1994 Bulls vs 2011 Bulls in 7 game series

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Yes..This is worth bumping again because it single handedly ends the Rockets arguement. ‪94chi-hou‬‏ - YouTube

Keep in mind people, The Bulls did this without Cartwright, Williams and Longley...Its only logical to assume that the Bulls could beat them much better with ther full line, therefore the 94 Bulls very much could of beat the Rockets in the finals that season..And to the one that said the Bulls would have problems with the 94 Rockets even if Jordan was on the team, LOL to you sir.....THIS THREAD HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY OWNED..THANKKS ETERNITY...

Owned....HOW? You are making an argument where there really isn't one.

The arguments were...
1. Pip was NOT the best player in the league that year...
2. Pip was NOT the MVP, an argument can be made, but he was not robbed...
3. Hakeem (by most people's standards on this thread) was the better player and was most deserving of the award.

Now exactly what does this video change or answer concerning those arguments?
 
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Owned....HOW? You are making an argument where there really isn't one.

The arguments were...
1. Pip was NOT the best player in the league that year...
2. Pip was NOT the MVP, an argument can be made, but he was not robbed...
3. Hakeem (by most people's standards on this thread) was the better player and was most deserving of the award.

Now exactly what does this video change or answer concerning those arguments?

It answers all of them..after all, Pippen defended Olajuwon throughout many points of the game because of us being short of centers because of injuries and gave him problems..Pippen also was able to penitrate to the basket and score anytime he wanted even with Hakeem Ramis Dream standing right under te basket...So eat my shorts son...:crazydance:
 

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NO THANKS...I'M STRAIGHT.....GIVE HAKEEM A CALL..maybe he can still use your services..:rolling:

It answers all of them..after all, Pippen defended Olajuwon throughout many points of the game because of us being short of centers because of injuries and gave him problems..Pippen also was able to penitrate to the basket and score anytime he wanted even with Hakeem Ramis Dream standing right under te basket...So eat my shorts son...:crazydance:

What are you talking about? Olajuwon was guarded by either Grant or Wennington at almost all points in that video. Pippen only came over on double teams and even then Hakeem was seemingly scoring at will. Yes Scottie was also scoring and penetrating but it doesn't prove much.
 

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???????....huh???..Maybe Pax can sign your idol for a dollar to back up Watson..

I had the same thought when I saw you were a Jr Smith fan. Iverson would fry that boy lol.

My idol lol. This is coming from a grown man who is in love with Scottie Pippen lol. Come on man. I'm just a fan of Iverson, but Scottie Pippen is obviously the love of your life.
 

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I had the same thought when I saw you were a Jr Smith fan. Iverson would fry that boy lol.

My idol lol. This is coming from a grown man who is in love with Scottie Pippen lol. Come on man. I'm just a fan of Iverson, but Scottie Pippen is obviously the love of your life.

Come awwwwn mang!!! I'm just a fan of Pippen like your an iverson fan...Usually Pippen fans are smarter than Iverson fans 6 championships to zero...Thanks for your respectful comments that abide by messageboard rules and regulations..Have a nice life...:bigfinger:
 

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Come awwwwn mang!!! I'm just a fan of Pippen like your an iverson fan...Usually Pippen fans are smarter than Iverson fans 6 championships to zero...Thanks for your respectful comments that abide by messageboard rules and regulations..Have a nice life...:bigfinger:

Pippen got the rings we all know that When it comes to MVPs its Iverson 1 Pippen 0 as well. Pippen fans are smarter than Iverson fans lol, well I guess we both see that that's not always the case.....
 

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What the hell does Iverson have to do with my award winning thread which provides this forum with a quality conversation about the unappreciated 1994 Bulls??????....Absolutely nothing, that's what...Why don't you start an Allen Iverson thread on another page where you can talk to yourelf..My comrads and I re talking serious business here...Thank you very very much...
 

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It answers all of them..after all, Pippen defended Olajuwon throughout many points of the game because of us being short of centers because of injuries and gave him problems..Pippen also was able to penitrate to the basket and score anytime he wanted even with Hakeem Ramis Dream standing right under te basket...So eat my shorts son...:crazydance:

You just don't get it...that game proved nothing, and that clip proved even less.
 

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You just don't get it...that game proved nothing, and that clip proved even less.

That clip proves alot. bulls overplayed rockets on defense. i didn't included moments when hakeem turn the ball over 4 times !!! in 1st quarter due to bulls oressure under the basket and reflections. hakeem scored because bulls didn't have enough centers to guard him, only perdue and wennington, so they played him carefully bot to pick fouls. hakeem is talented player but bulls are better because they are a team that builted for years by phil jackson. players understand each other and team has excellent chemistry... you don't like scottie pippen guys, that i can see reading your posts. thare was alot of graet players in those days but bulls was the best "complete" team with scottie pippen who took responsibility for leadership and did his best to win alot of regular season games and playoffs...
 

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You just don't get it...that game proved nothing, and that clip proved even less.

Yes The video is just highlights. But its is an example. Get the game yourself and watch it all the way through and you will understand.. You have to see to be a believer. I saw the game live plus have it in my collection so I believe the bulls could win against rockets...my belief is also based on the whole season....You never saw the game so I don't understand how you can debate somthing you know nothing about.. Your speaking on hate and opinion.Its not like Eternity or I are gonna post the whole game but if you like, I can work somthing out to send you a copy for 20 dollars which would be a good deal..then you'll have the facts you crave and claim to know...Its a small price to pay for you to try and prove your right in your arguement which after you watch you will change your mind unless your blind....When you see it, then you will have a right to argue about it....As of now you can't have an opinion cause you didn't witness....For now the stats of game are listed below since you only seek facts. But keep in mind the bulls are missing 3 centers and stats don't always mean everything when certain activities arnt put in stats like game changing plays and hustle plays.......Just get da game and watch and you will understand and be converted in a differant opinion on the topic...enjoy your facts linked below under this paragraph,but that is not seeing the game..Bulls vs. Rockts is almost a balencd even matchup so a finals series between the 2 could of went either way so you can't just say you know for a fact that the Bulls would lose the series....most simulaters state 7 game series going either way..
Horace Grant didn't even play good like normal and the bulls won the posted game against the rockets...Wennington over achieved in game because of extended minutes do to the absence of cartwright. The point is that the bulls had a versatile line up to make game to game adjustments against the rockets if there would of been finals between the 2..The bulls won this game without there full line up..Now add a Luc Longly to the mix and the bulls chances increase more..Bottom line is the bulls won this game without all there pieces..now imagine what the would of done to the rockets with the rest of there bench and adding Longley to that lineup who is traded to the bulls not long after this game occured.. Did I break it down good enough for you hue hefna??BELIEVING THE 1994 BULLS COULD OF WON A PLAYOFF SERIES AGAINST ROCKETS IS NOT AN ILLOGICAL FAR FETCHED UNREALISTIC CRAZY IDEA AT ALL !!!!!!. PERIOD!!!!!

Houston Rockets at Chicago Bulls Box Score, January 15, 1994 | Basketball-Reference.com

With all do respect Mr.Hefner, debating you is my pleasure....I wish you a pleasant weekend sir.......
 
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That clip proves alot. bulls overplayed rockets on defense. i didn't included moments when hakeem turn the ball over 4 times !!! in 1st quarter due to bulls oressure under the basket and reflections. hakeem scored because bulls didn't have enough centers to guard him, only perdue and wennington, so they played him carefully bot to pick fouls. hakeem is talented player but bulls are better because they are a team that builted for years by phil jackson. players understand each other and team has excellent chemistry... you don't like scottie pippen guys, that i can see reading your posts. thare was alot of graet players in those days but bulls was the best "complete" team with scottie pippen who took responsibility for leadership and did his best to win alot of regular season games and playoffs...

I see you guys changing the debate because you obviously felt you were at a dead end. Pippen and the Bulls were one of the top teams in the league that year, and most agree that Pippen was worthy of his placement in the MVP voting...yet we hate Pippen....what the hell do you guys want from Bulls fans???

And the leader of that team was Michael Jordan when they were winning titles. That was JORDAN'S TEAM! Scottie did play good cop to Jordan's bad cop...but Jordan was the top dog.

The Knicks COULD have beaten the Rockets...same with the Sonics and other top teams...but the Rockets won the title...mainly because the best player in the league and the MVP played on their team. Just stop the madness, Pippen has gotten his just due from most fans in this thread...
 
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I see you guys changing the debate because you obviously felt you were at a dead end. Pippen and the Bulls were one of the top teams in the league that year, and most agree that Pippen was worthy of his placement in the MVP voting...yet we hat Pippen....what the hell do you guys want from Bulls fans???

And the leader of that team was Michael Jordan when they were winning titles. That was JORDAN'S TEAM! Scottie did play good cop to Jordan's bad cop...but Jordan was the top dog.

The Knicks COULD have beaten the Rockets...same with the Sonics and other top teams...but the Rockets won the title...mainly because the best player in the league and the MVP played on their team. Just stop the madness, Pippen has gotten his just due from most fans in this thread...

All we want to say that Pippen was more valuable then hakeem in 1994 season. no more.
 

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Yes The video is just highlights. But its is an example. Get the game yourself and watch it all the way through and you will understand.. You have to see to be a believer. I saw the game live plus have it in my collection so I believe the bulls could win against rockets...my belief is also based on the whole season....You never saw the game so I don't understand how you can debate somthing you know nothing about.. Your speaking on hate and opinion.Its not like Eternity or I are gonna post the whole game but if you like, I can work somthing out to send you a copy for 20 dollars which would be a good deal..then you'll have the facts you crave and claim to know...Its a small price to pay for you to try and prove your right in your arguement which after you watch you will change your mind unless your blind....When you see it, then you will have a right to argue about it....As of now you can't have an opinion cause you didn't witness....For now the stats of game are listed below since you only seek facts. But keep in mind the bulls are missing 3 centers and stats don't always mean everything when certain activities arnt put in stats like game changing plays and hustle plays.......Just get da game and watch and you will understand and be converted in a differant opinion on the topic...enjoy your facts linked below under this paragraph,but that is not seeing the game..Bulls vs. Rockts is almost a balencd even matchup so a finals series between the 2 could of went either way so you can't just say you know for a fact that the Bulls would lose the series....most simulaters state 7 game series going either way..
Horace Grant didn't even play good like normal and the bulls won the posted game against the rockets...Wennington over achieved in game because of extended minutes do to the absence of cartwright. The point is that the bulls had a versatile line up to make game to game adjustments against the rockets if there would of been finals between the 2..The bulls won this game without there full line up..Now add a Luc Longly to the mix and the bulls chances increase more..Bottom line is the bulls won this game without all there pieces..now imagine what the would of done to the rockets with the rest of there bench and adding Longley to that lineup who is traded to the bulls not long after this game occured.. Did I break it down good enough for you hue hefna??BELIEVING THE 1994 BULLS COULD OF WON A PLAYOFF SERIES AGAINST ROCKETS IS NOT AN ILLOGICAL FAR FETCHED UNREALISTIC CRAZY IDEA AT ALL !!!!!!. PERIOD!!!!!

Houston Rockets at Chicago Bulls Box Score, January 15, 1994 | Basketball-Reference.com

With all do respect Mr.Hefner, debating you is my pleasure....I wish you a pleasant weekend sir.......

You don't know me...how the hell are you going to tell me what I did and didn't watch almost 20 years ago!

What is far-fetched and absolutely insane is your thinking that Luc Longley and Bill Wennington could do anything to stop Hakeem...that is absolutely crazy.

Let me tell you what I remember about the Rockets and that season...Wennington saved his job in Chicago...by scoring 19points against them in Houston. And he did it by shooting jumpers. Does that mean he is the difference between the Rockets winning and losing...of course not! If Patrick Ewing couldn't stop Hakeem, why the hell are you even mentioning Scott Williams??? Of course they could have beaten the Rockets...its more likely that the Rockets would have beaten them, because despite what you are saying...the Bulls had no answer for Hakeem...he averaged close to 30pts and 11rebs against the Bulls that season...give me a break.
 

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All we want to say that Pippen was more valuable then hakeem in 1994 season. no more.

And you are wrong...and that video proves jackshit! That is all I am saying. They play 82 games a year...one game against the Rockets proves that Pippen was more worthy of the MVP? And you act as if the Bulls shut Hakeem down! 29pts and 10rebs is not shutting Hakeem down...sorry.
 

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And you are wrong...and that video proves jackshit! That is all I am saying. They play 82 games a year...one game against the Rockets proves that Pippen was more worthy of the MVP? And you act as if the Bulls shut Hakeem down! 29pts and 10rebs is not shutting Hakeem down...sorry.

also 8 turnovers by hakeem and bulls had only 2 centers for this game so they can't defend hakeem well. he scored 29 pts but his team lost. stats are not full as we said before, alot of defensive work not counting in the games.
 

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