2011-12 Chicago Cubs Offseason Ideas Thread

[AddisonStation]

What would you give up though? Cubs farm = slim pickings.

I don't really know really. Not a lot but I really don't think it would take THAT much to get him.

How about Soriano with most of the contract eaten and a spec?

 

[Rice Cube]

Colvin, Marshall, and Smith. I think that'd get it done.

Hmmm. That might be fun, although you'd think Marshall alone would do it. Colvin seems like a negative trade item at this point. Smith is an unknown because he does well in the minors and winter league but no one wants to give him a chance.

 

[Rice Cube]

I don't really know really. Not a lot but I really don't think it would take THAT much to get him.

How about Soriano with most of the contract eaten and a spec?

I think Soriano is more enticing to an AL team to be honest. If at all.

 

[Captain Obvious]

I don't really know really. Not a lot but I really don't think it would take THAT much to get him.

How about Soriano with most of the contract eaten and a spec?

You're probably right. I could see the Cubs trying to spin last year as a bad year to break down his value. When in actuality, last year was easily the best year of his career. I want him bad, though. His numbers at Wrigley makes my pee-pee tingle.

 

[Rice Cube]

You also have to figure that Theo and Jed are going up against Josh Byrnes now.

 

[AddisonStation]

I think Soriano is more enticing to an AL team to be honest. If at all.

Ya I agree... I can dream though.

I do think an AL team will give Soriano a shot. He wouldn't be the worst DH out there.

 

[tbo41fan]

marmol/prospects to az for aaron hill


i think he just signed a contract though, so unlikely

 

[Lex L.]

Me want Chase Headley.

How would you feel about Pursue Penisley?

 

[Rice Cube]

How would you feel about Pursue Penisley?

The new CBA prevents discrimination based on sexual orientation, so bring it on!

Also, Aaron Hill is not available.

Diamondbacks Sign Aaron Hill To Two-Year Deal: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

 

[Rice Cube]

Yeah, I was bored:

Poker Face (Theo Epstein Edition) | World Series Dreaming

 

[AddisonStation]

Yeah, I was bored:

Poker Face (Theo Epstein Edition) | World Series Dreaming

Ya.... I'd probably just keep that one in your personal files...

 

[Rice Cube]

Ya.... I'd probably just keep that one in your personal files...

Haters gonna hate.

 

[Rice Cube]

So, who's gonna be the sucker this time?

Cubs may be willing to eat half of Alfonso Soriano’s contract | HardballTalk

 

[AddisonStation]

So, who's gonna be the sucker this time?

Cubs may be willing to eat half of Alfonso Soriano’s contract | HardballTalk

That's not enough. I think they'll have to eat at least 70 percent at LEAST!

 

[waldo7239117]

Rumors/Notes Over the Last Week or so |

Sorry for the limited Cub posts as of late, but I haven’t had much time… I just got my 2nd job, I have 2 cadet programs and school. Let’s just forget about that and let me catch up on everything Cubs over the last week or so:

* The winner in the bidding for Yu Darvish was finally announced yesterday. The winner was the Texas Rangers with a bid of 51.7 million. Now they have 30 days to negotiate a deal with Darvish. If no deal is completed within the 30 days, Darvish will return to Japan. So… a deal will have to be completed. It looks like the Rangers will go over 100 million for Darvish. No word on what the deal could look like, but I heard around 6 years and 70 million. That’s a lot of money for a pitcher who never pitched in the MLB before. Darvish was a star in Japan, but Japan and the MLB are different. The Blue Jays came close to winning the big on Darvish as their bid was 50 million. The Cubs did put a big in, but no word on what their bid came out to be. My guess it was in the 40 million range. Does this mean the Rangers are out on free agent Prince Fielder? Only time will tell, but I have ton say yes because they won’t be able to offer as much a year that another team will. However, you never know, look at the Angels situation.

* Cuban’ Yoenis Cespedes is expected to become a free agent in the MLB soon. After he receives residency in the Dominican Republic. He should recieve residency this week or next week at the latest. The Cubs are still very interested in Cespedes and will try to sign him. Cespedes reportedly is looking for a deal around 60 million. To be honest, I would take the chance on Cespedes and give him the 60 million over 4-5 years. He would be the Cubs new CF and Byrd will move to LF or will be the 4th OF. If the Cubs did sign Cespedes, Alfonso Soriano will most likely be gone. Then Byrd will move to LF until top prospect Brett Jackson gets the call. A outfield of Jackson (LF), Cespedes (CF) and DeJesus (RF) would be athletic and good defensively. What the Cubs have been emphasizing in doing this offseason. The Cubs also still have interest in Jorge Soler. I say the Cubs will turn their attention to Soler of they can’t sign Cespedes. I guess we’ll see how much interest in Cespedes over the next week or so.

* Yeah, more Prince Fielder… oh joy! I wish a team will just sign him already (hopefully Cubs!). But not much has been lately. It looks like the Rangers are out after the signing of Yu Darvish. Also, there’s a chance they’re not. My guess is yes. The M’s seem to not have enough money for Feilder. The M’s like Fielder a lot, but money ain’t there. As of right now, it looks like Fielder is down to the Blue Jays and the Cubs. With the Cubs being the favorite. The Cubs like Fielder and have been doing a background check on them, but only on their terms. No 10-year contract. Do the Jays really want to take a chance on another long-term contract? After the ones they gave to Alex Rios and Vernon Wells that completely fail. They’ll be in the sweepstakes, but I doubt they will give him the years and money he wants. Not being bias as a Cubs fan, but I still think the Cubs will sign Fielder. A contract like 6 years/150 million with a option for the 7th year and an opt out clause.

* A report surface last week that the Cubs were negotiating a contract with pitcher Paul Maholm whom is a free agent. Not much since, but there is still a lot of interest from the Cubs side. I bet the Cubs are looking at all other options before signing Maholm such as Joe Saunders who was non-tender last week and long time Red Sox Tim Wakefield. At the end I expect the Cubs to sign Maholm to a 2 year contract worth 10-12 million. I’m all in favor for a Maholm signing as I like him. He’s not that bad, especially if he’ll come in and be the 4th or 5th starter. Joining Garza, Dempster and Zambrano. Not lookin’ too bad.

* There was a rumor out there that the Cubs were talking about a trade with the Padres regarding Matt Garza and their top prospect Anthony Rizzo. Rizzo is now blocked in San Diego after the Padres traded Mat Latos to the Reds for 1B Yonder Alonso, P Edinson Volquez, Brad Boxberger and Yasmani Grandal. Rizzo got blocked behind Alonzo. Many say Rizzo is still 1 year away. The 22 year old seems to fit the Cubs plan if they plan on rebuilding, but no one knows for sure right now. The base of the trade would be Garza and Rizzo. Their would have to be a 3rd team involved for a deal to work and the name mentioned was the Texas Rangers. Before the Rangers won the rights to Yu Darvish, they had interest in Matt Garza. So, that means the Rangers would have taken Matt Garza in the trade. However, that does not seem likely anymore and a trade may be to complicated to complete. The Blue Jays now seem to have the most in Garza and willing to pay. The Jays were big on Darvish but lost, so they will be looking elsewhere for a SP. I just think Garza will stay and try their best to contend in ’12. As for Rizzo, I don’t see a trade happening.. at least for the Cubs side.

*The dream front office adds another member. The Cubs sign Boston Red Sox National-Cross Checker Matt Dorey. Dorey spent 4 seasons with the Red Sox as a pro scout. Dorey will be the last Red Sox personnel the Cubs sign for 3 years. That was a deal the Cubs and Red Sox agreed upon. In other news, the Cubs hired ex Red Sox pro scout Kyle Evans. Since he was not a Red Sox scout anymore, the Cubs had full access to sign Evans with no penalty. Also, the Cubs could be signing another former Red Sox Craig Shipley, who was the VP of international scouting and player personnel. The dream front office is starting to become one of the best in the game, if that has not happen already.

Well that’s the latest.. I’ll try to have more posts up if news breaks and if I have time.

 

[Rice Cube]

Ever wonder what the interest level was of Byrd-to-Nationals, especially with DC looking for a good CF? Otherwise they have to rely on Jayson Werth...

Nationals likely to start Jayson Werth in center field | HardballTalk

 

[Rice Cube]

Since the Phillies may be in need of a second baseman while Chase Utley is rehabbing, and may want to upgrade their backup catcher, this might be a good trade scenario to explore. I wonder who the Phillies have that could be useful to the Cubs.

 

[Rice Cube]

Heyman On Lannan, Rangers, Pirates, Padres: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

The Rangers are in the market for a righty hitting outfielder, Heyman tweets. Texas has plenty of pitching depth to dangle in front of teams but might prefer to hold on to their surplus.

Hmmm...wonder what they'd give up for Reed Johnson.

 

[waldo7239117]

Baves looking for OF help, Marlon Byrd meet Atlanta. Jackson meet Wrigley.

 

[dabynsky]

Unless a team is really willing to pay for a guy, the OF is going to be the oldest part of this roster. And even if Atlanta did give up something of value for Byrd and he was moved, I would guess that Jackson would remain in AAA while some combination of Johnson, Sappelt, Mather and Campana patrolled center.