Who Do You Feel Most Comfortable With In Goal?

[DewsSox79]

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The San Jose Sharks would disagree :crying:

You are kinda going back to when the hawks won the cup that really doesnt hold up much in this arguement if your basing your opinion off of that.

80 games played in the playoffs with a career .913 sv%. Experience and a proven track record in the playoffs > crawford or emery. and the useless stat, 2.29 GAA for those who love that stat.

Do the hawks need better defense? yep. Adding a player is not the 100% ansewer since we wouldnt be adding someone like a brian campbell, than add the fact that keith is inconsistent, so yes nabby>anything we have right now.

 

[Everyday I'm Byfuglien]

Emery took a decent Ottawa team to the cup finals.

Nabokov never took perennial cup contending Sharks teams beyond the conference finals.

 

[DewsSox79]

Emery took a decent Ottawa team to the cup finals.

Nabokov never took perennial cup contending Sharks teams beyond the conference finals.

your last comment is legit, I agree. Still the product of the team around him. But you cannot use emery while comparing nabokov though. That is just foolish.

If you want to debate your last sentence we can but all im saying is the comparison is weak when you combine your 2 statements.

 

[DewsSox79]

Who Do You Feel Most Comfortable With In Goal?

 

[DewsSox79]

I have to think about this poll a little bit more than just surface thoughts. If we obtain campoli it really isnt this huge upgrade for us to feel our goalies now can handle what they face. Right now, no to emery.

 

[DewsSox79]

merged from deadline rumors**

 

[southern_cross_116]

Answer - none of the above - and after reading the below quote from Leddy out of the Trib's story today:

"We always like to have a third guy high," defenseman Nick Leddy said. "Just in case one of us 'D' does pinch you always have that safety valve. What Coach Q is talking about lately is depth on the defense and having layers.

"For example, say if I pinched and we had a third guy high, he could take my spot and that's like another player on defense to have that safety valve. And then you also have that other 'D' back too."

That rotation is called cycling, and when teams do it well breakaways and odd-man rushes are limited.

Aside from never hearing it called "cycling" - but rather covering the point ... or that's what I think he's talking about here... if so, that is just plain shocking ... as that is BASIC hockey, and something the first organized team I was on got taught.

Maybe I missed something in the translation ... however if not -- well, that sort of explains a lot right there -- and you could have Ken Dryden in net and it would make zero difference in the end.


Source article: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...-blackhawks-chicago--20120210,0,6923575.story

 

[derosabomb]

we need coach bombay! q sucks

 

[southern_cross_116]

Well, say what you want, but if the team is "giving up too many odd man breakaways" - one reason could be over-use of forecheckers (in other words doing the equivalent of a full court press) - where all it takes is getting the puck past them and then you have a breakout.

Usually that happens when teams are pressing and using something over the top like a 3 forechecker scheme and no forwards are back to help out the defensemen.

Otoh - you do have to press if you are behind ... and they have been behind lately -so the attempt at max offensive pressure, as it relates to forechecker use -could also have the side effect of odd man rushes -and the other teams are making the most of it...

The point keeps coming back to this being a team that is required to keep from using the max offensive pressure forechecker strategy ...as they just can't handle it defensively -or at least this last streak is showing that to be the case... if you keep the score close you can keep a 2 forechecker (or 1 -probably not ever a none unless you got a decent lead) if you want to go super conservative) scheme -which is easier on the defensemen ... but if you got d-men pinching in ...

well, look -it isn't really rocket-science (ok, in Sydney (Australia -Sr C) it actually may have been rocket science -as we had some dill defenseman who insisted on trying the point pokecheck stunt -and he consistently missed - leading to ... odd man breaks... and out goalie wasn't -well to be diplomatic- he needed more experience...).

The fact is - that something is broken ... it is either personnel, strategy, or a combination of both... the goals against don't lie, and at this point they aren't an abberation, but rather a trend.

 

[derosabomb]

Well, say what you want, but if the team is "giving up too many odd man breakaways" - one reason could be over-use of forecheckers (in other words doing the equivalent of a full court press) - where all it takes is getting the puck past them and then you have a breakout.

Usually that happens when teams are pressing and using something over the top like a 3 forechecker scheme and no forwards are back to help out the defensemen.

Otoh - you do have to press if you are behind ... and they have been behind lately -so the attempt at max offensive pressure, as it relates to forechecker use -could also have the side effect of odd man rushes -and the other teams are making the most of it...

The point keeps coming back to this being a team that is required to keep from using the max offensive pressure forechecker strategy ...as they just can't handle it defensively -or at least this last streak is showing that to be the case... if you keep the score close you can keep a 2 forechecker (or 1 -probably not ever a none unless you got a decent lead) if you want to go super conservative) scheme -which is easier on the defensemen ... but if you got d-men pinching in ...

well, look -it isn't really rocket-science (ok, in Sydney (Australia -Sr C) it actually may have been rocket science -as we had some dill defenseman who insisted on trying the point pokecheck stunt -and he consistently missed - leading to ... odd man breaks... and out goalie wasn't -well to be diplomatic- he needed more experience...).

The fact is - that something is broken ... it is either personnel, strategy, or a combination of both... the goals against don't lie, and at this point they aren't an abberation, but rather a trend.

i love your paul revere facepalm avy.

 

[southern_cross_116]

Someone else created it -I suppose as some sort of therapy for themselves after the former governor of Alaska paid a visit to Boston, and had a major league history fail regarding things that I know people her age were taught in elementary school...

and then had some synchophantic types go in and edit Wikipedia to match her version of events... all of which seemed to amount to Paul Revere trash talking the British -while ringing a bell...

which pretty much says it all. Revisionist history, served up internets style.

Of course, I realize that it ought to be more hockey-centric... probably will be at some time.

 

[Capt. Serious]

So just because Nabby hasn't had a good playoff history doesn't mean shit right now.

You don't win over 40+ games by fluke.

 

[nwfisch]

ME.

 

[HawkWriter]

So just because Nabby hasn't had a good playoff history doesn't mean shit right now.

You don't win over 40+ games by fluke.

I'd be fine with Nabby (low risk at this point)...

However, using wins as your argument is usually a pretty poor one.

Hell, Bryzgalov got a shutout the other night and still got the loss while just a few days before Hedberg got a win after giving up 4 goals.

 

[Uman85]

Jocelyn Thibault.

 

[DewsSox79]

I'd be fine with Nabby (low risk at this point)...

However, using wins as your argument is usually a pretty poor one.

Hell, Bryzgalov got a shutout the other night and still got the loss while just a few days before Hedberg got a win after giving up 4 goals.

yes. but we have to figure out if he is a better option than crawford or emery

 

[Capt. Serious]

The way he has played this season, yes.

He's better than both guys.

 

[DMelt36]

Jocelyn Thibault.

Steve Passmore.

 

[tbo41fan]

Passmore was a Boss

 

[DewsSox79]

Passmore was a Boss

says no