When did Bears fans (some of them) become so anti media?

[Mighty Joe Young]

News media no longer cares about anything other than their bottom line. It is all a for profit business.

Yup. Chasing them clicks, views and listens, not authentic stories.

 

[HeHateMe]

I think there's just a lot of people who want a Joe Rogan experience when it comes to Bears information. maybe not a lot. maybe just @Mighty Joe Young and the posters here he's desperately trying to recruit to be CCS Oathkeepers to overthrow the mods and lynch @nvanprooyen before they start a CCS civil war with "the trolls" and the "deep state alt accounts"

 

[Ares]

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For years and years and years, journalists have held themselves up as gatekeepers of the truth. It has developed into an arrogance of "how dare you question us - don't you know who WE ARE? We are the truth people - you MUST believe us implicitly!"

I mean, this even goes back to Hub Arkush after the Bears fired him and he hated on them for a decade. Everyone could see there was a personal bias, but he'd get all pissed off and sanctimonious when anyone who called him on the radio questioned him on it.


To put it bluntly, sports media, and all media as a whole, functions on the capital of trust. And there has been WAY too much shit, in sports media and otherwise, where the media has lost and broken that trust, and rather than own it and say "we'll do better", they instead double down with a "how DARE you!" and end up making themselves the enemy of the people they are supposed to be getting that truth for.

And as trust is repeatedly broken, and in the age of when, thanks to the internet and camera phones, every day people can actually fact check these supposed journalists and capture HARD evidence of journalists pursuing agendas instead of truth and make it publicly available, there just is nowhere to hide anymore.

And because the younger generation has lived their whole lives on the internet, they've taken the patterns of when the media HAS lied and there WAS proof, and now see those patterns in places where there is no hard proof, which then flips on their skepticism switch.

Its the media's own agenda-seeking hubris that had caused this backlash, and they (and those that support them) likely are still too arrogant and narcissistic to admit it, which means their agendas remain extremely easy to see straight through...

Their agenda, so we're clear, is to make money for their Bosses.

American Capitalism broke yet another thing.

 

[Ares]

I think there's just a lot of people who want a Joe Rogan experience when it comes to Bears information. maybe not a lot. maybe just @Mighty Joe Young and the posters here he's desperately trying to recruit to be CCS Oathkeepers to overthrow the mods and lynch @nvanprooyen before they start a CCS civil war with "the trolls" and the "deep state alt accounts"

Ima put my feet up on @Scoot26's desk.

 

[HeHateMe]

Ima put my feet up on @Scoot26's desk.

after @oober directs you to scoot's office?

 

[Ares]

after @oober directs you to scoot's office?

@SilenceS gave me a tour of the mod offices, thx.

 

[Dstone5553]

I'm not young but the problem with sports media personalities that inject opinion is they're often wrong but suffer no consequences. They're just right back out there, spouting their wrong opinions the next day. Why the fuck should I listen to people who are wrong much of the time? Why should I give a fuck about what they say when they're usually wrong? They have no credibility.

You don't have to watch anyone you don't want to.

And, it's their job to put their opinions our there and they can't tell the future, like us, so they are going to be wrong a lot. That makes sense, doesn't it?

Like for me, there's not much I can imagine that would be more boring to watch than men and woman on TV talk about football. That's why I have a fast-forward button on my remote. But what I hate the most about folks who try to predict the future are the ones who say things like "Well, if the QB has a great game then they will win, but if he throws 30 interceptions, they'll lose."

I respect people like Stephan A because he goes out on a limb, he has the guts to do that, unlike so many others who hem and haw and try like hell to leave themselves outs.

 

[Canth]

I think one of the turning points for me was when I started actually watching the press conferences on youtube. My takeaways after that were often very different from what was being written. The context of the question that prompted a certain answer is often ignored by the writers to suit their agenda.

And on top of all that, the Chicago beat writers, especially from Sun Times and Tribune seem to live on negativity. And quite honestly, I don't care for the constant negativity - it's just not something I need or want in my life all day, every day. So, I don't read their stuff. Same reason I don't read all the posts or threads here. I support the Athletic and read Jahns, Fishbain, and then also Hoge. Guys that can be critical but are balanced and it doesn't seem like they just shit on everything and everyone as their standard operating mode.

 

[UChiLAbear]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1488512278597091334

I’ve seen dozens of posts like this lately. Younger (mostly) Bears fans that just hate the media. I feel like this is a new thing. Maybe it’s not. Thoughts?

its not a new thing, i'm near 70 and along with some of my peers have hated them for decades. Myself, at least from the early '70s. IMHO what's happening is these young people r honestly grasping the details & intricacies of football and r coming to the self-realization that they know as much, or even more, than these media hacks who r getting paid. (not all r hacks) Resentment and frustration can build up and people vent. Also, its communicated easier in today's world because of social media. This type of communication just wasn't around until recently. I mean, I'm sure there was plenty of resentment towards the media when I was growing up, but how were u going tell anyone unless it was face to face?

 

[UChiLAbear]

I find Hogue and Jahns to be the most balanced Bears listen out there. They are pretty positive guys.

I think the issue is long time beat reporters and radio personalities. I stopped listening to local sports radio years ago. It is negative and boring. Guys like Mully and Biggs have been phoning it in for a decade. They are lazy and it's easy to take the Bears suck approach of called it, because there is a better chance they will be right. What do you talk about for 3 hours a day in a poor season? They go negative and there's still enough meatballs that will listen.

There's enough content out there now that anyone should be able to find something that fills their need. Or you know, just don't listen to or read the people that upset you to that level - not a suggestion many will take.

I'm with u....Hogue & Jahns seems to be the best balanced....but obviously its an opinion thing.

 

[TexasBearfan]

its not a new thing, i'm near 70 and along with some of my peers have hated them for decades. Myself, at least from the early '70s. IMHO what's happening is these young people r honestly grasping the details & intricacies of football and r coming to the self-realization that they know as much, or even more, than these media hacks who r getting paid. (not all r hacks) Resentment and frustration can build up and people vent. Also, its communicated easier in today's world because of social media. This type of communication just wasn't around until recently. I mean, I'm sure there was plenty of resentment towards the media when I was growing up, but how were u going tell anyone unless it was face to face?

have you ever followed Ian Rappaport? He's freaking TMZ for football.....i call them the barnacles, they don't have the expertise of a Tony Romo or Aikman, they attach themselves to a thing and weasel themselves into contacts that they can extract content from...mostly because nobody reads newspapers anymore so they need a way to splash

 

[modo]

The media has turned into a bunch of hottakes of falsehoods presented as truth so they can fight for clicks. Very similar to main stream media nowadays and both are getting the ire and wrath of viewership.

Trust in media is at an all time low.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

have you ever followed Ian Rappaport? He's freaking TMZ for football.....i call them the barnacles, they don't have the expertise of a Tony Romo or Aikman, they attach themselves to a thing and weasel themselves into contacts that they can extract content from...mostly because nobody reads newspapers anymore so they need a way to splash

Ian Rappaport and Romo/Aikman literally have different jobs. ?‍

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

The media has turned into a bunch of hottakes of falsehoods presented as truth so they can fight for clicks. Very similar to main stream media nowadays and both are getting the ire and wrath of viewership.

Trust in media is at an all time low.

It is interesting, because I know the Orange guy gets a lot of blame for slapping a label on it, but when you really REALLY look at it, sports teams have known about the shit the media pulls for a long damn time, which is why, especially in football but also in other sports, they do everything they can to keep stuff in-house, because the media has exploited sports teams for a very long time now. So in that sense, they were long ahead of the rest of us...

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

It’s like they’re personally offended. ?‍

They aren't the ones starting a thread over it, so who's offended and bothered again?

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

It is curious, especially since there has been some low level beat guys and journalists who have posted here, how HARD some people here also really defend the media.

Like REALLY weird, as if somehow distrust in the media affects them personally....

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

They aren't the ones starting a thread over it, so who's offended and bothered again?

Having a question about it means I’m offended and bothered? Interesting. ?‍

 

[VickAshley✅️verified]

It is interesting, because I know the Orange guy gets a lot of blame for slapping a label on it, but when you really REALLY look at it, sports teams have known about the shit the media pulls for a long damn time, which is why, especially in football but also in other sports, they do everything they can to keep stuff in-house, because the media has exploited sports teams for a very long time now. So in that sense, they were long ahead of the rest of us...

So you literally don't trust the media in its traditional sense but then stake credibility in the random anonymous bloggers whomst don't even name themselfs or their "sources" even after they claim their sources literally got fired from their job inside the organization that made them an inside source?

You're an absolutely udder inane and insane babbler of what is literally fake news that isn't substantiated in any way, and exactly what is wrong with this country and bears fans. IGNORAMUS

 

[UChiLAbear]

have you ever followed Ian Rappaport? He's freaking TMZ for football.....i call them the barnacles, they don't have the expertise of a Tony Romo or Aikman, they attach themselves to a thing and weasel themselves into contacts that they can extract content from...mostly because nobody reads newspapers anymore so they need a way to splash

No..don't follow him....the last 25 years or so I just try to catch up on Chicago Sports when I get the chance. I do know what TMZ is, and I sure in the hell don't need that!

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

Having a question about it means I’m offended and bothered? Interesting. ?‍

Starting a thread, defending them in subsequent posts? Dude, don't even try to play it off....