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I don't think it would go 7 if they met in the playoffs. The Blues have all the makings of a team on the brink of some serious regression.</p>
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I don't think it would go 7 if they met in the playoffs. The Blues have all the makings of a team on the brink of some serious regression.</p>
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Basically Detroit of 2013, but better.</p>
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I don't think it would go 7 if they met in the playoffs. The Blues have all the makings of a team on the brink of some serious regression.</p>
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Basically Detroit of 2013, but better.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="BlackhawkPaul" data-cid="218821" data-time="1389379491">
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Basically Detroit of 2013, but better.</p>
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Well no, that team has a couple hall of famers on it, along with some young promising players. The Blues have no where near that kind of talent playing for them, not at forward anyway. We'll see what Pietrangelo becomes in the years ahead.</p>
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Basically Detroit of 2013, but better.</p>
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Well no, that team has a couple hall of famers on it, along with some young promising players. The Blues have no where near that kind of talent playing for them, not at forward anyway. We'll see what Pietrangelo becomes in the years ahead.</p>
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Well no, that team has a couple hall of famers on it, along with some young promising players. The Blues have no where near that kind of talent playing for them, not at forward anyway. We'll see what Pietrangelo becomes in the years ahead.</p>
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Those same HOFs are shitting the bed in a shitty East.
Regardless, it's all aboot match-ups, and so far the Blues are up to task.</p>
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Well no, that team has a couple hall of famers on it, along with some young promising players. The Blues have no where near that kind of talent playing for them, not at forward anyway. We'll see what Pietrangelo becomes in the years ahead.</p>
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Those same HOFs are shitting the bed in a shitty East.
Regardless, it's all aboot match-ups, and so far the Blues are up to task.</p>
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They've also been ravaged with injuries and have made unusually questionable/bad roster decisions like keeping and re-signing an ancient Dan Cleary in favor of someone like Brunner and keeping a player like Nyquist in the AHL when he should've stayed up. The Hawks have lost to the Blues twice in two of the most flukiest ways I've ever seen a game go against the Hawks in quite some time in both games and all of a sudden the match ups are closer than they seem? No, this is a team that is scoring on pace that is due to regress, quite a bit, a team that for most of the season has been among the league's worst in shots on goal yet they have the highest scoring percentage. Those things are anomalies, again, just asking for regression. The only thing they may have on the Hawks is a better blue line, but it's not THAT much better if it is. They aren't comparable to the kind of team the Red Wings have put out.</p>
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Wings are 17th in the league in points, but will make the playoffs due to a weak schedule and being in the East. You can make the excuse that injuries have played their part, but as a complete team, Detroit is average and only getting worse.
I hear every day that the Blues are going to come back to earth, yet they don't.</p>
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Also, flukes are the way games are won and lost at times.
Bad bounces, a tip here, a body being the deflector. Kind of how game 1 was won in the SCF last year against Boston.
Call it "puck luck" if you like, but St. Louis has quite a bit of it, and they're also winning games 5-0.
As stated before by myself and many other posters, we'll see if they have it in the post season.</p>
I hear every day that the Blues are going to come back to earth, yet they don't.</p>
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Also, flukes are the way games are won and lost at times.
Bad bounces, a tip here, a body being the deflector. Kind of how game 1 was won in the SCF last year against Boston.
Call it "puck luck" if you like, but St. Louis has quite a bit of it, and they're also winning games 5-0.
As stated before by myself and many other posters, we'll see if they have it in the post season.</p>
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Wings are 17th in the league in points, but will make the playoffs due to a weak schedule and being in the East. You can make the excuse that injuries have played their part, but as a complete team, Detroit is average and only getting worse.
I hear every day that the Blues are going to come back to earth, yet they don't.</p>
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Also, flukes are the way games are won and lost at times.
Bad bounces, a tip here, a body being the deflector. Kind of how game 1 was won in the SCF last year against Boston.
Call it "puck luck" if you like, but St. Louis has quite a bit of it, and they're also winning games 5-0.
As stated before by myself and many other posters, we'll see if they have it in the post season.</p>
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Agreed with mainly all of your points haha.</p>
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As for the Wings, I think the injury excuse is more than valid. Yes they are not the dominant team of 4 years ago, but if healthy they would be ravaging the east. Howard has had just an awful season, littered with injuries, poor team defense, but if they get healthy and he is able to bounce back along with their defense they are certainly primed to go deep in the Eastern Conference playoffs. </p>
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I am still a fan of their defense, Kronwall, Dekyser, Smith, Quincey and Ericsonn make a nice core their. If they were to add any serious top 2 dman they would be excellent. Their forwards are not the greatest up and down the lineup, but everyone buys into the system Babcock has and it flat out works. Wish we still had them in our division, frickin sham that we are left in a division with the likes of Dallas, Nashville, Minnesota....</p>
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Wings are 17th in the league in points, but will make the playoffs due to a weak schedule and being in the East. You can make the excuse that injuries have played their part, but as a complete team, Detroit is average and only getting worse.
I hear every day that the Blues are going to come back to earth, yet they don't.</p>
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Also, flukes are the way games are won and lost at times.
Bad bounces, a tip here, a body being the deflector. Kind of how game 1 was won in the SCF last year against Boston.
Call it "puck luck" if you like, but St. Louis has quite a bit of it, and they're also winning games 5-0.
As stated before by myself and many other posters, we'll see if they have it in the post season.</p>
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Agreed with mainly all of your points haha.</p>
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As for the Wings, I think the injury excuse is more than valid. Yes they are not the dominant team of 4 years ago, but if healthy they would be ravaging the east. Howard has had just an awful season, littered with injuries, poor team defense, but if they get healthy and he is able to bounce back along with their defense they are certainly primed to go deep in the Eastern Conference playoffs. </p>
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I am still a fan of their defense, Kronwall, Dekyser, Smith, Quincey and Ericsonn make a nice core their. If they were to add any serious top 2 dman they would be excellent. Their forwards are not the greatest up and down the lineup, but everyone buys into the system Babcock has and it flat out works. Wish we still had them in our division, frickin sham that we are left in a division with the likes of Dallas, Nashville, Minnesota....</p>
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Their serious D-men retired in Rafalski/Lidstrom.
That's a pair that you can't replace, maybe ever. </p>
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Kronwall is good, plus they have a great top line, and it falls severely from there to average. Just right to make the playoffs in the East. Otherwise, they'd be probably a #10/11 in the West.</p>
That's a pair that you can't replace, maybe ever. </p>
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Kronwall is good, plus they have a great top line, and it falls severely from there to average. Just right to make the playoffs in the East. Otherwise, they'd be probably a #10/11 in the West.</p>
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Wings are 17th in the league in points, but will make the playoffs due to a weak schedule and being in the East. You can make the excuse that injuries have played their part, but as a complete team, Detroit is average and only getting worse.
I hear every day that the Blues are going to come back to earth, yet they don't.</p>
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Also, flukes are the way games are won and lost at times.
Bad bounces, a tip here, a body being the deflector. Kind of how game 1 was won in the SCF last year against Boston.
Call it "puck luck" if you like, but St. Louis has quite a bit of it, and they're also winning games 5-0.
As stated before by myself and many other posters, we'll see if they have it in the post season.</p>
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I've said before, sometimes that's just the way hockey is. Flukey. Sometimes it lasts, most times it doesn't. I'm not going to buy into it happening over a 7 games series against a puck possession team like the Hawks enough for the Blues to pose a serious threat. I mean,we're talking about three games against the Hawks, two of them being shoot out losses, that apparently make some people think the Blues are this entirely different team all of a sudden. They really aren't. </p>
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And seconded on the motion of wanting Detroit back in the division. Not just for the rivalry, but because the types of teams they build are good competition for the Hawks. I'll take them every day over the fucking Blues.</p>
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Wings are 17th in the league in points, but will make the playoffs due to a weak schedule and being in the East. You can make the excuse that injuries have played their part, but as a complete team, Detroit is average and only getting worse.
I hear every day that the Blues are going to come back to earth, yet they don't.</p>
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Also, flukes are the way games are won and lost at times.
Bad bounces, a tip here, a body being the deflector. Kind of how game 1 was won in the SCF last year against Boston.
Call it "puck luck" if you like, but St. Louis has quite a bit of it, and they're also winning games 5-0.
As stated before by myself and many other posters, we'll see if they have it in the post season.</p>
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I've said before, sometimes that's just the way hockey is. Flukey. Sometimes it lasts, most times it doesn't. I'm not going to buy into it happening over a 7 games series against a puck possession team like the Hawks enough for the Blues to pose a serious threat. I mean,we're talking about three games against the Hawks, two of them being shoot out losses, that apparently make some people think the Blues are this entirely different team all of a sudden. They really aren't. </p>
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And seconded on the motion of wanting Detroit back in the division. Not just for the rivalry, but because the types of teams they build are good competition for the Hawks. I'll take them every day over the fucking Blues.</p>
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Blues are still a better team than the Wings currently.</p>
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Even if that's true, I'd still take the Red Wings over the Blues if one of them had to swap conferences. Easily.</p>
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So far the records are speaking for themselves.
Perhaps the Wings will catch fire like they did last year and pull an upset over a "better" team like the Ducks and take an eventual SC champ to OT of game 7. I'll bet against it.</p>
Perhaps the Wings will catch fire like they did last year and pull an upset over a "better" team like the Ducks and take an eventual SC champ to OT of game 7. I'll bet against it.</p>
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I really don't care what the Blues' record is, because of the way they play against the Hawks I don't even care who wins those games during the regular season. I just don't want to see anyone getting stretchered out. The Hawks could drop every game against the Blues for all I care during the season, as long as no one's head is put into orbit. They're a dirty team. </p>
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The Red Wings are different. The Hawks have been built based off their types of team in the past, I'd rather have them face teams like that than teams like the Blues every single day of the season. Even if the Red Wings aren't as good as they were (it's gotta slow down at some point, you can't always have future Hall of Famers replacing current Hall of Famers, no matter how good your scouting is) it's that type of competition I'd like to see the Hawks face.</p>
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The Red Wings are different. The Hawks have been built based off their types of team in the past, I'd rather have them face teams like that than teams like the Blues every single day of the season. Even if the Red Wings aren't as good as they were (it's gotta slow down at some point, you can't always have future Hall of Famers replacing current Hall of Famers, no matter how good your scouting is) it's that type of competition I'd like to see the Hawks face.</p>
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I really don't care what the Blues' record is, because of the way they play against the Hawks I don't even care who wins those games during the regular season. I just don't want to see anyone getting stretchered out. The Hawks could drop every game against the Blues for all I care during the season, as long as no one's head is put into orbit. They're a dirty team. </p>
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The Red Wings are different. The Hawks have been built based off their types of team in the past, I'd rather have them face teams like that than teams like the Blues every single day of the season. Even if the Red Wings aren't as good as they were (it's gotta slow down at some point, you can't always have future Hall of Famers replacing current Hall of Famers, no matter how good your scouting is) it's that type of competition I'd like to see the Hawks face.</p>
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You should, because it can come into play for playoff positioning, especially with the new wacky wild card seedings.</p>
You don't need to be a dirty team to hurt someone, a la Hossa against Nashville with his 5 minute major during the 2010 playoff run.
Redwings aren't much different. Kronwall sent Havlat into deep space in the 2009 WCF.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Tg_6lu5Fc
Redwings also have Smith and Bertuzzi. </p>
Every team on any given night can be your worst nightmare.</p>
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I really don't care what the Blues' record is, because of the way they play against the Hawks I don't even care who wins those games during the regular season. I just don't want to see anyone getting stretchered out. The Hawks could drop every game against the Blues for all I care during the season, as long as no one's head is put into orbit. They're a dirty team. </p>
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The Red Wings are different. The Hawks have been built based off their types of team in the past, I'd rather have them face teams like that than teams like the Blues every single day of the season. Even if the Red Wings aren't as good as they were (it's gotta slow down at some point, you can't always have future Hall of Famers replacing current Hall of Famers, no matter how good your scouting is) it's that type of competition I'd like to see the Hawks face.</p>
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You should, because it can come into play for playoff positioning, especially with the new wacky wild card seedings.</p>
You don't need to be a dirty team to hurt someone, a la Hossa against Nashville with his 5 minute major during the 2010 playoff run.
Redwings aren't much different. Kronwall sent Havlat into deep space in the 2009 WCF.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Tg_6lu5Fc
Redwings also have Smith and Bertuzzi. </p>
Every team on any given night can be your worst nightmare.</p>
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You should, because it can come into play for playoff positioning, especially with the new wacky wild card seedings.</p>
You don't need to be a dirty team to hurt someone, a la Hossa against Nashville with his 5 minute major during the 2010 playoff run.
Redwings aren't much different. Kronwall sent Havlat into deep space in the 2009 WCF.
Redwings also have Smith and Bertuzzi. </p>
Every team on any given night can be your worst nightmare.</p>
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My god, remember how silent the UC was after that hit? You could hear a pin drop. </p>
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You should, because it can come into play for playoff positioning, especially with the new wacky wild card seedings.</p>
You don't need to be a dirty team to hurt someone, a la Hossa against Nashville with his 5 minute major during the 2010 playoff run.
Redwings aren't much different. Kronwall sent Havlat into deep space in the 2009 WCF.
Redwings also have Smith and Bertuzzi. </p>
Every team on any given night can be your worst nightmare.</p>
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My god, remember how silent the UC was after that hit? You could hear a pin drop. </p>
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You should, because it can come into play for playoff positioning, especially with the new wacky wild card seedings.</p>
You don't need to be a dirty team to hurt someone, a la Hossa against Nashville with his 5 minute major during the 2010 playoff run.
Redwings aren't much different. Kronwall sent Havlat into deep space in the 2009 WCF.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Tg_6lu5Fc
Redwings also have Smith and Bertuzzi. </p>
Every team on any given night can be your worst nightmare.</p>
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I don't care about playoff positioning in the NHL. Out of all the major sports, what seed you are means the least in the NHL. By far. That's not going to change this year either. And especially in the case with a team like the Hawks, I don't see any team with a really great chance of beating the Hawks in a 7 game series, no matter who has home ice. Would it be nice to have it? Yeah sure, but it won't be the tipping point in what could potentially be the downfall for the Hawks, so I really don't care one way or the other if they don't have it in a series. I'm not going to point to that as a big reason why they may or may not win any series. Very low on the list for me.</p>
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And yeah there are isolated incidents with every team when it comes to bad or dirty hits. But the fact remains, the Blues are a dirty team throughout. It's not been just the once or twice type of thing, it's been continuous, for years and years. We can't deny that, we've been watching it for years. That's just how they play, at least how they play the Hawks. **** that. Like I said, it's gotten to the point where I don't care about the outcome anymore because of it.</p>
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You should, because it can come into play for playoff positioning, especially with the new wacky wild card seedings.</p>
You don't need to be a dirty team to hurt someone, a la Hossa against Nashville with his 5 minute major during the 2010 playoff run.
Redwings aren't much different. Kronwall sent Havlat into deep space in the 2009 WCF.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Tg_6lu5Fc
Redwings also have Smith and Bertuzzi. </p>
Every team on any given night can be your worst nightmare.</p>
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I don't care about playoff positioning in the NHL. Out of all the major sports, what seed you are means the least in the NHL. By far. That's not going to change this year either. And especially in the case with a team like the Hawks, I don't see any team with a really great chance of beating the Hawks in a 7 game series, no matter who has home ice. Would it be nice to have it? Yeah sure, but it won't be the tipping point in what could potentially be the downfall for the Hawks, so I really don't care one way or the other if they don't have it in a series. I'm not going to point to that as a big reason why they may or may not win any series. Very low on the list for me.</p>
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And yeah there are isolated incidents with every team when it comes to bad or dirty hits. But the fact remains, the Blues are a dirty team throughout. It's not been just the once or twice type of thing, it's been continuous, for years and years. We can't deny that, we've been watching it for years. That's just how they play, at least how they play the Hawks. **** that. Like I said, it's gotten to the point where I don't care about the outcome anymore because of it.</p>
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Man the Canucks got smacked last night by the Ducks 9-1.</p>
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Sestito has 47 PIMs in 8:36 of ice time in the last 2 games.</p>
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Sestito has 47 PIMs in 8:36 of ice time in the last 2 games.</p>
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Jimmy Howard was taken out of the game with diarrhea.</p>
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Look at this tweet from Luongo... LMAO:</p>
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