Who still thinks CHI should have traded Deng & Noah & a pick for Carmelo Anthony?

[CODE_BLUE56]

I wasn't trying to say that Dr. J is "better" than LeBron, if it was misconstrued that way, I apologize.

that's how it came out...considering that was pretty much MY point...and you argued against it..so i had good reason to think you meant that

But if anyone is trying to make sure argument that Dr. J is some vastly inferior player to LeBron is just stupid. That's a flawed, ignorant argument.

no one has said or implied this....

Did his numbers dip when he went to the NBA? Sure, but so did EVERYONE ELSE'S, INCLUDING OTHER PLAYERS WHO'RE IN THE HALL OF FAME.

more or less validates my point about the ABA vs. the NBA

The guy still fucking averaged 22 points, nearly 7 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals and 2 blocks a game, all while shooting 50% from the floor.

ok? no one said the dude sucks..jesus

Those numbers are pretty close to another NBA player we've been debating about.... hmmm. Oh, that's right, LeBron James's numbers. So please, quit act like some of us are comparing LeBron to fucking Pete Chillcutt or Matt Fish. It's ridiculous.

lebron james averages around 28 PPG,7 RPG, 7 APG

you're making the pretty close thing subjective..anywho the base stats matter but it's more than that...

i mean hell vince carter and bernard king have relatively comparable stats to julius erving...are either of them close to Dr. J's level? absolutely not

From the context of impact on the game, his (Dr. J's) contributions have had a long-lasting impact. As great as LeBron's series was against the Pistons, how many people still talk about it?

how many people still talk about tim duncan's titles? i could pull up alot of other examples...just because people dont "talk about it" doesnt mean it isnt important or impressive...

i've already explained that lebron definitely has an impact on this game..lebron has already established himself as one of the premier players of this era...

i would say Dr. J's impact came alot from innovation more than sheer greatness like jordan(though dr. j did have his "great" moments like any great player has)

Not many. I agree with you 100% that it was an awe-inspiring stretch of games that truly cemented him as a leader and even greater player. He absolutely dominated those guys to the point that the opposition should've been embarrassed. The problem is, he still hasn't taken the next step -- that series was almost 5 years ago. He still has no post game, he still doesn't move seamlessly without the ball and oh yeah, he still doesn't have any NBA Championship.

the bolded i necessarily dont disagree with...thats the issue here...though i think lebron has finally come to realize that he needs to work on those to take that next level..and its partly mentality too....intangibles and athleticism are simply not enough

lebron is probably the most gifted player i have ever seen in this game..he's lived up to alot of his hype..the scary thing is he could be a bit better than he is right now

I think because of the weight of expectations placed on him at such a young age, his failures have been magnified quite a bit more.

i agree on this as well

I don't think you'll find too many people who'd argue LeBron is one of the best (if not best) player in the NBA right now. The problem is don't proclaim yourself to be King James when you're merely the Prince of the team you went to because you didn't have the balls to be a true leader and win a ring as an alpha male.

julius erving had moses malone on that philly team


just sayin


i think this is starting to get redundant since you're not really contradicting my argument

which was that lebron has already surpassed erving..meaning he's better than him...

 

[Glide2keva]

Finally!!!! Someone admits that his NOT being a Bull is part of the reason they don't like him. Appreciate the honesty.

People act as if they hated him since he was in Akron as a teenager, knowing damn well if he chose the Bulls, there would be a million Lebrons of every race and color running around Chicago.

That's his reason. I couldn't care less that he didn't choose the Bulls. You can go back to my posts from the time of the decision and you will see me being completely against his signing here.

I wanted Wade and Bosh because they fit the two needs the team had SG and PF. We signed Boozer to be the PF and waited a year and got Rip. I'm happy with the squad we have. So I don't have any issue with him not wearing the red and black.

I'm glad he isn't as I have never liked him.

 

[houheffna]

That's his reason. I couldn't care less that he didn't choose the Bulls. You can go back to my posts from the time of the decision and you will see me being completely against his signing here.

I wanted Wade and Bosh because they fit the two needs the team had SG and PF. We signed Boozer to be the PF and waited a year and got Rip. I'm happy with the squad we have. So I don't have any issue with him not wearing the red and black.

I'm glad he isn't as I have never liked him.

Where were you posting during the decision? Didn't you just come here after the decision? I was on Bullspodcasters.com. I was saying he was the best player on the planet, and he would be at the helm of a dynasty. Wade was older than James and much less durable. Notwithstanding I thought James was the best of the best. I wanted Bosh here too.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Where were you posting during the decision? Didn't you just come here after the decision? I was on Bullspodcasters.com. I was saying he was the best player on the planet, and he would be at the helm of a dynasty. Wade was older than James and much less durable. Notwithstanding I thought James was the best of the best. I wanted Bosh here too.

I was on ESPN.com and I too was saying Lebron was the best on the planet.
For my words of truth, I received a lot of hateful responses and it turned into the biggest forum fight in ESPN history that went to over 20000 pages long.....It was labeled "the fight thread".....it got so bad that people were talking about meeting up to box and kick each others asses....I gave people a location to meet me on 119th in the 100s on the southside and they chickened out...My boy had a camcorder and he was going to film me kicking those espn guys asses so it could be posted on espn for the world to see....but the people that talked shit to me cowarded out.........I was banned... and ever since then, everytime I came back I had to render my screenname a little just to get back on.....after that I was banned from espn a total of 46 times in a year.........

All this because I defended Lebron James....
So I sacrificed. My screennames and membership to stand up for the man....
So that is why I be hatting on Lebron now......he made an ass out of me..

**** the heat and **** Lebron.


True story.......or as people here say,"cool story bro"....

 

[thechosenone]

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[Glide2keva]

Where were you posting during the decision? Didn't you just come here after the decision? I was on Bullspodcasters.com. I was saying he was the best player on the planet, and he would be at the helm of a dynasty. Wade was older than James and much less durable. Notwithstanding I thought James was the best of the best. I wanted Bosh here too.

Check my join date. I was invited here by 97 Bulls, I think. I was on ISH since '08 and all the way leading up to the decision, I was posting against it. I wasn't as active here, but I did post about not wanting him here. I remember even getting attacked for it.

I would rather my team beat lebron's team. I wanted Wade because 1. We grew up a block from each other and his cousin is one of my best friends and he got us into Wade's Championship and Draft parties. and 2. Because a Rose and Wade back court just would've been sick.

James? Nah, you can keep him. He isn't winning anything any time soon.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Even the most famous hip hop producer of all time Dr. Dre, made his name from Dr. J. But like I said before, it's cool for hou to criticize lebron, but if we do it. You know how it goes.

Well I'm sold then.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I for one have no beef with LeBron not being a Bull. I actually wanted Wade over him. I don't hate LeBron or anyone. I don't even dislike the guy. I just find most of his supporters annoying because they get geeked up over him like everything he's done is some never before seen stuff.

Please admit that you said James Worthy > Lebron, and then when called on it, you deleted the post to not look stupid. Please do this so fisch can be happy and I will take your quote out of my sig.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

It's apparent to me, that even if Lebron wins, he'll never win.

 

[DCguy]

Please admit that you said James Worthy > Lebron, and then when called on it, you deleted the post to not look stupid. Please do this so fisch can be happy and I will take your quote out of my sig.

Well that's not the case Prope. The post is still there if I am not mistaken. I only responded because Houheffna said, to say Worthy is better than LeBron is laughable, I replied with a reason why it wasn't as laughable in my opinion. I clearly stated that I never seen Worthy play live or not much in youtube, tape, etc. So it wouldn't make sense for me to compare someone I never seen play to anybody. Me saying I would put him ahead of LeBron was mainly me talking about the NBA Finals. Obviously LeBron puts up better numbers and can even run PG and Worthy can't, just to list one thing off the top.

If I were to delete it it was only to avoid arguing over LeBron. All my arguments on here revolve around him. I just don't care to argue over him. I just accept that fact that I have differing views from most in regards to LeBron.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Well that's not the case Prope. The post is still there if I am not mistaken. I only responded because Houheffna said, to say Worthy is better than LeBron is laughable, I replied with a reason why it wasn't as laughable in my opinion. I clearly stated that I never seen Worthy play live or not much in youtube, tape, etc. So it wouldn't make sense for me to compare someone I never seen play to anybody. Me saying I would put him ahead of LeBron was mainly me talking about the NBA Finals. Obviously LeBron puts up better numbers and can even run PG and Worthy can't, just to list one thing off the top.

If I were to delete it it was only to avoid arguing over LeBron. All my arguments on here revolve around him. I just don't care to argue over him. I just accept that fact that I have differing views from most in regards to LeBron.

Well no, because here is the original quote (which can not be found in that thread)....

Well James Worthy probably isn't as strong or big as LeBron, but he is a better shooter, he is a more creative finisher, just as good as a ball handler and probably a better defender. He seemed to be an underrated athlete as well. From what I have seen personally from James Worthy which are mostly highlights, I would put him ahead of LeBron. Now I'm far from a hater on any player in any sport, just not that impressed when it comes to LeBron.

Where in that quote did you specify in the Finals?

You were wrong, just admit it.

Also: it was deleted.

 

[DCguy]

Well no, because here is the original quote (which can not be found in that thread)....

Where in that quote did you specify in the Finals?

You were wrong, just admit it.

Also: it was deleted.

I never stated in the Finals in the quote, but it was what i was thinking. I never said I was right, so what is there to admit.

Well good, I meant to delete it it anyway, to avoid all this.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I never stated in the Finals in the quote, but it was what i was thinking. I never said I was right, so what is there to admit.

Well good, I meant to delete it it anyway, to avoid all this.

LOL....well I didn't post it, but I was thinking about it. Believe me.

 

[Scoot26]

Who cares?

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

fisch

 

[Scoot26]

fisch

:lol:

 

[nwfisch]

Can't we all just :fap: to SP1994's avatar and DCguy's avatar

 

[Uman85]

Can't we all just :fap: to SP1994's avatar and DCguy's avatar

No.

That's reserved for this thread >>>>> Click Here!

 

[nwfisch]

No.

That's reserved for this thread >>>>> Click Here!

Sorrry Uman.

 

[Uman85]

Sorrry Uman.

No worries. Just want to keep the mess contained to one thread.