Why Can't The Bears Just Draft a QB and Get the Same Production out of a Rookie QB as they'd potentially get from Wentz?

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Tampa Bay
New Orleans
Oakland
Denver
San Francisco
St. Louis
Green Bay
Just to name a few

here's the 2nd part use the scroll bar to see some of the data.

XIX

1/20/85

JOE MONTANA, San Francisco 49ers *

Notre Dame

6/11/56

28

DAN MARINO, Miami Dolphins *

Pittsburgh

9/15/61

23

XX

1/26/86

Jim McMahon, Chicago Bears *

BYU

8/21/59

26

Tony Eason, New England Patriots *

Illinois

10/8/59

26

XXI

1/25/87

Phil Simms, New York Giants *

Morehead State

11/3/54

32

JOHN ELWAY, Denver Broncos *

Stanford

6/28/60

26

XXII

1/31/88

Doug Williams, Washington Redskins

Grambling

8/9/55

32

JOHN ELWAY, Denver Broncos *

Stanford

6/28/60

27

XXIII

1/22/89

JOE MONTANA, San Francisco 49ers *

Notre Dame

6/11/56

32

Boomer Esiason, Cincinnati Bengals *

Maryland

4/17/61

27

XXIV

1/28/90

JOE MONTANA, San Francisco 49ers *

Notre Dame

6/11/56

33

JOHN ELWAY, Denver Broncos *

Stanford

6/28/60

29

XXV

1/27/91

Jeff Hostetler, New York * Giants *

West Virginia

4/22/61

29

JIM KELLY, Buffalo Bills >>>USFL

Miami (FL)

2/14/60

30

XXVI

1/26/92

Mark Rypien, Washington Redskins *

Washington State

10/2/62

30

JIM KELLY, Buffalo Bills >>>USFL

Miami (FL)

2/14/60

31

XXVII

1/31/93

TROY AIKMAN, Dallas Cowboys *

Oklahoma, UCLA

11/21/66

26

JIM KELLY, Buffalo Bills>>>USFL

Miami (FL)

2/14/60

32

XXVIII

1/30/94

TROY AIKMAN, Dallas Cowboys *

Oklahoma, UCLA

11/21/66

27

JIM KELLY, Buffalo Bills >>>USFL

Miami (FL)

2/14/60

33

XXIX

1/29/95

STEVE YOUNG, San Francisco 49ers

BYU

10/11/61

33

Stan Humphries, San Diego Chargers *

NE Louisiana

4/14/65

29

XXX

1/28/96

TROY AIKMAN, Dallas Cowboys *

Oklahoma, UCLA

11/21/66

29

Neil O'Donnell, Pittsburgh Steelers

Maryland *

7/3/66

29

XXXI

1/26/97

BRETT FAVRE, Green Bay Packers

Southern Mississippi

10/10/69

27

Drew Bledsoe, New England Patriots *

Washington State

2/14/72

24

XXXII

1/25/98

JOHN ELWAY, Denver Broncos *

Stanford

6/28/60

37

BRETT FAVRE, Green Bay Packers

Southern Mississippi

10/10/69

28

XXXIII

1/31/99

JOHN ELWAY, Denver Broncos *

Stanford

6/28/60

38

Chris Chandler, Atlanta Falcons

Washington

10/12/65

33

XXXIV

1/30/00

KURT WARNER, St. Louis Rams

Northern Iowa

6/22/71

28

Steve McNair, Tennessee Titans *

Alcorn State

2/14/73

26

XXXV

1/28/01

Trent Dilfer, Baltimore Ravens

Fresno State

3/13/72

28

Kerry Collins, New York Giants

Penn State

12/30/72

28

XXXVI

2/3/02

Tom Brady, New England Patriots * *

Michigan

8/3/77

24

KURT WARNER, St. Louis Rams

Northern Iowa

6/22/71

30

XXXVII

1/26/03

Brad Johnson, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Florida State

9/13/68

34

Rich Gannon, Oakland Raiders

Delaware

12/20/65

37

XXXVIII

2/1/04

Tom Brady, New England Patriots *

Michigan

8/3/77

26

Jake Delhomme, Carolina Panthers

Louisiana-Lafayette *

1/10/75

29

XXXIX

2/6/05

Tom Brady, New England Patriots *

Michigan

8/3/77

27

Donovan McNabb, Philadelphia Eagles *

Syracuse

11/25/76

28

XL

2/5/06

Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers *

Miami (OH)

3/2/82

23

Matt Hasselbeck, Seattle Seahawks *

Boston College

9/25/75

30

XLI

2/4/07

PEYTON MANNING, Indianapolis Colts

Tennessee

3/24/76

30

Rex Grossman, Chicago Bears *

Florida

8/23/80

26

XLII

2/3/08

Eli Manning, New York Giants

Mississippi

1/3/81

27

Tom Brady, New England Patriots *

Michigan

8/3/77

30

XLIII

2/1/09

Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers *

Miami (OH)

3/2/82

26

KURT WARNER, Arizona Cardinals

Northern Iowa

6/22/71

37

XLIV

2/7/10

Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints

Purdue

1/15/79

31

PEYTON MANNING, Indianapolis Colts *

Tennessee

3/24/76

33

XLV

2/6/11

Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers * *

California

12/2/83

27

Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers *

Miami (OH)

3/2/82

28

XLVI

2/5/12

Eli Manning, New York Giants

Mississippi

1/3/81

31

Tom Brady, New England Patriots *

Michigan

8/3/77

34

XLVII

2/3/13

Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens *

Delaware

1/16/85

28

Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers *

Nevada

11/3/87

25

XLVIII

2/2/14

Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks *

NC State, Wisconsin

11/29/88

25

PEYTON MANNING, Denver Broncos

Tennessee

3/24/76

37

XLIX

2/1/15

Tom Brady, New England Patriots *

Michigan

8/3/77

37

Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks *

NC State, Wisconsin

11/29/88

26

50

2/7/16

PEYTON MANNING, Denver Broncos

Tennessee

3/24/76

39

Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers *

Auburn

5/11/89

26

LI

2/5/17

Tom Brady, New England Patriots *

Michigan

8/3/77

39

Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons *

Boston College

5/17/85

31

LII

2/4/18

Tom Brady, New England Patriots *

Michigan

8/3/77

40

Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagles *

Arizona

1/20/89

29

LIII

2/3/19

Tom Brady, New England Patriots *

Michigan

8/3/77

41

Jared Goff, LosAngeles Rams *

California

10/14/94

24

LIV

2/2/20

Jimmy Garoppolo, San Francisco 49ers

Eastern Illinois

11/2/91

28

Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs *

Texas Tech

9/17/95

24

LV	2/7/21	Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs *	Texas Tech	9/17/95	25
Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Michigan	8/3/77	43

 

[modo]

The Bears are not going anywhere significant with a rookie QB

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

The Bears are not going anywhere significant with a rookie QB

Probably not, but we’re also not going to be signing an big FA QB.

 

[Toast88]

The idiots here think they're going to get 2017 Wentz

Makes sense to bank on a guy being what he was 4 years and not 6 months ago.

Doesn't even have to be 2017 Carson Wentz.

Could be 2018 Carson Wentz - 3-1 TD-to-INT, 102.2 passer rating

Or 2019 Carson Wentz - 4-to-1 TD-to-INT, 4,000+ yards


Then again, could be 2020 Carson Wentz - 16 TDs, 15 INTs - 72 passer rating.


Why get caught up on 2017? It's not like the guy's only had one good year. He threw for 4,000 yards **after** tearing his ACL.

 

[Toast88]

ding ding ding.

Took till post 17 but this guy gets it.

Pace/nagy are fighting for their jobs this season.

I agree, but I'd argue that if a rookie QB plays well in 2021, that also saves Pace and Nagy's jobs, even if the Bears lose.

You know George is looking for any reason to keep Pace. Search your Bears heart, you know it to be true.

 

[Leomaz]

ding ding ding.

Took till post 17 but this guy gets it.

Pace/nagy are fighting for their jobs this season.

But they aren’t just fighting for their jobs for just one year. Pace can’t go about business like he will be here for only 1 more year he has to make sure the team is ready for the future as well. Giving away a bunch of draft picks only puts more pressure on Pace and Nagy for that matter

 

[Leomaz]

I agree, but I'd argue that if a rookie QB plays well in 2021, that also saves Pace and Nagy's jobs, even if the Bears lose.

You know George is looking for any reason to keep Pace. Search your Bears heart, you know it to be true.

I don’t agree. They should be expected to be 9-8 or better at the very least to keep their jobs. In my opinion
Plus they will have to beat the packers at least once next year.

 

[Toast88]

I don’t agree. They should be expected to be 9-8 or better at the very least to keep their jobs. In my opinion
Plus they will have to beat the packers at least once next year.

You have a higher opinion of George McCaskey than me, then. I don't think there's any way he wants any part of another GM search.

 

[Bear_Assed]

I forget who said it but some national nfl analysts said if wentz were a draftable commodity this year, he’d go #2

 

[Leomaz]

You have a higher opinion of George McCaskey than me, then. I don't think there's any way he wants any part of another GM search.

It’s inevitable though and another non winning season and he is going to have to do just that and let the GM pick a new coach.

 

[Bearfanfromnewjersey]

Older and Worse version of jay cutler

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

I forget who said it but some national nfl analysts said if wentz were a draftable commodity this year, he’d go #2

That comment makes no sense. Whoever said that, shouldn’t be a analyst.

 

[Visionman]

But they aren’t just fighting for their jobs for just one year. Pace can’t go about business like he will be here for only 1 more year he has to make sure the team is ready for the future as well. Giving away a bunch of draft picks only puts more pressure on Pace and Nagy for that matter

People are obsessed over this “must win now if they’re fired” idea. An idea that NO ONE in the Bears organization has even hinted at, BTW.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

People are obsessed over this “must win now if they’re fired” idea. An idea that NO ONE in the Bears organization has even hinted at, BTW.

The front office was contemplating what to do with Pace/Nagy this offseason. They have not been extended (that we know of). So yes, it’s safe to assume they are on a very hot seat.