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Why Wine Snobs Are Faking It
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I rememeber Penn and Teller doing something similar on their show "Bullshit". Basically, they took everything cheap like water from a hose, a $3 bottle of wine, ravioli from a can, etc....and 95% of the time people just tasted the fancy thing the waiter told them it was supposed to taste like.
The one that made me laugh the hardest was a guy was told he was one of the first people in the world to be eating a new type of potato grown by he university of Oregon... when in reality, it was mashed potatoes from a box. He took one bite, set down his fork in disbelief and said "these are the greatest potatoes I have ever tasted".
The one that made me laugh the hardest was a guy was told he was one of the first people in the world to be eating a new type of potato grown by he university of Oregon... when in reality, it was mashed potatoes from a box. He took one bite, set down his fork in disbelief and said "these are the greatest potatoes I have ever tasted".
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I remember reading something, somewhere, that said wine ages and preserves itself better with a screw cap as opposed to a cork.
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Wife dragged me to a wine tasting. I went along with the snobbery, I don't know anything about wine and I'm fine with that.
After it was over and everybody was drinking the overpriced wine they bought that night, I made my move and asked for a beer, lot's of comments, wife glares at me. The guy says bottom drawer of the fridge, Old Milwaukee Light. I literally laughed out loud and called them phonies for claiming to have sophisticated pallets, while drinking swill. Most laughed along, wife not very amused. We both tell that story to this day, to prove very different points.
After it was over and everybody was drinking the overpriced wine they bought that night, I made my move and asked for a beer, lot's of comments, wife glares at me. The guy says bottom drawer of the fridge, Old Milwaukee Light. I literally laughed out loud and called them phonies for claiming to have sophisticated pallets, while drinking swill. Most laughed along, wife not very amused. We both tell that story to this day, to prove very different points.
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Does not age or preserve better, but potentially lasts longer and avoids problems with corks drying out or rotting. Screw tops are objectively superior to corks.
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This thing is not measuring whether different wines taste different. Its looking at the power of suggestion and presentation. Its not really about wine at all. Its about the power of marketing to manipulate our perceptions.
Also, the video defeats itself. They point of wine experts is just that there are so many wines available, its hard to pick one without just being random. If you have ever been on a long wine tasting through multiple vineyards, then you absolutely know there some specific wines you like more than others.
And most people that like wine remember the first time they had a really great bottle and realized what all the hype is about. Because there really are great wines are there really are shit wines.
Thats where the experts come in. They help you find the good shit cause there is a whole fuckton of mediocre, overpriced wine out there. If you know what you like and how to describe it, you can go into a good wine store and tell them and they will help you find what you want.
If you know a good wineseller, you can get phenomenal bottles in the $15-20 range.
Also, the video defeats itself. They point of wine experts is just that there are so many wines available, its hard to pick one without just being random. If you have ever been on a long wine tasting through multiple vineyards, then you absolutely know there some specific wines you like more than others.
And most people that like wine remember the first time they had a really great bottle and realized what all the hype is about. Because there really are great wines are there really are shit wines.
Thats where the experts come in. They help you find the good shit cause there is a whole fuckton of mediocre, overpriced wine out there. If you know what you like and how to describe it, you can go into a good wine store and tell them and they will help you find what you want.
If you know a good wineseller, you can get phenomenal bottles in the $15-20 range.
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Will comment later, at work now. $20-$30 is the sweet spot for great domestic reds. When you pay more, you're just paying more b/c of a limited quantity from a well-known producer. It's that simple. Any idiot can make beer, but it takes a lot more to make wine.
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talk about snobbery.
beer can be as complex and imo is more so in term of flavors. give me a good quality beer over wine anytime.
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Did you know that more beer is poured down the drain/thrown away than actually drunk? Did you know that the production of beer is a MASSIVE waste of water and uses 10X that of wine for equal production?
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Funny video, but what is it trying to prove? That taste is subjective? Yeah, no shit.
A "wine expert" or Somm is at a restaurant to assist you in finding a specific flavor profile you are looking for. There is a major different between the Pinot Noir grape grown on the west coast of America VS Burgundy, France. And inside those regions, there are different characteristics of said grape. The nuances of the basic flavor of the same grape are exciting and when you factor in how the grape is grown, crushed, and basically treated from Vine to bottle the effects are seemingly limitless.
Wine is good for you and the environment. It's the drink of the gods.
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Often when wine tasting I will say that it smelt of elderberries and about half the time they agree with me.
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The power of suggestion is amazing. Words I teach my staff to use when in doubt about a certain wine are "Full-bodied, fruit-forward, nice finish."
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I know I like German white wines. What more do I need to know?
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Yeah, I obviously didn't remember the full conclusion, but it said that screw top was better than cork. Which I'm sure sends wine snobs into a panic.
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That's just because high school/college kids drink beer.
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Never really got the appeal of wine. Just not for me. I would take a nice cold glass of Welch's Grape Juice over a bottle of wine any day. To each his/her own I suppose.
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The only reason more beer is poured down the drain is because most American beer is like making love in a canoe: It's fucking close to water.
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Wine is like a time capsule. It tells a story about a specific period of time. How much rain fell during a specific season. How much the sun shined on the vineyard. The types of soil that the grapes were grown in etc. it truly is a look back in time.
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