Who is responsible for players Health and Physical fitness

[Visionman]

I believe the trainer is available to them at the facility if they choose to train there as allowed. I just don't think he can dictate their off time.

Correct. They can, and do, write up plans for the players to follow. But players are on their own to implement it, as most don't stay in Chicago all offseason.

 

[Sparks500]

Listening to a conversation on the radio about this, and the question came up about TOO much lifting, creating a condition where the muscle puts too much strain on the tendons.

 

[Visionman]

Listening to a conversation on the radio about this, and the question came up about TOO much lifting, creating a condition where the muscle puts too much strain on the tendons.

There is some truth to that.

 

[PolarBear]

I find it hard to believe that the Bears are just lifting more than any other team out there and that's why these injuries are happening.

When it comes to each teams weight training regime and volumes across the league, I bet that many of them are similar. There is a science to it and these guys are or at least should be monitored in regards to their training volume.

 

[Mikeropod]

FIX the damn field once and for all. It can't be overlooked how that factors in to perhaps season wear-n-tear. It certainly limits play-calling I'd say.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

I don't believe the injuries are just dumb luck when the Bears "lost games" # s are so high, has to be something there.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

FIX the damn field once and for all. It can't be overlooked how that factors in to perhaps season wear-n-tear. It certainly limits play-calling I'd say.

Just watching from home the field looked better this year than previous seasons. I could be totally wrong bout that doe.

 

[NFCnB]

Im little hesitant to blame the training staff for all these injuries, but if youre the most injured team in the league for 3 or 4 years in a row, any change is welcome.

 

[modo]

here is the IR tracker per team for 2018(now)......Bears aren't even in the top half of the league of lost players to IR....

We are just closer to the Bears, so we see the damage up close.....


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/injuries/pup

 

[modo]

Im little hesitant to blame the training staff for all these injuries, but if youre the most injured team in the league for 3 or 4 years in a row, any change is welcome.

this isn't true at all

 

[modo]

Here is the reserved?injured list last year....Bears not in top ten

TEAM	PLAYERS	2017 CAP	2017 CASH
New York Giants	27	$22,682,474	$17,587,329
San Francisco 49ers	25	$20,204,380	$12,759,350
Houston Texans	23	$28,516,023	$18,166,394
Washington Redskins	23	$17,864,111	$13,592,886
New Orleans Saints	23	$17,652,153	$11,314,524
Indianapolis Colts	23	$19,154,089	$9,546,677
Detroit Lions	21	$17,882,281	$14,499,129
Seattle Seahawks	21	$17,263,314	$13,828,950
Kansas City Chiefs	21	$15,466,946	$8,997,608
Miami Dolphins	20	$32,898,253	$25,133,014
Carolina Panthers	20	$11,938,811	$8,688,078
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	20	$9,406,490	$8,070,712
Arizona Cardinals	19	$30,091,442	$21,401,250
Chicago Bears	19	$23,873,899	$13,719,399

 

[modo]

Here is 2016 They were in top ten

TEAM	PLAYERS	2016 CAP	2016 CASH
New Orleans Saints	26	$13,920,377	$10,359,483
Baltimore Ravens	25	$16,196,023	$11,071,678
Buffalo Bills	24	$11,665,208	$7,830,446
New York Jets	22	$12,766,217	$10,401,701
Houston Texans	20	$26,484,752	$20,602,436
Chicago Bears	20	$24,343,731	$15,335,27

 

[modo]

in 2015 were far down the list

TEAM	PLAYERS	2015 CAP	2015 CASH
Baltimore Ravens	25	$28,184,283	$15,633,354
San Francisco 49ers	21	$18,165,519	$12,825,146
Dallas Cowboys	21	$18,704,729	$6,517,557
Buffalo Bills	20	$13,217,708	$8,828,329
Washington Redskins	19	$20,247,646	$16,861,124
New York Jets	19	$19,869,929	$15,814,540
Pittsburgh Steelers	19	$18,286,215	$9,059,653
Detroit Lions	18	$11,064,408	$8,034,787
New England Patriots	18	$11,885,825	$7,124,874
Arizona Cardinals	18	$9,557,992	$6,537,882
New Orleans Saints	18	$7,767,491	$5,855,934
Miami Dolphins	17	$20,506,287	$14,354,541
New York Giants	17	$9,487,260	$7,075,152
Los Angeles Rams	16	$21,651,113	$13,301,868
Indianapolis Colts	16	$5,250,483	$4,348,871
Seattle Seahawks	15	$8,068,226	$5,587,429
Kansas City Chiefs	13	$4,900,678	$3,510,013
Jacksonville Jaguars	13	$7,519,125	$3,253,742
Philadelphia Eagles	12	$12,666,966	$9,034,531
Chicago Bears	12	$12,568,738	$8,024,746

 

[modo]

The Bears being more injured than other teams is a crock of shit as I have just proven over the past 4 years we are about average.......no one bothers to do any research on this shit and we start calling for people to be fired.

 

[Mjiton]

here is the IR tracker per team for 2018(now)......Bears aren't even in the top half of the league of lost players to IR....

We are just closer to the Bears, so we see the damage up close.....


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/injuries/pup

I see that list is like 9 out of 10 starters. And I wonder if the lists take into account starters vs back ups?

 

[modo]

I see that list is like 9 out of 10 starters. And I wonder if the lists take into account starters vs back ups?

lets consider this.....how does that matter when considering if our trainers are doing a poor job.....I don't see any hard coded data on who were starters or not. I don't think there is magic in the water causing more Bears starters than any other team to lose time to injury....

Talent level starts to come into play....if you are a talented team top to bottom then the next man up theory is fine....if you are thin on talent then injuries cause problems.

It is much more a matter of talent and coaching deficient than trainer deficient.

 

[Mjiton]

lets consider this.....how does that matter when considering if our trainers are doing a poor job.....I don't see any hard coded data on who were starters or not. I don't think there is magic in the water causing more Bears starters than any other team to lose time to injury....

Talent level starts to come into play....if you are a talented team top to bottom then the next man up theory is fine....if you are thin on talent then injuries cause problems.

It is much more a matter of talent and coaching deficient than trainer deficient.

Yeah I wasn't making excuses. I just made an observation and was curious.

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

Im little hesitant to blame the training staff for all these injuries, but if youre the most injured team in the league for 3 or 4 years in a row, any change is welcome.

Damn right. Shit, change the toilet paper with a wet wipe dispenser. Fucking anything at this point.


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[BearbaFett]

here are the top 10 teams of combined salary that are on IR

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/2017/

top 3 are no surprise because of tannehill, palmer, and watt.....the bears highest salary player on IR was kevin white at only $4mill

which means that our injuries are spread out amongst a larger number of our starters compared to one dude taking up $15-20 million of the total number and then a bunch of end of roster guys

 

[modo]

here are the top 10 teams of combined salary that are on IR

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/2017/

top 3 are no surprise because of tannehill, palmer, and watt.....the bears highest salary player on IR was kevin white at only $4mill

which means that our injuries are spread out amongst a larger number of our starters compared to one dude taking up $15-20 million of the total number and then a bunch of end of roster guys

get better players on our bench....also all contracts are not even.....a higher contract does not mean you are a better player......and technically if all of outr IR players are low income that means they are less talented right?

The salary numbers mean very little.