Why Does Everyone Want To See Beckham And Ramirez Traded?

[brett05]

Gio Gonzales. Traded for Adam Dunn. Bad trade.

Dunn was a FA. Gio was gone eons ago

Reed. Better than any reliever we have now.

Debated. But so what...not saying a lot.

Buerhle" We let him go right? Wanted that one back, don't you?

Free Agrnts are not let go

Thornton: Year in and year out. a top 3-4 lefty out of the pen.

No he's not been in some time

Peavy: Still a number 3 starting pitcher.

We got Avi. That's a probable steal for wsox

This team does need pitching.
Right now the staff is full of question marks.

Really has been every year but they have done well and been healthy in the past

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[The Hawk]

Dunn was a FA. Gio was gone eons ago


Debated. But so what...not saying a lot.


Free Agrnts are not let go



No he's not been in some time



We got Avi. That's a probable steal for wsox


Really has been every year but they have done well and been healthy in the past

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Dunn was traded to the Sox. The Sox lost a LOT of quality pitching over recent years in trades and free agency. These pitchers were never realistically never
replaced with quality guys. I am not debating the worth of any of the trades. I'm just talking the bottom line. They lost pitching and need to get
some.

 

[brett05]

Dunn was traded to the Sox. The Sox lost a LOT of quality pitching over recent years in trades and free agency. These pitchers were never realistically never
replaced with quality guys. I am not debating the worth of any of the trades. I'm just talking the bottom line. They lost pitching and need to get
some.

Who did we trade?

You're a good poster but you're wrong here. Dead wrong

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[DewsSox79]

Dunn was traded to the Sox. The Sox lost a LOT of quality pitching over recent years in trades and free agency. These pitchers were never realistically never
replaced with quality guys. I am not debating the worth of any of the trades. I'm just talking the bottom line. They lost pitching and need to get
some.

ummm dunn was signed as a FA. please tell me these pitchers.


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[Capt. Serious]

Dunn was traded to the Sox. The Sox lost a LOT of quality pitching over recent years in trades and free agency. These pitchers were never realistically never
replaced with quality guys. I am not debating the worth of any of the trades. I'm just talking the bottom line. They lost pitching and need to get
some.

Wrong..

Spoiler

Adam Dunn 1b-dh
4 years/$56M (2011-14)

• 4 years/$56M (2011-14)
  • signed by Chicago White Sox as a free agent 12/3/10
  • 11:$12M, 12:$14M, 13:$15M, 14:$15M
• 2 years/$20M (2009-10)
  • signed by Washington as a free agent 2/11/09
  • 09:$8M, 10:$12M
• 2 years/$18.5M (2006-07), plus 2008 club option
  • re-signed by Cincinnati 2/06 (avoided arbitration, $8.95M-$7.1M)
  • 06:$7.5M, 07:$10.5M, 08:$13M club option ($0.5M buyout)
  • 2008 option may increase to $16M based on award bonuses
  • if club exercised 2008 option, Dunn
    receives full no-trade clause until 6/15/08 & limited no-trade
    clause for remainder of 2008 (allowing Dunn to specify 10 clubs to which
    he would accept a trade)
  • 2008 option voids if Dunn is traded before 2008
  • assignment bonus of $0.5M if traded
  • Cincinnati exercised $13M 2008 option 10/31/08
  • acquired by Arizona in trade from Cincinnati 8/11/08, with the teams splitting remaining 2008 salary of about $4M
• 1 year/$4.6M (2005)
  • re-signed by Cincinnati 1/05 (avoided arbitration)
• 1 year/$0.445M (2004)
  • re-signed by Cincinnati 3/04
• 1 year/$0.4M (2003)
  • re-signed by Cincinnati 3/03
• 1 year (2002)
  • re-signed by Cincinnati 3/02
• drafted by Cincinnati 1998 (2-50) (University of Texas)
• agent: Brian Peters, Greg Genske
• ML service: 12.074

 

[The Hawk]

Who did we trade?

You're a good poster but you're wrong here. Dead wrong

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YOU are right. I was wrong. I was thinking about Jim Thome. Sorry.

 

[brett05]

YOU are right. I was wrong. I was thinking about Jim Thome. Sorry.

Not a biggie at all. Like I said, I enjoy your posts.

 

[The Hawk]

Not a biggie at all. Like I said, I enjoy your posts.

Thanks. I appreciate that

 

[The Hawk]

I think it is about time for the White Sox to make some big time changes. They are not going to contend this year. The Tigers are right now the
best team in baseball and are running away with it. So it is time to plan for next year.

I say that right now they should look to trade Dunn and Beckham while there value is up!!!!! The need is PITCHING both starting and relief. Dunn
is hitting around .250 and Beckham around .270. Get something back for them and try like hell to cut payroll and add GOOD young pitching.

The sox have a guy at Charlotte named Micah Johnson who is going to be a star in this league. He is hitting around .330 between 2A and 3A. Great
speed as in over 80 stolen bases last year. He also has some pop. He can reach our fences and would have doubles and triples galore.

Next year our line-up would be (assuming only the players we own right to):

1. Johnson -- 2B
2. Eaton -- CF
3. Abreau -- 1B
4. Garcia -- RF
5. Rameriz -- SS
6. Gillespie -- 3B
7. Viciedo -- LF
8. ??????? -- DH (Thought about our present back-up catcher but forgot his name) Would flip-flop he and Flowers depending on opp. pitcher.
9. Flowers --- C

As for pitching. They need to get three good prospects out of Dunn and Beckham including a closer. Right now they look like the equivalent
of a poor Division III crew except for about four of them.

 

[brett05]

I think it is about time for the White Sox to make some big time changes. They are not going to contend this year. The Tigers are right now the
best team in baseball and are running away with it. So it is time to plan for next year.

I say that right now they should look to trade Dunn and Beckham while there value is up!!!!! The need is PITCHING both starting and relief. Dunn
is hitting around .250 and Beckham around .270. Get something back for them and try like hell to cut payroll and add GOOD young pitching.

The sox have a guy at Charlotte named Micah Johnson who is going to be a star in this league. He is hitting around .330 between 2A and 3A. Great
speed as in over 80 stolen bases last year. He also has some pop. He can reach our fences and would have doubles and triples galore.

Next year our line-up would be (assuming only the players we own right to):

1. Johnson -- 2B
2. Eaton -- CF
3. Abreau -- 1B
4. Garcia -- RF
5. Rameriz -- SS
6. Gillespie -- 3B
7. Viciedo -- LF
8. ??????? -- DH (Thought about our present back-up catcher but forgot his name) Would flip-flop he and Flowers depending on opp. pitcher.
9. Flowers --- C

As for pitching. They need to get three good prospects out of Dunn and Beckham including a closer. Right now they look like the equivalent
of a poor Division III crew except for about four of them.

LOL...I just started a thread on this at lunch. Looks like we think alike.

 

[nickofypres]

I think it is about time for the White Sox to make some big time changes. They are not going to contend this year. The Tigers are right now the best team in baseball and are running away with it. So it is time to plan for next year.
.

:lol:

Oakland says hey.

 

[The Hawk]

:lol:

Oakland says hey.

Oakland is very good but the Tigers pretty much have it all including three excellent starting pitchers.

 

[nickofypres]

Oakland is very good but the Tigers pretty much have it all including three excellent starting pitchers.

And Oakland doesn't?

Gray, Chavez, and Kazmir are pitching better than the Tigers' top 3.

I don't understand why the A's can never get any respect from anybody.

 

[brett05]

And Oakland doesn't?

Gray, Chavez, and Kazmir are pitching better than the Tigers' top 3.

I don't understand why the A's can never get any respect from anybody.

They have a lack of media attention and they play on the West Coast.

 

[brett05]

Oh and as much as you dislike the Kitties, I think I have the same vitriol for the A's

 

[nickofypres]

Why is that, if I may ask?

 

[brett05]

Why is that, if I may ask?

Mostly the competitiveness in my lifetime. So the A's when we are all in the AL West were the team thate it seemed always owned us like now. Back then they had players you liked to hate (Mcgwire, Canseco, Lansford, Stewart, Welch, griffin, Henderson, etc. Plus I'd always hate msyelf for staying up late to watch them only to suffer when we lost at their place. I just hate them. But now that i type this, I like hating them. Not sure if you like hating the Tigers, but I genuinely like hating the A's. And I don't wish bad things for them or things like that but they are for me my "craw" team.

 

[nickofypres]

I get erections from hating on the Tigers.

 

[The Hawk]

Are there any pitchers in low A that they can call up? I never heard of these guys before this year. Where did they get them? The Salvation Army?

 

[brett05]

Are there any pitchers in low A that they can call up? I never heard of these guys before this year. Where did they get them? The Salvation Army?

A ball

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