2010-2011 Blackhawk Rumors/Transactions

[Ton]

2010-2011 Rumors/Transactions

Its time for a new topic for the season.



We left off with Campbell rumors... possibly for Gomez. Also Jay McKee being a possibility as a band-aid d-man.

 

[E Runs]

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Campbell for Gomez!? Who's been smoking the peyote?

 

[BigPete]

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I would love to see a bandaid like McKee for this Defense. Because Cullisuck and Scott have no business being in this league. Boynton was cast off from a bad team for a reason...just saying...

 

[winos5]

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I think the latest is Campbell to the Islanders or the Habs. Why the Blackhawks would even consider trading him escapes me, other than the other teams have some interest in him. It's pretty obvious he's not easily replaced at this point.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

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[quote name="winos5"]I think the latest is Campbell to the Islanders or the Habs. Why the Blackhawks would even consider trading him escapes me, other than the other teams have some interest in him. It's pretty obvious he's not easily replaced at this point.[/quote]



Because John Scott's proven to be a viable replacement.



































































:dance: :dance:





:doh:

 

[PatrickShart]

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[quote name="E Runs"]Campbell for Gomez!? Who's been smoking the peyote?[/quote]





Me. But I dont know what that has to do with anything.

 

[TSD]

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[quote name="winos5"]I think the latest is Campbell to the Islanders or the Habs. Why the Blackhawks would even consider trading him escapes me, other than the other teams have some interest in him. It's pretty obvious he's not easily replaced at this point.[/quote]





Well maybe management thinks the possibility of getting rid of his contract is worth only having 3 NHL quality defensemen this season.



I don't think trading him would mean we basically sacrifice this season to the Hockey Gods, Depending on what the return for Campbell is/isn't it could be a genuinely good longterm move.



It figures....it appears theres interest in campbell, and its at a time were losing him would really hurt.

 

[The Count Dante]

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I would hate to see Campbell 9sucks) go as a fan of his play, but if it was for future talent that shows great promise? Do what you have to do.



For Gomez is a travesty. That is just horrible.



But with Campbell, while not a destined team like it was last year, we make a good push at the playoffs, even if not terribly deep. Without him? Well, it certainly clouds that significantly.



But i think that Campbells role is always clear when he isnt playing. When he is, it is kind of taken for granted...



Cinderella certainly said it best...



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9nGoei88I0[/youtube]

 

[MassHavoc]

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We need Campbell on the ice right now if for no other reason that to give Keith and Seabs rest. Keeping the shitty guys off the ice longer, and keeping the good ones fresh? Well that's more than you can ask for from anyone.

 

[Tater]

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[quote name="MassHavoc"]We need Campbell on the ice right now if for no other reason that to give Keith and Seabs rest. Keeping the shitty guys off the ice longer, and keeping the good ones fresh? Well that's more than you can ask for from anyone.[/quote]



For the same price they could probably get 2 pretty high quality Dmen and get rid of Cullimore AND Scott.



Not saying I want him traded at all, but for the perfect offer....

 

[MassHavoc]

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[quote name="Tater"]



For the same price they could probably get 2 pretty high quality Dmen and get rid of Cullimore AND Scott.



Not saying I want him traded at all, but for the perfect offer....[/quote]

I just not sure we can, with the length and price of his contract. I'd settle for one solid one in return and one solid center.

 

[Tater]

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[quote name="MassHavoc"]

I just not sure we can, with the length and price of his contract. I'd settle for one solid one in return and one solid center.[/quote]



Even better yet.

 

[Drdudz]

He's 31 with now some injury issues and 5 years left on a huge contract that many deemed unmovable. He does have a unique skill set not matched by any other Hawk. Moving Campbell and his contract will pay dividends for years to come despite losing his skill set. Cap space helps get Seabs paid as well as bring in other help in/after season. Tough decision sure, but upside far outweighs downside IMO.

 

[roshinaya]

Two freak injuries does not equal injury issues. And if BC is shipped off to somewhere, I am pretty sure a long-term big caphit contract is coming back.

 

[Drdudz]

Two freak injuries does not equal injury issues. And if BC is shipped off to somewhere, I am pretty sure a long-term big caphit contract is coming back.

Scooter's not gonna deal an albatross contract for another one. He'll likely take a hit on comparable NHL-ready/prospect talent in return.



Do you really want to take chances on sitting on offers to unload BC's contract now, and be happy with a $7M 33+ year old BC knowing it costs you the ability to sign future talent? Make the deal NOW if it's there!

 

[PatrickShart]

I think the fact that Leddy, Lalonde or Connelly could eventually be top 4 Dmen in the near future means 1 of Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson or Campbell gets moved.



I've like Campbell since getting him - and believe he's a huge part of the D's issues right now. However...him having 5yrs and 33mil left...this may be the highest/best opportunity to move him (when he gets back and shows he healthy). But he still ahs to give a list of teams he's go to...etc.



As long as they don't take on a bad contract coming back...but who can take that on? Rumors are...PHX is in the market for some bigger money players with the new owner to be named here shortly...and they may be looking to move Yandle (which would be foolish for them to move him to anyone). But I'd kick those tires for sure.



I don't know, I personally don't think they move him. But.....in a few years...he may become what happened to Redden, Nylander or Huet. So he may look at getting moved to a team with a lot of cap space as less "threatening" to a demotion like that.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

First - the only reason to trade Campbell is due to his salary cap hit - not his on-ice contribution.



Second - I think it's a pipe dream to think Campbell can be traded without a similar albatross contract coming back in return - which pretty much negates the point of trading him.



Finally, if a trading partner for Campbell can be found from among the limitted number of teams that Campbell designates ... and if the return player(s) salary cap hit(s) are economically advantagious for the Hawks ... and if Hawks management is resigned to use 2010/11 as a rebuilding year instead of making a serious playoff push - then a case can be made for trading Campbell - otherwise NO.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

I think the fact that Leddy, Lalonde or Connelly could eventually be top 4 Dmen in the near future means 1 of Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson or Campbell gets moved.

I'm not sure I'd put Connelly in the same category as Leddy, and probably not Lalonde either, because Connelly may be too small for the NHL game. But then there is Olsen that should be a top-4 d-man at some point over the next few years, plus I think Vishnevskiy may still prove to be an NHL calibre d-man.



So, your point is still valid - at least one of the current top-4 will probably need to be moved to make room for the talent coming up.

 

[Shoots_he_scores]

First - the only reason to trade Campbell is due to his salary cap hit - not his on-ice contribution.



Second - I think it's a pipe dream to think Campbell can be traded without a similar albatross contract coming back in return - which pretty much negates the point of trading him.



Finally, if a trading partner for Campbell can be found from among the limitted number of teams that Campbell designates ... and if the return player(s) salary cap hit(s) are economically advantagious for the Hawks ... and if Hawks management is resigned to use 2010/11 as a rebuilding year instead of making a serious playoff push - then a case can be made for trading Campbell - otherwise NO.

That phrase is no longer mentioned around here. We rebuilt and I hope we never have to again

 

[Drdudz]

I think the latest is Campbell to the Islanders or the Habs. Why the Blackhawks would even consider trading him escapes me, other than the other teams have some interest in him. It's pretty obvious he's not easily replaced at this point.

1. Can't give Seabrook (RFA next year) even a modest resigning raised contract (above Nik) w/o removing somebody else from the roster

2. Can't replace your $500k roster fill-ins (Pisani, Boynton, Scott, Hendry, Cullimore, Skille) with legitimate upgrades- most solid (not star) role players in the league make at least $1M/yr.

3. Can't hang your hat on getting another budget goalie next year

4. Can't climb out of cap hell!



Even if BC comes back guns a blazin' (I hope) this team is gonna struggle to repeat and go deep in playoffs in subsequent years with only 2.5 front lines, 4 Dmen, and lucky-to-sign budget Cup-hungry goaltender.



Not sayin, just sayin.