ride shifted away from wanting to change the world and focused more on making money and having a good time.

They turned from agents of change into useful components of the consumer society. That's a real shame.
 

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Anyone who is more concerned with the poor getting some help to eat than they are with corporate welfare and the military industrial complex has their priorities very skewed.

Are you so simplistic that Gov assistance only means welfare and food stamps? Moron.

FYI. government assistance on the individual, corporate, and international levels is something I have a problem with. That includes being the worlds military police force.

And before you go all , simplistic, black and white, all or nothing, of course some assistance should be rendered but IMO we do too much now.

Stop being be a ****.
 

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Are you so simplistic that Gov assistance only means welfare and food stamps? Moron.

FYI. government assistance on the individual, corporate, and international levels is something I have a problem with. That includes being the worlds military police force.

And before you go all , simplistic, black and white, all or nothing, of course some assistance should be rendered but IMO we do too much now.

Stop being be a ****.

Usually when people respond in a rage it's because they're unable to make a coherent argument. And usually when "economically conservative" people bemoan government assistance, the type of welfare they have in mind is black people getting Obama phones, not corporate welfare.
 
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